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Maureen
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26 Nov 2017 16:04 |
Thank you Chris for all the information.
The 1939 Register address confirms Henry's niece was visiting him in 1922.
The 1871 Census has head of family as John Devaney,rather than James son John William b1869 Lancashire. James Francis b Lancashire.
1878 James Devany death
In the 1881 Census mother Ann now married to Peter Smith, living in Westleigh, Lancs she is listed born Sligo also son James F born Sligo although this could be taken down incorrectly.
The 1881 census John William 1869 is Bradford Yorkshire, I have obtained the cert and it does say father JAMES.
I found a Mary E Devany living in Westleigh in 1881 with another family.
The above Baptisms do look likely maybe the 1871 census details for James/John error as names of family members are the same.
I couldn't find a marriage for James Devany and Ann Waters, thinking that elder son James listed born in Sligo 1862c they would have married in Ireland,
I have not been able to find James F Devany or any record for mother Ann Moss and George Moss in 1901 and 1911
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Chris Ho :)
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26 Nov 2017 08:20 |
Is that Henry below?...
Chris :)
Baptism: 25 Jan 1874 Our Lady of Mount Carmel, Blackley, Lancashire, England Henricus Devanaigh - filius Jacobi Devanaigh & Annae (formerly Waters) Born: 13 Jan 1874 Abode: 4 Ogden Street, Harpurhey Godparents: Eugenius McHugh; Elizabeth Crook Baptised by: Thoma Billington Register: Baptisms 1871 - 1887, Page 29 Source: Original Register at Lancashire Archives
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1874
DAVANEY Henry WATERS Ardwick Archives+, Manchester Central Library
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php
1939 Register (Find My Past)
57 College Street , St Helens C.B., Lancashire Henry Devany 13 Jan 1874 Male Corn Miller And Provender Merchant Retired Married Florence G Devany 26 Feb 1888 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Marriages Mar 1915 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Devany Henry Hartland W.Derby 8b 623 Hartland Florence G Devany W.Derby 8b 623
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Baptism: 23 Jun 1861 Cathedral Church of St John the Evangelist, Salford, Lancashire, England Jacobus Francis Devany - filius Jacobi Devany & Annae (formerly Waters) Born: 13 Jun 1861 Godparents: Eduardus Campbell; Brigitta Rathian Baptised by: Richardus Brindle M. C. Source: Original Register at LRO Preston
Marriage: 17 Jan 1891 St Mary the Virgin, Leigh, Lancashire, England John William Devaney - 21, Collier, Bachelor, Westleigh Annie Leighton - 19, Spinster, Westleigh Groom's Father: James Devaney, (Deceased), Labourer Bride's Father: Joseph Leighton, Collier Witness: John Isherwood; Priscilla Isherwood, (X) Married by Banns by: J. H. Stanning Vicar Register: Marriages 1887 - 1901, Page 64, Entry 127 Source: LDS Film 1885653
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Marriage: 2 May 1885 St Mary the Virgin, Leigh, Lancs. George Andrew Moss - (X), 38 Miner Bachelor of Westleigh Ann Smith - (X), 42 Widow of Westleigh Groom's Father: Andrew Moss, Bricklayer Bride's Father: James Water, Farmer Witness: William Moffatt, (X); Rose Hannah Higham, (X) Married by Banns by: T. M. Knowles St. Paul's Westleigh Register: Marriages 1870 - 1887, Page 192, Entry 383 Source: LDS Film 1885653
1871 (Find My Past) John Devaney Head - Male 48 1823 - Ireland (Bricklayers Labourer) Ann Devaney Wife - Female 32 1839 - Ireland James F Devaney Son - Male 9 1862 - Lancashire, England Mary E Devaney Daughter - Female 6 1865 - Lancashire, England John W Devaney Son - Male 2 1869 - Lancashire, England Charter Street Marshalls Court, Manchester, Lancashire City Manchester County Lancashire
https://www.genesreunited.com.au/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1369063
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Maureen
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25 Nov 2017 23:25 |
I have the Birth cert of John William born in 1869 in Bradford, to confirm his parents.
I cant locate the 1871 Census, I find them in 1881 in Westleigh Lancs. when Ann has remarried to Peter Smith this was before marriage to George Moss, the Devany children has been taken down as DING, included are James Francis born Sligo and John William, Henry, Thomas and Margaret Ann.
I think the William in St Giles will be too early, but the others are possible though not on 1881 census, I will check deaths.
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SylviaInCanada
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25 Nov 2017 23:08 |
??? other children????
DAVANY, WILLIAM mmn WATERS GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in ST GILES Volume 01B Page 410 Order
DEVANNY, MARY ELLEN mmn WATERS GRO Reference: 1864 S Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 112
DEVEHNY, BRIDGET ANN WATERS GRO Reference: 1867 S Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 620
DEVANY, JOHN WILLIAM WATERS GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 46
DEVANEY, HENRIETTA WATERS GRO Reference: 1871 S Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 270
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SylviaInCanada
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25 Nov 2017 23:02 |
so is this Margaret Ann's birth registration??
DAVEHNY, MARGARET ANN mmn WATERS GRO Reference: 1878 M Quarter in BOLTON Volume 08C Page 339
and therefore are these registrations for Henry and Thomas???
DAVANY, HENRY mmn WATERS GRO Reference: 1874 M Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 692
DEVANY, THOMAS mmn WATERS GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in BOLTON Volume 08C Page 318
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Maureen
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25 Nov 2017 22:50 |
Thank you for the record I will check up on St Josephs Parish, looks promising
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25 Nov 2017 22:46 |
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British Army Service Records 1760-1915
First name(s) Thomas Last name Devaney Birth year 1878 Birth parish St Josephs Birth town Manchester Birth county Lancashire Birth country England Service number 5140 Regiment - Year 1895 Attestation date 20 Sep 1895 Attestation age years 17 Attestation age months 9 Attestation service number 5140 Attestation corps 3rd Battalion Manchester Regiment Document type Attestation Series Wo 96 - Militia Service Records 1806-1915 Archive The National Archives Archive reference WO 96 Box 998 Box record number 154 Record set British Army Service Records Category Armed forces & conflict Subcategory Regimental & service records Collections from United Kingdom, England
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Born in parish of St Joseph's, Manchester Living in parish of St Patrick's, Manchester Occupation: Labourer Employed by Lancashire & York Rail Company, Oldham Road 5'7" tall 120 lbs Large scar (7") on left shin Roman Catholic
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Maureen
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25 Nov 2017 22:40 |
Thank you Sylviain Woolton is in Liverpool District, I see there are families with Devaney name in Liverpool. There are so many different spellings for Devany it makes it more difficult to find records.
Ann Waters maiden married James Devany one child James Patrick born in Sligo so assume married there sometime around 1861, on her marriage to George Moss her father is listed as James Waters. a farmer.
I have tried to find a marriage and birth in Ireland with no success.
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SylviaInCanada
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25 Nov 2017 22:38 |
Do you have the marriage certificate for George and Ann?
That could give her father's name
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Maureen
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25 Nov 2017 22:35 |
Thank you looks promising for Henry in St Helens.
I found that Henry's sister Margaret Ann Devanny Smith emigrated with her young family in 1903. Her daughter Margaret O Smith was on a passenger list in 1922 coming from US to an address Hill House Cottage, College Street St Helens, no name of person or relationship was given as to who she was visiting.
Still hoping to locate Ann Moss in census or death record, looking to see if place of birth in Sligo gives a Town.
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25 Nov 2017 22:25 |
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1901 Census
Name: Thomas Devaney Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Gender: Male Birth Place: Woolton, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: New Windsor Search Photos: Search for 'New Windsor' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: New Windsor St John and All Saints Town: New Windsor County/Island: Berkshire Country: England
Registration district: Windsor Sub-registration district: Windsor ED, institution, or vessel: Victoria Barracks Windsor
Piece: 1169 Folio: 114 Page Number: 3 Household schedule number: 1
Thomas Devaney 24 Private, Grenadier Guards
UK, Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioner Soldier Service Records, 1760-1920
Name: Thomas Devaney Age: 23 Birth Date: abt 1876 Birth Place: Woolton, Lancashire, England Service Start Year: 1899 Regiment: Woolton Lancashire Regimental Number: 8465 Attestation Paper: y
more details at Fold3 .............. I don't have a subscription
OR this one????
UK, Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioner Soldier Service Records, 1760-1920
Name: Thomas Devaney Age: 18 Birth Date: abt 1874 Birth Place: St Patricks, Lancashire, England Service Start Year: 1892 Regiment: Royal Artillery Regimental Number: 92615 Attestation Paper: y
more details on Fold3
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ArgyllGran
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25 Nov 2017 22:11 |
Maybe Henry ??
Henry Devany in the 1911 England Census Name: Henry Devany Age in 1911: 33 Estimated birth year: abt 1878 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: St Helens County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 33 Rutland St St Helens Marital Status: Single Occupation: Agent For Corn Flour Registration district: Prescot Registration District Number: 456 Sub-registration district: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Piece: 22758 Household Members: Name Age Henry Devany 33
Henry Devany in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Henry Devany Death Age: 67 Birth Date: abt 1874 Registration Date: Sep 1941 Registration district: St Helens Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 828
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Maureen
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25 Nov 2017 20:16 |
Thomas was born in Westleigh/ West Houghton Lancashire according to other census.
I am hoping to find Ann Moss the mother of the Devany children, but cant trace either George Moss and Ann in 1901 or 1911 I looked for deaths in this range none showing.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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25 Nov 2017 20:10 |
Possibly
VIEW 1911 England Census
Name: Thomas Devaney Age in 1911: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Liverpool Search Photos: Search for 'Liverpool' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 75 Henry Edward Street Lpool Marital Status: Single Occupation: General Labourer Registration district: Liverpool Registration District Number: 453 Sub-registration district: Exchange ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Piece: 22165 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Devaney 35
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Maureen
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25 Nov 2017 19:37 |
I have family in 1891 Census
George A Moss 44 born St Helens Ann Moss 52 born Sligo Ireland Henry Devany 17 step son born Gorton Lancs Thomas Devany 15 step son born Westleigh lancs Margaret A Devany 14 step daughter born Westleigh lancs
Civil Parish Westleigh Reg Dist Leigh Residence Place Leigh Westleigh Lancs
I am looking for the family in 1901 and 1911 census, I have found the daughter Margaret A married to Edward Smith but cant locate the others.
Thank you
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