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Not sure if this should be on here or on Finding Ancestors so will move if it's in the wrong place :-S

My maternal great grandmother Julia Ellis born 1866 in Ossett gave birth to George Claude Ellis in 1885, no father on birth certificate. She then married Ernest Barstow in 1886 and they had two daughters. I can't find Julia on any Census after 1891. Ernest is not on that Census and I can't find his death.

Not doing very well with this Family History stuff!

Many thanks in anticipation.

Gill

Here is fine Gillian :-)

for my ref

Wakefield district marriages
First name(s) ERNEST
Last name BARSTOW
Birth year -
Marriage year 1886
Marriage day 21
Marriage month Feb
Church Holy Trinity
Marriage place OSSETT
Spouse's first name(s) Julia
Groom's first name(s) Ernest
Groom's last name BARSTOW
Groom's age FA
Groom's occupation Grocer
Groom's residence Batley Carr
Groom's father's first name(s) John James
Groom's father's last name BARSTOW
Groom's father's occupation Cashier
Bride's first name(s) Julia
Bride's last name ELLIS
Bride's age FA
Bride's residence Ossett
Bride's father's first name(s) Nathan
Bride's father's last name ELLIS
Bride's father's occupation Timekeeper
How married Banns
Checked CHECKED
Archive reference WDP 180/1/2/1
Society reference R 83
County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Record set Wakefield district marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain

Mistranscribed here as Barston

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Horse and Jockery Inn, Dale Street, Ossett with Gawthorpe, Dewsbury, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Nathan Ellis Head Married Male 67 1824 Yorkshire, England Inn Keeper
Mary Ellis Wife Married Female 57 1834 Yorkshire, England -
Julia Barston Daughter Married Female 25 1866 Yorkshire, England -
George Claude Ellis Grandson Single Male 5 1886 Yorkshire, England -
Beatrice Eveline Barston Granddaughter Single Female 3 1888 Yorkshire, England -
Mary Eliza Ellis Barston Granddaughter Single Female 0 1891 Yorkshire, England -
Eliza Ellis Sister Single Female 35 1856 Yorkshire, England Cloth Burler

So much detail here. Thank you very much Nyx! Just seen your second message. No sign of Ernest though.

BARSTOW, BEATRICE EVELINE mmn ELLIS Order
GRO Reference: 1887 S Quarter in DEWSBURY Volume 09B Page 706

BARSTOW, MARY ELIZA ELLIS mmn ELLIS Order
GRO Reference: 1891 M Quarter in DEWSBURY Volume 09B Page 682 Occasional Copy: A

Baptism
First name(s) Beatrice Eveline
Last name Barstow
Birth year 1887
Birth date 04 Jun 1887
Baptism year 1887
Baptism date 17 Jul 1887
Father's first name(s) Ernest
Father's last name Barstow
Father's occupation Grocer
Father's residence Dale Street
Mother's first name(s) Julia
Mother's last name Barstow
Mother's residence Dale Street
Place Ossett, Holy Trinity
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Checked CHECKED
Archive reference WDP 180/1/5
Society reference S 57
Record set Wakefield district baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

On that baptism it gives Ernest's occupation as Grocer, so it 'might' be this one?

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
West Gate, Dewsbury, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Rebecca Holm Head Widow Female 57 1834 Yorkshire, England Lodging House Keeper Transcription
Sarah A Thompson Sister Widow Female 59 1832 Yorkshire, England Domestic Servant
Ellen Newton Servant Single Female 23 1868 London, Middlesex, England Domestic Servant
Ernest Bairstow Lodger Married Male 27 1864 Yorkshire, England Grocers Assistant >>>>>>>
Charles Ideson Lodger Single Male 20 1871 Yorkshire, England Grocers Assistant
Frederick Fieldman Lodger Single Male 18 1873 Switzerland Grocers Assistant

??



1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

11, Friswell Street, Pendleton, Salford, Lancashire, England



James Schofield Head Married Male 49 1852 Manchester, Lancashire, England Labourer Sewerage Works

Ann J Schofield Wife Married Female 50 1851 Salford, Lancashire, England -

Minnie R Schofield Daughter Single Female 19 1882 Salford, Lancashire, England Hooker Cotton

Clara E Schofield Daughter Single Female 17 1884 Salford, Lancashire, England Hooker Cotton

James Royle Lodger Widower Male 62 1839 Bowden, Cheshire, England Gardener Domestic

>>>>Ernest Bastow Lodger Widower Male 38 1863 Dewsbury, Yorkshire, England Commercial Clerk

1901 Julia still says married, but again no Ernest, mistranscribed on FMP

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Dale Street, Ossett cum Gawthorpe, Dewsbury, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Julia Balston Head Married Female 35 1866 Ossett, Yorkshire, England -
George C Balston Son Single Male 15 1886 Ossett, Yorkshire, England -
Beatrice E Balston Daughter Single Female 13 1888 Ossett, Yorkshire, England -
Mary E E Balston Daughter Single Female 10 1891 Ossett, Yorkshire, England -

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Greengates Chickenley Lane, Soothill Nether, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Julia Barstow Head Widow Female 56 ( 46 on image) 1855 Ossett Yorkshire None
Mary Eliza Ellis Barstow Daughter Single Female 20 1891 Ossett Yorkshire Blanket Weaver
Gladys May Barstow Daughter Single Female 8 1903 Ossett Yorkshire School Girl

BARSTOW, GLADYS MAY - Order
GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in DEWSBURY Volume 09B Page 671

No mother's maiden name suggests Gladys might be child of one of the daughters, rather than Julia's child?

EDIT baptised as Julia's though

England, Births & Baptisms 1538-197
First name(s) Gladys May
Last name Barstow
Gender Female
Birth year 1903
Birth place Ellis Yard, Dale St., Ossett
Baptism year 1903
Baptism date 29 Apr 1903
Residence Ossett, York, England
Place Ossett-With-Gawthorpe
County Yorkshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) -
Father's last name -
Mother's first name(s) Julia
Mother's last name Barstow
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain
Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl

Wakefield district marriages
First name(s) BEATRICE EVELYN
Last name BARSTOW
Birth year 1887
Marriage year 1911
Marriage day 23
Marriage month Dec
Church St Mary
Marriage place GAWTHORPE
Spouse's first name(s) William
Groom's first name(s) William
Groom's last name WILBOND
Groom's age 24
Groom's occupation Miner,
Groom's residence Streethouse Normanton,
Groom's father's first name(s) Thomas
Groom's father's last name WILBOND
Groom's father's occupation Labourer
Bride's first name(s) Beatrice Evelyn
Bride's last name BARSTOW
Bride's age 24
Bride's residence Chickenley Lane Chickenley Heath
Bride's father's first name(s) Ernest
Bride's father's last name BARSTOW
Bride's father's occupation Grocer (D)
How married Banns
Checked CHECKED
Archive reference WDP 7/1/2/1&2
Society reference P 73
County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Record set Wakefield district marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain

possibly -

England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915


Name: Ernest Barstow

Estimated birth year: abt 1865

Registration Year: 1910

Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep

Age at Death: 45

Registration district: Prestwich

Inferred County: Lancashire

Volume: 8d

Page: 162

from lancs bmd. He apparently died in the Cheetham area


Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1910

BARSTOW Ernest 45 Cheetham Archives+, Manchester Central Library CHE/134/425

Many thanks Nyx, Choccy and SylviainCanada. Lots for me to read.