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(which Birth reference is that on below?)

Chris :)

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Wow. This is fantastic I will take some time to look through it at the weekend. Thank you so much. Fanny is still a complete mystery. I have found her on GRO using the DOB on the census - with her mother maiden name being Jeffries, however I then can’t find her dying. Hopefully this will all make more sense. I have a lovely photo of the Cresswell’s which I will add somewhere

From freereg

County Nottinghamshire
Place (with link) Nottingham
Church name (with link) St Mary
Register type (with link) Transcript
Marriage date 1 Nov 1869
Groom forename William
Groom surname POTTER
Groom age 50
Bride forename Martha
Bride surname POTTER
Bride age 40
Groom father forename Thomas
Groom father surname POTTER
Bride father forename Robert
Bride father surname WHELDON
Notes Groom's father deceased. Bride signed X.
Transcribed by John Turton
Credit John Mellors
File line number 3861
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Nottinghamshire marriages index 1528-1929 Transcription
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First name(s) William
Last name Potter
Marriage year 1869
Marriage date 01 Nov 1869
Marriage place Nottingham
Church St Mary
Denomination Anglican
Spouse's first name(s) Martha
Spouse's last name Potter
County Nottinghamshire

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Name: Age at Death (in years):
POTTER, MARGARET 35 Order
GRO Reference: 1865 M Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 91


and
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%)
POTTER Martha Nottingham 7b 382
POTTER William Nottingham 7b 382
Tims Joseph Nottingham 7b 382
WOODWARD Mary Nottingham 7b 382

(to go with 1911 posted earlier)

Chris :)

Birth
TOWSON, MINNIE (POTTER)
GRO Reference: 1893 D Quarter in ROCHDALE Volume 08E Page 34


Marriages Dec 1885 (>99%)
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POTTER Mary Jane Nottingham 7b 425
TOWSON Harry Sidney Nottingham 7b 425


Deaths Jun 1895 (>99%)
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Towson Mary Jane 32 Rochdale 8e 32


County Nottinghamshire
Place (with link) Nottingham
Church name (with link) St Mary
Register type (with link) Transcript
Marriage date 13 Dec 1885
Groom forename Harry Sidney
Groom surname TOWSON
Groom age 26
Bride forename Mary Jane
Bride surname POTTER
Bride age 24
Groom father forename Golding
Groom father surname TOWSON
Bride father forename Thomas
Bride father surname POTTER
Notes Groom's father deceased. Bride signed X. Bride's father deceased.
Transcribed by John Turton
Credit John Mellors


(notes below!)

Baptism
Place Carrington
Church name (with link) St John
Register type (with link) Unspecified
Baptism date 10 Apr 1864
Person forename Fanny
Person sex F
Father forename Thomas
Mother forename Martha
Father surname POTTER
Person abode Carrington
Father occupation Lace Maker

(also same below)

Mary Jane POTTER Baptism 10 Apr 1864
Sarah Ann POTTER Baptism 10 Apr 1864 Nottinghamshire
Richard POTTER Baptism 10 Apr 1864
Arthur POTTER Baptism 10 Apr 1864 Nottinghamshire Carrington


Marriages Dec 1908 (>99%)
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ALLSEBROOK Joseph Bernard Nottingham 7b 679
CRESSWELL Clara Nottingham 7b 679


Baptism
County Nottinghamshire
Place Hyson Green
Church name (with link) St Stephen
Register type (with link) Unspecified
Baptism date 04 Apr 1897
Person forename Clara
Person sex F
Father forename Henry Byer
Mother forename Fanny
Father surname CRESWELL
Person abode 31 Lambert St
Father occupation Lacemaker
Transcribed by John Turton


(no idea on below, but looks to relate to postings by GG below)

Birth
POTTER, FRANCES (WHELDON)
GRO Reference: 1852 D Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 100

Birth
POTTER, SARAH ANN (WILDIN)
GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in RADFORD Volume 07B Page 172

Birth
POTTER, MARY JANE (WILDIN)
GRO Reference: 1861 D Quarter in RADFORD Volume 07B Page 170


Marriages Jun 1850 (>99%)
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Potter Thomas Basford 15 705
Wildon Martha Basford 15 705


County Nottinghamshire
Place Basford
Church name (with link) St Leodegarius
Register type (with link) Unspecified
Marriage date 19 May 1850
Groom forename Thomas
Groom surname POTTER
Bride forename Martha
Bride surname WILDON


1861 (Find My Past)
Frank Potter Head Married Male - - Lace Maker Loughborough, Leicestershire, England
Elizabeth Potter Wife Married Female 28 1833 Needle Woman Sneinton, Nottinghamshire, England
Richard Potter Son Unmarried Male 10 1851 Threader Cannington, Somerset, England
Elizabeth Potter Daughter Unmarried Female 4 1857 - Cannington, Somerset, England
John Potter Son Unmarried Male 2 1859 - Cannington, Somerset, England
Hannah Potter Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Sneinton, Nottinghamshire, Englan
Martha Potter Daughter Widow Female 30 1831 Lace Mender Sneinton, Nottinghamshire, England
Fanny Potter Daughter Unmarried Female 8 1853 - Carrington
Arthur Potter Son - Male 4 1857 - Carrington
Sarah Ann Potter Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Sneinton, Nottinghamshire, England
Nelson Street, Snenton, Radford, Nottinghamshire,


(below for 1851 reference posted)

Marriage: 9 Nov 1851 St Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
William Potter - (X), Full age, Soldier, Bachelor, Quay
Margaret Carter - (X), full age, Spinster, Penny Street
Groom's Father: Thomas Potter, Lacemaker
Bride's Father: William Carter, Labourer
Witness: Elizabeth Baxter; John Beckett, (X)
Married by Certificate of the Superintendent Registrar by: Jos. Turner, Vicar
Register: Marriages 1849 - 1852, Page 177, Entry 354
Source: LDS Film 1526201

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

The paperwork above shows a Regimental board held ?in Fermoy(Ireland) 23 august 1858 to verify Service, conduct etc prior to his discharge.

It records his Trade as Lace Maker born Loughborough, attested at Garendon, Leics.

Served 21 years 215 days including abroad -
West Indies for 3 year 2 months, America ? length and ? where 8 months

Discharged as found unfit for further service.

Awful handwriting - seems to have been generally of good character BUT there are 19 entries against his name in the Regimental Defaulters book. (No doubt why he was a Private after all those years - either still Private or he had progressed but punished and lost rank)

British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription

First name(s) William
Last name Potter
Birth year 1819
Birth parish Loughborough
Birth town Loughborough
Birth county Leicestershire
Birth country England
Service number 1361
Rank PRIVATE
Regiment 14th Reg Of Foot
Year 1837
Attestation date 21 Jan 1837
Attestation age years 18
Discharge corps 14th Reg Of Foot
Discharge service number 1361
Document type Discharge
Series Wo 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army Service Records 1760-1913
Archive The National Archives
Archive reference WO 97
Box 1435
Box record number 40

??
Lancaster RD covers Pilling

Births Mar 1853 (>99%)
Potter William Lancaster 8e 531

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
POTTER, WILLIAM CARTER Order
GRO Reference: 1853 M Quarter in LANCASTER Volume 08E Page 531

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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1851 (>99%)
ASHTON Samuel Lancaster 21 459
BAILEY Mary Ann Lancaster 21 459
BECK Mary Lancaster 21 459
Carter Margaret Lancaster 21 459 <<<<<<<
Elkin Jane Lancaster 21 459
Gardner John Kew Lancaster 21 459
Jennings James Lancaster 21 459
POTTER William Lancaster 21 459 <<<<<<<<<

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Leonard Gate, Lancaster, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Potter Lodger Unmarried Male 32 1819 Private 14 Reg On Recruiting Driver Loughborough, Leicestershire, England
Edward Ailey Lodger Married Male 37 1814 Wood Turner Bradford, Yorkshire, England

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1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Spring Terrace, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Potter Head Married Male 42 1819 Pensioner Loughborough, Leicestershire, England
Margaret Potter Wife Married Female 32 1829 - Pilling, Lancashire, England
William Potter Son - Male 8 1853 - Pilling, Lancashire, England

William and son William b Lancashire as per 1871 but a different wife.

William Senior is listed as a Pensioner so previous Army service maybe

Mistranscribed on 1939 register

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION

Bresswell Household (2 People)
31 Lambert Street , Nottingham C.B., Nottinghamshire, England

Henry B Bresswell 15 Mar 1856 Male Old Age Pensioner Widowed 290 1
Martha R ** Bresswell 20 Jul 1881 Female U A B Single 290 2

** On second look it is L on image
Births Sep 1881 (>99%)
Cresswell Martha Lucy Nottingham 7b 256

Below...

Chris :)

14 August 1941 - Nottingham Evening Post - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire

Death
CRESSWELL - August 12th, 1941 at 31 Lambert-street, Henry (Harry), aged 85, dearly loved father of Lucy, Clara, Pem, Lizzie, sons in-law and grandchildren. Resting where no shadows fall. Re-united. Service, St. Stephen's 10 o'clock, Basford 10.45.


18 November 1918 - Nottingham Evening Post - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire

IN MEMORIAM
CRESSWELL - In loving memory of Priscilla, the dearly beloved daughter of Harry and Fanny Cresswell, 31 lambert street, who died November 17th, 1914 Never to be forgotten. father, mother, and family.

So this one?

Original says born Carrington (not Beeston) for her place of birth - they are about 7 miles apart.
Carrington is next door to Hyson Green and Radford next door to Hyson Green the other way. About 2 miles in it.

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
King Street, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Potter Head - Male 52 1819 - Leicestershire, England
Martha Potter Wife - Female 40 1831 - Nottinghamshire, England
Fanny Potter Daughter - Female 18 1853 - Nottinghamshire, England
William Potter Son - Male 19 1852 - Lancashire, England
Sarah Potter Daughter - Female 10 1861 - Nottinghamshire, England
John Potter Son Of Daughter - Male 0 1871 - Nottinghamshire, England
Mary Jane Potter Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Nottinghamshire, England

EDIT - doesn't look to be correct one looking at Chris Ho's post from free reg which gives Father as William.

I would think this is Fanny in 1861 as Frances C (original looks like a C, but later on C and E could well have been confused.

Trowell is about 5 miles from Beeston

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Trowell, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Potter Head Married Male 42 1819 Farmer Of 40 Acres Employing 5 Men And Six Boys Nottinghamshire, England
Ellen Potter Wife Married Female 35 1826 - Nottinghamshire, England
Frances C Potter Daughter Unmarried Female 9 1852 Scholar Nottinghamshire, England
Ellen H Potter Daughter Unmarried Female 6 1855 - Nottinghamshire, England
Tom Potter Son Unmarried Male 4 1857 - Trowell, Nottinghamshire, England
William Dunnicliffe Pupil Unmarried Male 17 1844 Farm Pupil Nottinghamshire, England
Henry Lowe Servant Unmarried Male 22 1839 Carter Beeston, Nottinghamshire, England
William Cross Servant Unmarried Male 19 1842 Under Carter Leicestershire, England
Samuel Clarke Servant Unmarried Male 14 1847 Cookes Boy Blidworth, Nottinghamshire, England
John Barker Servant Unmarried Male 15 1846 Groom Blidworth, Nottinghamshire, England
John Bardle Servant Unmarried Male 14 1847 Cow Boy Stapleford, Nottinghamshire, England
Ellen Hacket Servant Unmarried Female 20 1841 Kitchen Girl Aston, Derbyshire, England
Thirza Chamber Servant Unmarried Female 19 1842 Housemaid Awsworth, Nottinghamshire, England

County Nottinghamshire
Place Nottingham
Church name (with link) St Mary
Register type (with link) Transcript
Marriage date 15 May 1880
Groom forename Henry
Groom surname CRESSWELL
Groom age 26
Bride forename Fanny
Bride surname POTTER
Bride age 27
Groom father forename Henry
Groom father surname CRESWELL
Bride father forename William
Bride father surname POTTER
Notes Bride signed X.
Transcribed by John Turton
Credit John Mellors

https://www.freereg.org.uk/

(from above link)

Chris :)

Abigail has Lucy Cresswell 1882 on her tree so posted info should be correct family.

Henry Boyer Cresswell was buried 16 August 1941 in Nottinghamshire with 3 other people.

4 days earlier Abigail and I still had full access to the records on the Deceasedonline website.

however if he died in Nottingham this burial is likely to be at Nottingham General Cemetery, Nottingham Rock or Church Cemetery, Southern Cemetery @ Wilford Hill or the Northern Cemetery at Bulwell.

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There is a burial for a Frances Fanny Cresswell on 3 March 1919 in Nottinghamshire also with 3 other burials.

I can't say for sure obviously, but would take a guess they are together ? with 2 other family members.

You can get £5 worth of credit to look at the full details. It would use £1.50 to look at the 3 other names and £2 to look at a scan of the burial register which may give an address.

He is henry b on the 1901 census

So

Deaths Sep 1941
Cresswell Henry B 85 Nottingham 7b 517

If Fanny was Frances E then this could be her death

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) FRANCES E
Last name CRESSWELL
Gender Unknown
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1853
Age 66
Death quarter 1
Death year 1919
District Nottingham
County Nottinghamshire
Volume 7B