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Wow, thank you so much Austin. That is far more than I could have hoped for.

Appreciated.

Thanks to all that gave me their time.

Best.

Father's probate:

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar
George Burton of 76 Landseer Road Holloway Middlesex died 10 December 1929 at 77a Highgate Hill Middlesex Administration London 4 February to Martha Ann Bygrave (wife of George Frederick Bygrave) Effects £185 18s 5d

1939 register:

Burton Household (5 People) 17 Henningham Road , Tottenham M.B., Middlesex, England

James H Burton 13 Aug 1894 Male Builders Labourer Heavy Worker Married
Mary (A) Burton 12 Nov 1894 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Doris R Wedeman (Holmes,Burton) 21 Feb 1917 Female Gown Machinist Single
Florence M Purcell (Burton) 14 Jul 1919 Female Gown Machinist Single
Ivy W Murphy (Burton) 22 Jul 1924 Female Milliner Single

His army record is on FMP

British Army Service Records

name(s) James Henry Burton
Age 25
Birth year 1893
Birth town Islington
Birth county Middlesex
Service number 78321
Regiment Tank Corps
Unit / Battalion 9th Battalion
Year 1919
Residence town Holloway
Residence county London

Where born: Tottenham 13 August 1893
Mother's name: Martha
Father's name: George
Wife's maiden name: Mary Ives
Date & place of marriage: 4-4-1915 St James, Victoria Rd.
Christian names of children: Martha Mary Beatrice Doris Rosine

Thank you so much Margaret. I had to go and do a few things, so have just got back online.

Well that certainly sounds a bit more like what I was led to believe. He was always referred to as Jimmy, so James sounds a bit alien to me, but it must be him.

Thank you for all your efforts, really appreciated.

Parents; marriage? He's a carman.


George Burton
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name:
George Burton
Gender:
Male
Record Type:
Marriage
Marriage Date:
14 Aug 1864
Marriage Place:
St Mary, Islington, Islington, England
Father:
John Burton
Spouse:
Martha Bacon
Register Type:
Parish Register

Could this be the family in 1901 if James Henry was known as Harry? Father George is a carman.


Martha Burton
in the 1901 England Census
Name:
Martha Burton
Age:
47
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1854
Relation to Head:
Wife
Gender:
Female
Spouse:
Geo Burton
Birth Place:
Stoke Newington, London, England

Civil Parish:
Tottenham
Ecclesiastical parish:
St Anne
County/Island:
Middlesex
Country:
England
Sub-registration district:
Tottenham

Household Members:

Geo Burton 47
Martha Burton 47
Geo Burton 22
Martha Burton 19
William Burton 16
Charley Burton 8
Harry Burton 5

Could this be your James in 1911? Father George is a carman.

James Burton
in the 1911 England Census
Name:
James Burton
Age in 1911:
16
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1895
Relation to Head:
Son
Gender:
Male
Birth Place:
Tottenham, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish:
Islington
County/Island:
London
Street address:
76 Landseer Road, Upper Holloway N
Marital Status:
Single
Occupation:
LAUNDRY BOY

Household Members:
George Burton 57
Martha Burton 57
Charles Burton 18
James Burton 16

Parents married 37 years, 13 children born, 8 had died, only 5 still living!

Hmmmm. tricky one. I was led to believe James was born in Tottenham, where he met Mary Ann.

But as we all know, take word of mouth with a huge pinch of salt.

Thanks for your time. I need to go back and think again.

Our posts crossed Margaret. I always thought his father was called George, and as far as I know he was not a copper. Burton is quite a common name.

This is the one with father Henry the policeman:


James Henry Burton
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917
Baptism Date:
29 Aug 1894
Baptism Place:
Kensal Green St Jude, Westminster, England
Father:
Henry Burton
Mother:
Annie Burton

Thanks again, the info for the Wedding is correct as 1915.

The name of James' father states George, yet the 1901 census states Henry.

Gonna have to dig a bit deeper I think.

But thanks again Namelessone and MargaretM.

Something's not right, that 1901 census says that his father is Henry a policeman but the marriage details say that father is George a carman.

James Henry Burton
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Marriage Age:
20
Birth Date:
abt 1895
Marriage Date:
4 Apr 1915
Marriage Place:
St James, Holloway, Islington, England
Father:
George Burton
Spouse:
Mary Ives

He's a carman as is his father. Her father James Francis Ives a labourer. Address for both 38 Georges Rd. Witnesses William John Ives, something is written after his name don't know if it's another witness, can't make it out. Also can't make out the first witness' name.

FOR REFERENCE

First name(s) MARY
Last name IVES
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1915
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ MARY IVES married
James H Burton
Spouse's last name Burton
District Islington

Thank you so much, that was quick!

3 sisters! That was a surprise.

Thanks again!

First name(s) Last name Relationship

Henry Burton Head Married Male 35 1866 Tunbridge Wells, Kent, England Police Constable

Annie Burton Wife Married Female 35 1866 - -

Ella Burton Daughter - Female 10 1891 London, England
Mildridge Burton Daughter - Female 8 1893 London,

James H Burton Son - Male 6 1895 London, England -

Gladys Burton Daughter - Female 0 1901 London, England
John C Bonner Boarder Single Male 53 1848 Kensington, Middlesex, England Clerk

Can someone do me a kindness and do a 1901 Look Up please?

James Henry Burton c. 1894 Tottenham (?)

Married a Mary Ann Ives in 1915, St James Church, Holloway, London.

I need James' family.

If the witnesses to the Wedding to Mary are available too, that would be terrific.

Thanks in advance.