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Hi I am trying to get the birth cert of my Grandfather ++++ he was born in 1690
Nicholas Mursell, Newport
I have tried to get one on the Gov.co.uk sight but they only go back as far as the 1800.
Would anyone know if Birth Certs were around in the 1600 please
Many Thanks
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Birth certificates didn't come into being until 1837. Most people registered the births of their children from 1837 on but a few didn't bother until it became compulsory in (I think) 1875.
Before 1837 you will need to check for a baptism in parish records. Some areas have very full parish records, others are quite patchy. Have you tried www.familysearch.org? Quite a lot of parish records are digitised on there.
There are several places called Newport in the UK. Do you know which one you are looking for?
EDIT There are a lot of trees on GR that have Nicholas Mursell from Newport, Isle of Wight. Click on Search and then Search Member Trees. Then you can enter the name and date of Nicholas Mursell's birth and get a list of the trees that include him. You can then contact some of them and ask what information they have.
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Thank you so much for your reply will give it ago x
Newport isle of wight
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a tree on family search has this
Birth
1690
Carisbrooke, Isle of Wight, England
Death
10 December 1769
Newport, Isle of Wight, England
MARRIAGES (3)
Spouse
Susanna /Twelvetree/
Marriage
1 December 1717
St Marys, Carisbrooke, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England
1
Spouse
Martha /Emberley/
Marriage
17 October 1729
Newport, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England
1
Spouse
Elizabeth /Howard/
Marriage
16 September 1716
St John, Northwood, Isle of Wight
1
SOURCES (1)
1881 England Census www.ancestry.com :
NOTES (1)
1st wife Elizabeth Howard Married 16/9/1716 Northwood IOW St John 2nd
wife Susannah Twelvetree 1/12/1717 Carisbrooke IOW St Marys shown as M
usle 3rd wife Martha Emberly Marriage 7/10/1729 Newport IOW. Between 1
742 - 1746 Crooked Billet,1748 to 1753, 1766 & 1769 Nicholas licensee
of The Trooper. 1770 to 1777 Martha licensee of Valiant Trooper & Whit
e Trooper
Source: Barry Mursell
CITING THIS RECORD
children
nicholas 1729, margaret 1719, johanna 1726, patience 1718
there are no parents entered for him
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Free to use site - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:3MHD-ZW3
Has a submitted family tree, but starts with Nicholas b 1690 Carisbrooke Isle of Wight, died 1769 Newport IofW. Lists 3 marriages for him and children of the second marriage.
A tree on ancestry has his Father's name as John but nothing else
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Mursell IOW
23 October 2012
First Generation
1.
Nicholas Mursell
was born in 1690 in Newport, Isle of Wight.
In 1742 he was in Newport, Isle of Wight. Crooked
Billet
He died on 10 Dec 1769 at the age of 79 in Newport, Isle of Wight. Nicholas was an Army - Capt Gibbons Foot
Company left 1716. 1st wife Elizabeth Howard
Married 16/9/1716 Northwood IOW St John
2nd wife Susannah Bolton 1/12/1717 Carisbrooke IOW St Marys shown as Musle
3rd wife Martha Emberly Marriage 7/10/1729 Newport IOW.
Between 1742 - 1746 Crooked Billet,1748 to 1753, 1766 & 1769 Nicholas licensee of The Trooper. 1770 to 1777 Martha
licensee of Valiant Trooper & White Trooper
Nicholas Mursell and Elizabeth Howard were married on 16 Sep 1716 in Northwood, Isle of Wight. St John's Church
Elizabeth Howard
was born in 1690 in Newport, Isle of Wight.
She died in 1717 at the age of 27 in Newport, Isle of
Wight. 1st wife
Married
Nicholas Mursell and Susannah Bolton were married on 1 Dec 1717 in Carisbrooke, Isle of Wight. St Mary's Church
Susannah Bolton
was born in 1695. She died in 1729 at the age of 34. 2nd wife 1/12/1717 Married Carisbrooke IOW St
Marys
Nicholas Mursell and Susannah Bolton had the following children:
2
i.
Patience Mursell
was born in 1718 in Newport, Isle of Wight.
She was baptized on 17 Sep 1718 in
Newport, Isle of Wight. St Thomas Newport IOW
She died in Jun 1719 at the age of 1 in Newport,
Isle of Wight.
Patience was buried on 13 Jun 1719 in Newport, Isle of Wight. Spelt Musle in parish
register
3
ii.
Margarett Mursell
was born in 1719 in Newport, Isle of Wight.
She was christened on 17 Feb 1719
in Newport, Isle of Wight. St Thomas Newport IOW Spelt Mussell in Parish register
4
iii.
Johanna Mursell
was born in 1726 in Newport, Isle of Wight.
She was christened on 12 Apr 1726 in
Newport, Isle of Wight. St Thomas Newport IOW
She died in Jun 1726 at the age of 0 in Church
Litten, Newport.
Johanna was buried on 14 Jun 1726 in Newport, Isle of Wight. Shown in records as
Mussel
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iv.
Nicholas Mursell
, born 3 Mar 1729, Carisbrooke, Isle of Wight
; married Hannah Smith, 8 Feb 1749,
Carisbrooke, Isle of Wight
; died Dec 1814, Cowes, Isle of Wight
.
Nicholas Mursell and Martha Emberly were married on 7 Oct 1729 in Newport, Isle of Wight. St Thomas' Church
Martha Emberly
was born in 1700 in Isle of Wight.
She died on 25 Aug 1785 at the age of 85 in Newport, Isle of
Wight.
She was a Licencee in Newport, Isle of Wight. 1770 - 1777 White Trooper, Valient Trooper 3rd wife Marriage
7/10/1729 Newport IOW St Thomas.
Had 8 children
Nicholas Mursell and Martha Emberly had the following children:
+6
i.
James Mursell
, born 1733, Newport, Isle of Wight
; married Elizabeth Morey, 14 Apr 1758,
Whippingham, Isle of Wight
.
+7
ii.
John Mussell
, born 1738, Newport, Isle of Wight
; married Molly Cook, 23 Dec 1768, Newport, Isle
of Wight
; married Mary Butterworth, 11 Mar 1760, Newport, Isle of Wight
; died Aug 1779,
Newport, Isle of Wight
.
+8
iii.
Mary Mursell
, born 1741; married John Cawse, 23 Apr 1765, Newport, Isle of Wight
.
9
iv.
Joseph Mussell
was born in 1741 in Newport, Isle of Wight. He was christened on 27 Jan 1741.
He
died on 4 Mar 1742 at the age of 1 in Newport, Isle of Wight. Joseph was buried on 11 Mar 1742.
10
v.
Sarah Mussell
was born in 1743 in Newport, Isle of Wight. She was christened on 20 Jul 1743.
She
1
full history of the family here
Mursell IOW - Wootton Bridge Historical
woottonbridgeiow.org.uk/genealogy/mursell.pdf
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Maddie thank you so very much for all this information. was hoping to find
Nicholas Mursell's parents. x
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You do have to take into consideration that Parish Registers, if they haven't been lost, could have experienced all sorts of conditions.
Damp & mold, mice, insect infestation etc etc! That makes some of the entries totally illegible. Not all PR are available on line. Despite being encouraged to deposit them in an archive, some churches prefer to look after them themselves.
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