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Re Emily Louisa -

she's with a Frederick John in Camden in 1918.

This is their marriage (per Ancestry):

Emily L Stanners
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Emily L Stanners
Registration Year: 1910
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: St Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 222
Records on Page:
Name
Frederick J Mardon
Emily L Stanners


Frederick John Mardon
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Frederick John Mardon
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 13 Hamilton Street, Camden Town N W
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: PAPER EMBOSSER
Registration district: St Pancras
Registration District Number: 9
Sub-registration district: East St Pancras
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Piece: 725
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick John Mardon 24
Emily Louisa Mardon 27



Emily G Mardon
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Emily G Mardon
[L Mardon]
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Widow
Birth Date: 9 Mar 1884
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 13
Residence Place: Merton and Morden, Surrey, England
Occupation: Unpaid Household Duties
Schedule Number: 195
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: CMVH
Registration district: 31/2
Household Members:
Name
Emily G Mardon
Marjorie I Mardon
Arthur F Mardon
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
Emily L Mardon
Charles W Young


Son's birth (just for proof) :

MARDON, ARTHUR FREDERICK mms STANNERS
GRO Reference: 1915 J Quarter in ST. PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 120


Emily's husband's birth:

Frederick John Mardon
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917
Name: Frederick John Mardon
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 9 Jan 1887
Baptism Place: Queen Square St George the Martyr, Camden, England
Father: Edwin Mardon
Mother: Eliza Mardon
Register Type: Parish Registers

I think there was more than one! In 1930 -on the electoral register- the Frederick John Mardon (born 1870) was living with Martha Mary Wood at 76 Finchley Park. Looks like he moves out for a while- and then returns.

Looks like Martha Mary Wood was Frederick's sister:

WOOD Martha Mary of 76 Finchley Park Finchley Middlesex widow died 20 June 1946 at St Columbus Hospital Swiss Cottage London NW£ Probate London 20 August to Samuel Henry Mardon accounts clerk.

Thanks SylviaInCanada.

Do you think there is any chance that there was more than one Frederick John Mardon living in London at these times?

I think Frederick John was a bit of a lad!!

He seems to have several address with different ladies from 1918 to 1939

who is Emily Louisa Mardon??

The Electoral Rolls for London have Frederick John living with Bertha from 1918 which I think is the first time that wives were added to the husband.

Then he is shown at TWO addresses in 4 Roll years (1920, 1921, 1922 and 1925), at one with Bertha in Poplar and in St Pancras with Emily Louisa Mardon, then he's only at one address with Emily Louisa

Frederick John Mardon 1920 Tower Hamlets Poplar 229 Davidson227

Frederick John Mardon 1920 Camden Saint Pancras 66

Frederick John Mardon 1921 Tower Hamlets Poplar 229 Covtd

Frederick John Mardon 1921 Camden St Pancras 65 Block

Frederick John Mardon 1922 Tower Hamlets Poplar 229 Manchester
Road

Frederick John Mardon 1922 Camden St Pancras 66 Block

Frederick John Mardon 1925 Tower Hamlets Poplar 229 Manchester Road-

Frederick John Mardon 1925 Camden St Pancras 65 Block


In 1923 he is only shown at the Camden St Pancras address with Emily Louisa and in 1924 he is shown only at the Poplar address wither Bertha


In 1928, he is on the Electoral Roll at 3 addresses!!

1. At 229 Manchester, with3 apparently unrelated people (this would be after Bertha's death)

2. At 65 Block Pancras with Emily Louisa

3. At 54 West City of Westminster with a Lilian Mardon


Then he seems to repeat somewhat the same pattern, but in 1933 he is living with Emily Louisa at 65 Blake, William George, St Pancras, Camden. With them is a Margery Joyce Mardon

In 1934 he is with Emily Louisa and Margery Joyce at 65 Block, AND with Martha Mary Wood in Finchley. From then until 1939 he is with Martha Mary.


It doesn't look as though your great grandfather had the greatest childhood, perhaps why he wouldn't talk about it!

Death for Alfred's wife:

name(s) NELLIE FRANCES MARDEN
Gender Female
Birth date 27th September 1924
Death quarter 1
Death year 1993
District Sutton
District number 2541A
Register number A46A
Entry number 209
Date of registration mm/yy 0293
County Surrey
-------------------------------------

Probate:

MARDEN NELLIE FRANCES of 19 Egleston Road St. Helier Morden Surrey died 15 February 1993 Probate Winchester 8 June Not Exceeding £125000
-------------------------------

Four possible children to the marriage
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Electoral register:

1948
15 Green Close Carshalton
Alfred G Marden
Nellie F Marden
Charles H Squires (snr)
Irene F Squires
Jane Squires

1959
34 Whitland Road Carshalton
Alfred G Marden
Nellie F Marden

1965
19 Egleston Road Morden
Alfred G Marden
Nellie F Marden

Thanks very much for you help and for giving me some more information Choccy, much appreciated!

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995


Name: Emily Jane Mardon

Death Date: 1 Mar 1945

Death Place: Brighton, England

Probate Date: 22 May 1945

Registry: Llandudno

of 58 Montpelier Road, Brighton, Widow, Administration (with Will) to Harry Moore, retired Foreman.
Effects - £274 12s 7d

Not cheap to get divorced then -

think this is possibly Emily in 1939


Mardon Household (1 Person)

48 Borough Street , Brighton C.B., Sussex, England


Emily J Mardon 19 Nov 1870 Female Private Means Married 300 1


NB If you look at the original, there are in fact others living at that address, none of whom appear to be family members


and probable death -


Deaths Mar 1945

Mardon Emily J 74 Brighton 2b 377

Thank you choccy for your help. Now saved!

Frederick John Mardon was married to an Emily Jane Martin in 1899 but seems to have never gotten divorced from her... Was it not something you could do in those days?

On Bertha Rivetts death certificate he is listed as the informant but has said she is a 'spinster' and also on her admissions to the Poplar & Stepney Sick Asylum he has simply said he was her 'friend' but then on both birth certificates of the boys she has been given the surname Mardon formerly Rivett. :-S

On Ancestry -

Search 1939 Register -

on the right hand side it says 'Browse Collection' - type in County: Middlesex
District: Friern Barnet
Enumeration District: BHAH
You then need to go to Page 14 of 24

Martha Wood and Frederick Mordon are listed at No. 76 Finchley Park

Ah ok thank you! unfortunately I'm not a member of FindMyPast

I used FindMyPast Will.

@Choccy, sorry but how do I do an address search? was that on here or Ancestry?

Thank you very much for your help everyone! I'm not sure on how to reply to people individually...

Alfreds Birth date on his Brith Dertificate is the 18th August 1924 so it appears that it is him @Argyllgran thank you very much for your help. It just seems his surname has been spelt en instead of on, which I have noticed when looking through others trees on ancestry with regards to the spelling of Mardon.

@Choccy thank you also for your help. The 1939 census for Frederick John is one I wasn't able to find probably due to the reasons you stated! What's interesting is Frederick Johns Mother was called Martha Wood but with the middle name Celia.... Maybe there is some family connection there between them!

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Deaths Mar 1943

MARDON Frederick J 72 Hendon 3a 713

Have posted a possible death above.



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Marriages Dec 1945 (>99%)

Marden Alfred G Squires Surrey Mid.E. 2a 448
Squires Ellen F Marden Surrey Mid.E. 2a 448

being young alfred g could have been adopted as not finding a marriage or death with that name

If you do an address search on the 1939 Register for 76 Finchley Park, Friern Barnet, Frederick J. Mardon is listed (dob 3/1/1870) as a Cook, with a Martha M Wood (dob 17/10/1868) (Housekeeper) living at the same address. I can't find them by any other method - they have obviously been mis-transcribed somehow.





London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911

Name: Fred Jno Mardon

Gender: Male

Age: 10

Birth Date: 3 Jan 1870

Admission Date: 16 Feb 1880

School: Creek Road School

Admission Place: Greenwich

Father: Saml Hen Mardon




England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Frederick John Mardon

Gender: Male

Baptism Date: 8 Jan 1871

Baptism Place: St. John the Baptist, Margate, Kent, England

Father: Samuel Henry Mardon

Mother: Martha Celia

???

Alfred George Marden
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Alfred George Marden
Death Age: 57
Birth Date: 18 Aug 1924
Registration Date: Mar 1982
Registration district: Sutton
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 15
Page: 0611


A tree on Ancestry says that your Alfred's DOB was 18 Aug 1924, but doesn't provide proof.
You say you have the birth cert - is that the correct date?.

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
MARDON Frederick N Rivett Chelsea 1a 651

Births Sep 1924 (>99%)
Mardon Alfred G Rivett Poplar 1c 693