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Thank you so much this is an amazing find I will have to have a good look at all your information My gran came from Sutton,,New Street is were a church was were I went to once near were my late mums sister lived you have been busy bless you for this Argyll Gran & MargaretM Barbara

James H married Eunice Houghton in 1946.

They had a daughter, born 1954 in St Helens.

I don't see deaths of either James or Eunice.

Margaret A died aged 3:

Margaret A Briers
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Margaret A Briers
Death Age: 3
Birth Date: abt 1925
Registration Date: Sep 1928
Registration district: Prescot
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 620

Allan married Elsie Bromilow in 1955, and died in 1984:

Allan Briers
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Allan Briers
Death Age: 55
Birth Date: 6 Jun 1929
Registration Date: Aug 1984
Registration district: St Helens
Inferred County: Merseyside
Volume: 37
Page: 132

He and Elsie had two children, both born in St Helens, 1956 and 1960 - details on FreeBMD.

Maurice married Patricia Hale in 1959, and died 1980:

Maurice Briers
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Name: Maurice Briers
Death Date: 25 Jan 1980
Death Place: Helens
Probate Date: 28 Apr 1980
Registry: Liverpool

Colin has/had several siblings, all born in Prescot:

James H, 1923
Margaret A, 1925
Allan, 1929
Maurice, 1933

So it looks as if the Daniel Houlton tree is wrong - but the photo of Henry (Colin's father) may still be the correct one.

From the photo, it appears he was a violin maker.

Parents' marriage:

Marriages Mar 1890 (>99%)
Briers Ann Prescot 8b 819
Briers Henry Prescot 8b 819

BRIERS, HENRY mms BRIERS
GRO Reference: 1901 M Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 782


BRIERS, ETHEL mms BRIERS
GRO Reference: 1897 S Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 795

I think the Ancestry tree may have the wrong parents for Henry (born 1901).


This family has both a Henry 1901, and a daughter Ethel:

Ethel Briers
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Ethel Briers
Age in 1911: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: St Helens, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: St Helens
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 199 New Street Sutton
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: School
Registration district: Prescot
Registration District Number: 456
Sub-registration district: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 48
Piece: 22802
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Briers 41
Ann Briers 42
Ellen Briers 19
Arthur Briers 17
Ethel Briers 13 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Henry Briers 10 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Emily Briers 7
Frank Briers 4
Edith Briers 2


Ann Briers
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Ann Briers
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: Henry Briers
Mother: Ann Briers
Birth Place: St Helens, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: St Helen
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: St Helen
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3524
Folio: 103
Page Number: 23
Household schedule number: 133
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Briers 31
Ann Briers 32
Ellen Briers 9
Arthur Briers 7
Ethel Briers 3 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Harry Briers 2/12 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


Ann Briers
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Ann Briers
Gender: Female
Age: 22
Relationship: Wife
Birth Year: 1869
Spouse: Henry Briers
Birth Place: St Helens, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Parr
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Residence Place: St Helens, Parr, Lancashire, England
Registration district: Prescot
Sub registration district: St Helens
ED, Institution or Vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3023
Folio: 85
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Briers 21
Ann Briers 22
Ann Briers 69

So - Henry (Ellen's husband and Colin's grandfather) -

Henry Briers
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Henry Briers
Gender: Male
Age: 17
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1874
Father: Henry Briers
Mother: Martha Briers
Birth Place: St Helens, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Parr
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Residence Place: St Helens, Parr, Lancashire, England
Registration district: Prescot
Sub registration district: St Helens
ED, Institution or Vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3023
Folio: 77
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Briers 49
Martha Briers 53
Henry Briers 17
Eliza J Briers 19
Henry Seddon 22


Henry Briars
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Henry Briars
[Henry Briers]
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Henry Briars
Mother: Martha Briars
Gender: Male
Where born: St Helens, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Parr
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 10 Traverse Street
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Prescot
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3737
Folio: 30
Page Number: 53
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Briars 39
Martha Briars 43
John Briars 14
Ann Briars 13
Eliza J. Briars 10
Henry Briars 8
William Smith 66
Mary Smith 81


I don't see a sister Ethel.

Two Colin Briers born in Lancashire.

One in Prescot 1934, one in Littlebro' 1937.

Because of Ethel's marriage being in Prescot, I'll try to follow that one.

Probably his parents' marriage:

Marriages Mar 1923 (>99%)
Briers Henry Fallon Prescot 8b 926
Fallon Elizabeth E Briers Prescot 8b 926

According to a tree on Ancestry, Henry was born 1901, parents Henry Briers and Ellen Kilshaw

****** That tree has photos ******** (Daniel Houlton family tree)



Henry Briers
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Henry Briers
Age in 1911: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: St Helens, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: St Helens
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 15 Park Road St Helens
Registration district: Prescot
Registration District Number: 456
Sub-registration district: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Piece: 22775
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Briers 37
Ellen Briers 31
James Briers 10
Henry Briers 9
Florence Briers 5
Iris Briers 3



Ellen Briers
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Ellen Briers
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: Harry Briers
Birth Place: St Helens, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: St Helen
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: St Helen
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 09
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3520
Folio: 62
Page Number: 46
Household schedule number: 238
Household Members:
Name Age
Harry Briers 26
Ellen Briers 21
Margaret Briers 7
James Briers 8/12

Just to give an idea of dates:


Marriages Jun 1917 (>99%)

Briers Ethel Cain Prescot 8b 1155
Cain Henry Briers Prescot 8b 1155

Hello I am trying to find any relatives of Colin Briers from St Helens .I was in touch a few years ago .he was a relative of my Grandma Ethel Briers she was married to Henry Cain .believe Colins Grandad was a Brother of my Gran .can anyone point me in the right direction as trying to find info on Briers Family Thank You Barbara . one of the reasons for enquiry is I am looking for family photos ? Thanks