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I am looking to locate a John William Devany and parents in the census records.

I have birth cert shows John William b 11 July 1869 in Bradford Yorkshire, his parents are listed as James Devany and Ann Waters. I cant locate a marriage for the couple so unsure where they married, James occupation is given as Excavator.

I cant see any family in 1871 or 1881 census, by 1891 John William Devany was living in Ashton in Makerfield Lancashire, he married into the family he is listed living with. I have all the information going onwards for him, only looking for his parents or siblings.

Thank you

Edited sorry wrong family

Added for our reference.


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
159 South View Bryn Road Bryn Near Wigan, Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
John William Devany Head Married Male Coal Miner Hewer 41 1870 Bradford Yorkshire
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Annie Devany Wife Married Female - 39 1872 Durham Trimdon Nt of England
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Joseph Devany Son Single Male Coal Miners Filler 19 1892 Ashton in Makerfield Lancs
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Henrietta Devany Daughter Single Female Colliery Screen Labourer 18 1893 Ashton in Makerfield Lancs
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John Devany Son Single Male Colliery Haulier Below Ground 17 1894 Ashton in Makerfield Lancs
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Thomas Henry Devany Son Single Male School 15 1896 Ashton in Makerfield Lancs
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Jane Devany Daughter - Female - 12 1899 Ashton in Makerfield Lancs
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Samuel Devany Son - Male - 10 1901 Ashton in Makerfield Lancs
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Edward Devany Son - Male - 8 1903 Ashton in Makerfield Lancs
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Annie Devany Daughter - Female - 6 1905 Ashton in Makerfield Lancs
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Katie Devany Daughter - Female - 4 1907 Ashton in Makerfield Lancs
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Fred Devany Son - Male - 1 1910 Ashton in Makerfield Lancs
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Mary Ellen Devany Daughter - Female - 1 1910 Ashton in Makerfield Lancs



and their marriage.


Marriage: 17 Jan 1891 St Mary the Virgin, Leigh, Lancashire, England
John William Devaney - 21, Collier, Bachelor, Westleigh
Annie Leighton - 19, Spinster, Westleigh
Groom's Father: James Devaney, (Deceased), Labourer
Bride's Father: Joseph Leighton, Collier
Witness: John Isherwood; Priscilla Isherwood, (X)
Married by Banns by: J. H. Stanning Vicar
Register: Marriages 1887 - 1901, Page 64, Entry 127
Source: LDS Film 1885653

wonder if this is the death of james Devaney

Deaths Jun 1878   (>99%)

DEVANEY
 James
 37
 Ashton
 8d
320

Stewart Street, Heaton Norris, Stockport, Cheshire, England.

1871,

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Devaney Head - Male 49 1822 - Ireland Transcription
Ann Devaney Wife - Female 47 1824 - Ireland Transcription
James Devaney Son - Male 15 1856 - Staffordshire, England Transcription
Mark McGarry Boarder - Male 26 1845 - Ireland Transcription
Jane McGarry Boarder's Wife - Female 20 1851 - Ireland Transcription
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wife is Mary though.


Cherry Tree, Livesey, Blackburn, Lancashire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Devaney Head - Male 46 1825 - Ireland Transcription
Mary Devaney Wife - Female 36 1835 - Ireland Transcription
Margaret Devaney Daughter - Female 16 1855 - Lancashire, England Transcription
John Devaney Son - Male 14 1857 - Lancashire, England Transcription
Patrick Devaney Son - Male 12 1859 - Lancashire, England Transcription
Mary Devaney Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Lancashire, England Transcription
Ann Devaney Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Lancashire, England Transcription
Michael Devaney Son - Male 5 1866 - Lancashire, England Transcription
James Devaney Son - Male 2 1869 - Lancashire, England Transcription
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Baptism: 23 Jun 1861 Cathedral Church of St John the Evangelist, Salford, Lancashire, England
Jacobus Francis Devany - filius Jacobi Devany & Annae (formerly Waters)
Born: 13 Jun 1861
Godparents: Eduardus Campbell; Brigitta Rathian
Baptised by: Richardus Brindle M. C.
Source: Original Register at LRO Preston

Did his mother re-marry


Marriages Sep 1880 (>99%)

Davany Ann Leigh 8c 276
Smith Peter Leigh 8c 276


John William Ding ?

Age:11

Estimated birth year:abt 1870

Relationship to Head:Son

Father:Peter Smith

Mother:Ann Smith

Where born:Bradford, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish:Westleigh

County/Island:Lancashire


Street address:Hampsons Cottage

Occupation:Scholar

Registration district:Leigh

ED, institution, or vessel:4

Piece:3805
Folio:123
Page Number:35

Household Members:

Peter Smith 39
Ann Smith 37
James Francis Ding ? 19 <<on the 1881 too
John William Ding ? 11
Henry Ding ? 7
Thomas Ding ? 5
Margaret Ann Ding ? 3

Just checked Margaret' birth and it looks like the above is correct

DAVEHNY, MARGARET ANN MMN WATERS
GRO Reference: 1878 M Quarter in BOLTON Volume 08C Page 339

And it looks like the mother married again


Marriages Jun 1885

MOSS George Andrew Leigh 8c 262
Smith Ann Leigh 8c 262
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George Andrew Moss

Marriage Age:38

Event Type:Marriage

Birth Year:abt 1847

Marriage Date:2 May 1885

Marriage Place:Leigh, St Mary, Lancashire, England

Parish as it Appears:Leigh

Father:Andrew Moss

Spouse:Ann Smith her father: James Water - farmer

Reference Number:
GB127.L211/1/4/14



1891 Census
Ann Moss

Age:52

Relationship:Wife

Birth Year:1839

Spouse:George A Moss

Child:Henry Devany

Birth Place:Sligo, Ireland

Civil Parish:Westleigh

Ecclesiastical parish:St Mary

Residence Place:Leigh, Westleigh, Lancashire, England

Registration district:Leigh

Sub registration district:Westleigh

ED, Institution or Vessel:4
Piece:3086
Folio:97

Household Members:

George A Moss 44
Ann Moss 52
Henry Devany 17
Thomas Devany 15
Margaret A Devany 14

Although the birth place does not match Bradford for John William, this looks like the family in 1871. The birth of daughter Mary Ellen matches with her mothers maiden name

DEVANNY, MARY ELLEN MMN WATERS
GRO Reference: 1864 S Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 112



John W Devaney

Age:2

Estimated birth year:abt 1869

Relation:Son

Father's name:John Devaney

Mother's name:Ann Devaney

Gender:Male

Where born:Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish:Manchester

Ecclesiastical parish:St Michael

Town:Manchester

County/Island:Lancashire

Registration district:Manchester

Sub-registration district:St George

ED, institution, or vessel:26
Household schedule number:338
Piece:4052
Folio:64
Page Number:54

Household Members:


John Devaney 48 Ireland
Ann Devaney 32 Ireland
James F Devaney 9
Mary E Devaney 6 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<see above
John W Devaney 2

Maureen...Does BC specifically say Bradford " Yorkshire " on it.?
There is what was once a small mining community village name of Bradford in East Manchester.and also.known now as Eastlands.....

the GRO gives registration district Bradford Yorkshire mmn Waters

I wondered about Bradford Manchester too until I found this

the GRO gives registration district Bradford Yorkshire mmn Waters

I wondered about Bradford Manchester too until I found this

Thank you all for your replies.

I will have to go through the records you find.

The Birth Cert for JOHN WILLIAM DEVANY shows he was born 11th July 1869,

Superintendent Registrars District Bradford Yorkshire

Registrars District Bowling

Father is JAMES DEVANY and mother ANN DEVANY formerly Waters, fathers occupation Excavator.

I don't know anything else about John William Devany's family only from his marriage onwards, John William Devany in census records shows born Bradford Yorshire, this was the only John William I could trace in birth records therefore obtained the birth cert.

I was thinking with the name Devany it may have been misspelt but still cant find anything in either census or marriage for a James Devany and Ann Waters.

The above census records show the father as JOHN not James Devany

Thanks for all the information .

The 1881 census look like the right family once you look closely at the surname for Devany.

I see the family of George A Moss and wife Ann with the 3 Devany children in 1891 Westleigh but cant find any of them in 1901 or 1911 can someone please have a look.

Thank you