Profile | Posted by | Options | Post Date |
|
Ruth
|
Report
|
18 Oct 2017 10:36 |
I am trying to find out who John Prior married as from tree share I was given to believe it was a Rhoda Potter of feering Essex. John Prior born 1812 Copford Essex. I cant find any Rhoda Potter marriage to John though. First child born in 1835. I can only find 1 census record with Rhoda on and no records going back to her family. any help appreciated .
|
|
Kense
|
Report
|
18 Oct 2017 10:52 |
Ancestry has a tree with him marrying Rhoda Wiseman at Feering on 18 Oct 1832.
|
|
Kense
|
Report
|
18 Oct 2017 11:01 |
You would be able to confirm that with a visit to the Essex Record Office or subscribing to the SEAX site where you would be able to view the Feering marriages and download any you were interested in.
SEAX subscription is £10 for 24 hours or £20 for a week. If you have a lot of Essex ancestors in your tree it can be worth it.
EDIT Link to SEAX http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/Default.aspx?SearchDocs=1&intSearchType=12
|
|
Ruth
|
Report
|
18 Oct 2017 11:09 |
Thank you, that will probably explain why I cant find anything on her and her family. I have never heard of the SEAX site so I have learnt something today.
|
|
Kense
|
Report
|
18 Oct 2017 11:13 |
The Ancestry tree (Merriday Family Tree) has census entries for Rhoda in 1841 at Layer Breton, and 1851, 1871 & 1881 all at Birch in Essex.
There are several children: John, Jane Mary Ann, William, Eliza, James and Elizabeth.
|
|
Chris Ho :)
|
Report
|
18 Oct 2017 13:33 |
Not sure on below...(second one matches date from Ken above)
Chris :)
County Essex Place Feering Church name All Saints Register type Parish Register Register entry number 66 Marriage date 3 Oct 1827 Groom forename John Groom surname POTTER Groom condition Bachelor Groom abode Feering Bride forename Maria Bride surname WISEMAN Bride condition Spinster Bride abode Little Tey Witness Hannah CHAPMAN Witness Jacob LAMBERT Register note License
County Essex Place Feering Church name All Saints Register type Parish Register Register entry number 101 Marriage date 18 Oct 1832 Groom forename John Groom surname ROYCE Groom condition Bachelor Groom abode Birch Bride forename Rhoda Bride surname WISEMAN Bride condition Spinster Bride abode Feering Witness Henry ADAM Witness Amelia ROYCE Register note With consent
https://www.freereg.org.uk/
(from above link)
|
|
Ruth
|
Report
|
18 Oct 2017 14:29 |
Lost now, so John Prior never married Rhoda Wiseman either. In the census John has Rhoda as wife so that much I know
|
|
malyon
|
Report
|
18 Oct 2017 14:32 |
COPY PRINT SOURCE BOX SHARE Attach to Family Tree
Jane Prior England and Wales Census, 1851 Name Jane Prior Event Type Census Event Date 1851 Event Place Birch, Essex, England Registration District Lexden Gender Female Age 14 Marital Status Unmarried Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Birth Year (Estimated) 1837 Birthplace Layer Breton, Essex Page Number 16 Registration Number HO107 Piece/Folio 1782 / 404 Affiliate Record Type Household Household Role Sex Age Birthplace John Prior Head M 39 Copford, Essex Rhoda Prior Wife F 39 Feering, Essex John Prior Son M 16 Layer Marney, Essex Jane Prior Daughter F 14 Layer Breton, Essex Mary Ann Prior Daughter F 12 Layer Breton, Essex William Prior Son M 10 Layer Breton, Essex Eliza Prior Daughter F 6 Layer Breton, Essex James Prior Son M 1 Birch, Essex
|
|
alviegal
|
Report
|
18 Oct 2017 14:35 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Near Claypit Farm, Birch, Lexden, Essex, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Prior Head Married Male 39 1812 Ag Lab Copford, Essex, England Transcription Rhoda Prior Wife Married Female 39 1812 Ag Lab Wife Feering, Essex, England Transcription John Prior Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Ag Lab Layer Marney, Essex, England Transcription Jane Prior Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1837 - Layer Breton, Essex, England Transcription Mary Ann Prior Daughter - Female 12 1839 Scholar Layer Breton, Essex, England Transcription William Prior Son - Male 10 1841 Ag Lab Layer Breton, Essex, England Transcription Eliza Prior Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Layer Breton, Essex, England Transcription James Prior Son - Male 1 1850 - Birch, Essex, England
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Near Beckingham Hall, North Mulberry Green, Copford, Lexden, Essex, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Prior Head Married Male 48 1813 Agricultural Labourer Birch, Essex, England Transcription Rhona Prior Wife Married Female 48 1813 - Feering, Essex, England Transcription James Prior Son - Male 11 1850 Agricultural Labourer Birch, Essex, England Transcription Elizabeth Prior Daughter - Female 8 1853 Scholar Birch, Essex, England
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Maldon Road, Birch, Lexden, Essex, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Prior Head - Male 60 1811 - Essex, England Transcription Rhoda Prior Wife - Female 60 1811 - Essex, England
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Near White Horse, Birch, Lexden, Essex, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Prior Head Married Male 70 1811 Ag Lab Copford, Essex, England Transcription Rhoda Prior Wife Married Female 70 1811 - Feering, Essex, England
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Cottage, Heckford Bridge, Birch, Lexden, Essex, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Prior Head Married Male 79 1812 - Essex, England Transcription Rosla Prior Wife Married Female 69 1822 -Feering Essex, England
National Burial Index for England & Wales Transcription
Learn more Print transcription First name(s) John Last name Prior Age 87 Birth year 1812 Death year 1899 Burial year 1899 Burial date 17 Sep 1899 Church St Peter Denomination Anglican Place Birch County Essex
National Burial Index for England & Wales Transcription
Learn more Print transcription First name(s) Rhoda Last name Prior Age 81 Birth year 1811 Death year 1892 Burial year 1892 Burial date 29 Dec 1892 Church St Peter Denomination Anglican Place Birch County Essex
|
|
Kense
|
Report
|
18 Oct 2017 14:39 |
It could simply be that the vicar made a mistake when he filled in the marriage record. Probably the couple could not read so they would not have noticed the mistake.
There were several Royces in Feering The Rhoda Prior in the censuses was definitely from Feering.
|
|
KathleenBell
|
Report
|
18 Oct 2017 14:43 |
This is the birth of son William who is on the 1851 census which gives mother's maiden name Wiseman:-
PRIOR, WILLIAM WISEMAN GRO Reference: 1841 S Quarter in LEXDEN & WINSTREE UNION Volume 12 Page 130
EDIT :- also son James gives same mother's maiden name:-
PRIOR, JAMES WISEMAN GRO Reference: 1849 J Quarter in LEXDEN AND WINSTREE UNION Volume 12 Page 61
Other children from the 1851 census also have births with Wiseman as mother's maiden name.
Kath. x
|
|
Ruth
|
Report
|
18 Oct 2017 14:46 |
Lost now, so John Prior never married Rhoda Wiseman either. In the census John has Rhoda as wife so that much I know
|
|
malyon
|
Report
|
18 Oct 2017 14:47 |
Rhoda Wiseman England Births and Christenings Name Rhoda Wiseman Gender Female Christening Date 24 Nov 1811 Christening Date (Original) 24 NOV 1811 Christening Place INDEPENDENT,GREAT COGGESHALL,ESSEX,ENGLAND Birth Date 07 Oct 1811 Father's Name William Wiseman Mother's Name Elizabeth
|
|
alviegal
|
Report
|
18 Oct 2017 14:51 |
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: PRIOR, MARY ANN WISEMAN GRO Reference: 1838 D Quarter in LEXDEN & WINSTREE UNION, ESSEX Volume 12 Page 117
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: PRIOR, ELIZA WISEMAN Order GRO Reference: 1845 S Quarter in LEXDEN AND WINSTREE UNION Volume 12 Page 133
Results: Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: PRIOR, ELIZABETH ANN WISEMAN Order GRO Reference: 1852 J Quarter in LEXDEN AND WINSTREE UNION Volume 04A Page 242
|
|
alviegal
|
Report
|
18 Oct 2017 15:04 |
The baptism of Rhoda Wiseman found by malyon above states that her mother, Elizabeth was from Feering.
|
|
alviegal
|
Report
|
18 Oct 2017 15:21 |
These are possibly sisters of Rhoda.
England & Wales Non-conformist births and baptisms Transcription
Learn more Print transcription View image First name(s) Rose Last name Wiseman Birth year 1821 Birth date 10 Jun 1821 Baptism year 1821 Baptism date 19 Aug 1821 Place Kelvedon Denomination Independent Father's first name(s) William Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth County Essex
First name(s) Ruth Last name Wiseman Birth year 1825 Birth date 24 Jan 1825 Baptism year 1825 Baptism date 13 Mar 1825 Place Kelvedon Denomination Independent Father's first name(s) William Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth County Essex
which would mean this is Elizabeth.
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Langley Green, Feering, Witham, Essex, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place James Godfrey Male 22 1819 Essex, England Transcription Jane Godfrey Female 22 1819 Essex, England Transcription Elizabeth Godfrey Female 2 1839 Essex, England Transcription James Godfrey Male 0 1841 Essex, England Transcription >>Elizabeth Wiseman Female 61 1780 Essex, England Transcription >>Ruth Wiseman Female 14 1827 Essex, England
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Langley Farm, Feering, Witham, Essex, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Rootkin Head Married Male 26 1825 Ag Lab Coggeshall, Essex, England Transcription >>Rose Rootkin Wife Married Female 30 1821 - Feering, Essex, England Transcription Emily Rootkin Daughter - Female 4 1847 - Coggeshall, Essex, England Transcription >>Elizabeth Wiseman Mother Widow Female 70 1781 Pauper Feering, Essex, England
|
|
alviegal
|
Report
|
18 Oct 2017 15:37 |
Other possible siblings of Rhoda.
First name(s) Eliza Last name Wiseman Gender Female Birth year 1816 Birth place Kelvedon, Essex, England Baptism year - Residence Essex, England Place - County Essex Country England Father's first name(s) William Father's last name Wiseman Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
First name(s) Harriet Last name Wiseman Gender Female Birth year 1814 Birth place Kelvedon, Essex, England Baptism year - Residence Essex, England Place - County Essex Country England Father's first name(s) William Father's last name Wiseman Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
First name(s) Jane Last name Wiseman Gender Female Birth year 1818 Birth place Kelvedon, Essex, England Baptism year - Residence Essex, England Place - County Essex Country England Father's first name(s) William Father's last name Wiseman Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
First name(s) Mariah Last name Wiseman Birth year 1806 Birth date 10 Oct 1806 Baptism year 1806 Baptism date 09 Nov 1806 Place Coggeshall Denomination Independent Father's first name(s) William Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth County Essex
First name(s) Mark Last name Wiseman Birth year 1809 Birth date 01 Jan 1809 Baptism year 1809 Baptism date 26 Feb 1809 Place Coggeshall Denomination Independent Father's first name(s) William Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth County Essex
First name(s) Townsend Last name Wiseman Birth year 1823 Birth date 24 Jul 1823 Baptism year 1823 Baptism date 31 Aug 1823 Place Kelvedon Denomination Independent Father's first name(s) William Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth County Essex
First name(s) James Last name Wiseman Gender Male Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1827 Baptism date 02 Sep 1827 Residence Burnham, Essex, England Place Burnham County Essex Country England Father's first name(s) William Father's last name Wiseman Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
|
|
Ruth
|
Report
|
18 Oct 2017 16:59 |
Thank you so much for your help today, I can now alter my family tree with confidence that it is correct info I am putting on there. I so appreciate the help you have all given me especially as I had spent 2 days trying to find out about Rhoda Potter and not Rhoda Wiseman :-)
|
|
Kense
|
Report
|
19 Oct 2017 15:52 |
I have had a look at the image for the 18/10/1832 marriage and can confirm that Royce was a mistranscription. The vicar has spelt the surname as Proyer so that the P and r together look like R, and the 'er' at the end can be seen as 'ce'.
That also applies to the witness Amelia Prior.
Edit. I should have added that the bride, groom and witnesses did not sign, they just marked, the names having been written in by the vicar.
|
|
Chris Ho :)
|
Report
|
19 Oct 2017 16:20 |
(nice one Ken, had a feeling you would have a check, lol)
Chris :)
|