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I found my g grandmother on 1881 census living in the above address, down as a servant. On further investigation I found out it was a benevolent home for fallen women. On another site it was a home for young girls up to age of 18. My g grandmother was 20. Could she be a servant or one of the girls staying there. Any information anyone has would be appreciated. Thanks

An Emma Kirby 20 and Mary Newton 21 as Dom. Servants...(you don't mention a name)

Chris :)

(1881 Reference. Find My Past)

House number 56
Street South Hill Road
Parish Toxteth Park
County Lancashire
Registration district Toxteth Park
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 3645
Folio 74


http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/list/MH4.shtml

(info. on above)


(would that be her below?)

Baptism: 16 Dec 1860 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Emma Kirby - [Child] of John Kirby & Mary
Born: 17 Oct 1860
Abode: Everton
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: W. R. Duncan, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1860 - 1861, Page 331, Entry 2644
Source: LDS Film 1656561

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html


Birth
KIRBY, EMMA (FISHER)
GRO Reference: 1860 D Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 296

For that time any birth wood be registered so have you looked for any possible births

As the first for entries on the image are down as domestic servants, that's what they were. The names after theirs are 'Inmates'.

The opening entry is on the previous page. The head of the household was the Matron, Jane Gruntley?
Then a Laundress Elizabeth Weston, Asst Matron Mary K Gatton.

The following page (the one with your relative) lists 4 servants & 20 'inmates' with a further 15 'inmates' on the next image.

Hi Chris,Yes, Emma Kirby is my g grandmother. Do u understand what Fisher in brackets is? Could it be her mothers maiden name? Thanks for your help.

Brenda yes Fisher is the mothers maiden name. This is taken from the GRO index.

Her Parents below...

Chris :)

Marriages Dec 1859 (>99%)
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Fisher Mary Ann W.Derby 8b 636
Kirby John W Derby 8b 636


Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1859

KIRBY John FISHER Mary A Kirkdale, St. Mary Liverpool 2013WD/2/80

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php


1861 (Find My Past)
John Kirby Head Married Male 26 1835 Labourer Melling, Lancashire, England
Mary A Kirby Wife - Female 25 1836 - Broughton Beck, Lancashire, England
Emma Kirby Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
6, Brook Square, Everton, West Derby, Lancashire

Thanks for your help on this. I've got more delving to do now. But, it is interesting putting things together. Have a nice day ??