Genealogy Chat

Patchem- I think Brian was referring to the birth date given on the death record posted by Malyon- which is unlikely to be the correct Florence as she was married to a Walter J Bowyer.

Austin:

'Florence and Percy share the same day and month birthdays (27th May) in 1897 and 1899,'

But I think this is a different Florence, related to Quintons:
Florence Gertrude Reynolds
BIRTH: 27 May 1899
DEATH: Nov 2000 - Gipping and Hartismere, Suffolk, England

Added:
Sorry. has that birth information come from the wrong record, not her actual birth date?

If you have the correct Florence Gertrude Cole- she might be mentioned in her mother's Will.

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar
Bassett or Beard Louisa of 3 Lairdet Street New Cross Kent, (wife of Alfred Walter Bassett) died 29 August 1933 at 48 Vanburgh Hill Greenwich Kent Probate London 12 September to Sidney Frank Fry clerk. Effects £140

Do you know Florence exact date of birth?
I note Florence sister, Bertha went to South Africa and Australia- could Florence have died visiting her?

The 1987 Florence Bowyer death posted by Malyon is likely to refer to this lady:

1939
Bowyer Household (5 People) 11 Jubilee Place , Slough M.B., Buckinghamshire, England

Walter J Bowyer 27 Jul 1895 Male G W R Callman Married
Florence Bowyer 27 May 1899 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Sorry, this record is officially closed.
Sorry, this record is officially closed.
Sorry, this record is officially closed.

If she died from June quarter 1969 onwards you can search for death with exact date of birth and 'Florence Gertrude' - worth considering?

Well maybe they parted some time after the second child was born

It used to be a myth that if you had separated and not seen each other or knew of whereabouts that after 7 years the person was assumed dead

Some folks remarried on that premise

So she isn't at home in 1939 and maybe they thought of her as deceased without any proof she was

If she had left and lived with someone else using their name then finding her death will be almost impossible

Thanks to all for the input.
Coincidence that Florence and Percy share the same day and month birthdays (27th May) in 1897 and 1899, although my brother and wife do ditto.
So, if the above records relate to the correct person, Florence was alive in 1939, dead in 1942 and died again in 1987.

so Florence died before 1942 unless she did not die but left home

Saw below...

Chris :)

21 March 1942 - Essex Newsman - Chelmsford, Essex, England

WITHAM
The Wedding took place at Braintree on Monday of Mr. Percy Adams, youngest son of Mr. and Mrs. P. Adams, of Bridge Street, with Miss Pearl Bowyer, youngest daughter of Mr. Percy Bowyer and the late Mrs. Florence Bowyer, of Guithavon Street.

rosie had five children perhaps you could find one might know when Florence died

Have posted Rosie details

:-)

pearl and rosie were both married in Braintree Essex

rosie was married in 1935 so might not be living at home in 1939

Household (4 People)
16 Easton Road , Witham U.D., Essex, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Rose D Willsher 29 Jun 1917 Unpaid Domestic Dutie
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Arthur E Brice 08 Apr 1886 Foreman (Heavy Worker
Ref: RG101/1553C/012/36 Letter Code: DCQD
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Also opened is Ernest willsher born 1905 occ stoker and bricklayer
And Ernest r born 1938

Not transcribed

Births Mar 1936
Willsher Frederick J Bowyer Lexden 4a 1270
Births Jun 1938
Willsher Ernest R Bowyer Braintree 4a 1386

Several more children born after 1939 details on freebmd

Ok so Rosie married


Name: Rosie D Bowyer
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1935
Registration district: Braintree
Inferred County: Essex
Spouse: Ernest Willsher
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 2450

could Florence have married again

He say he is married not widowed
1939 register
Bower Household (4 People)
42b Newland Street , Witham U.D., Essex, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Pearl Adams (Bowyer) 18 Jan 1921 Grocery Confectionery General Shop Assistant
Percy R M Bower 27 May 1897 Driller Malts Spindle
Rose Collins 27 Sep 1877 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Christopher T A Walker 13 Oct 1871 Proprietor Grocery & Confectionery Qvan
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No closed records so she and Rosie aren't with him

this is husband's death

Deaths Mar 1976   (>99%)

BOWYER
 PERCY REGINALD M
 27MY1897
 BRAINTREE
 9
1729

could be her without middlename

Florence Bowyer
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
Name
Florence Bowyer
Event Type
Death Registration
Registration Quarter
Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year
1987
Registration District
Windsor & Maidenhead
County
Berkshire
Event Place
Windsor & Maidenhead, Berkshire, England
Birth Date (available after June quarter 1969)
27 May 1899
Volume
19
Page
728

Looking on behalf of a friend.
Florence Gertrude Cole married Percy Reginald Martin Bowyer in Greenwich in 1916.
I believe she was born in Greenwich 1d 1059 Jun qtr. 1899. and had two children, Rosie (1917) and Pearl, friend's mum, (1921), both in Coventry.

I can't find a record of her after that. There is a death in 1957 in Sturminster district, but having sent for the certificate that is not her.
Any suggestions welcome. please.