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??? Maybe ?

A pupil at Denmark Hill School:


Alexr Clarke
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Alexr Clarke
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: St Giles Camberwell
Hundred: Brixton (Eastern Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address: Denmark Hill School
Occupation: Pupil
Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Camberwell
Neighbors:
Piece: 1050
Book: 2
Folio: 44
Page Number: 9


https://loughborough-junction.org/2015/08/24/the-house-at-the-bottom-of-the-hill/

The Denmark Hill Grammar School was a private school where classical languages were taught. David Fletcher was the senior partner and controlled the finances , his family lived in the House. Joseph Payne, according to Richard Aldrich was the Headmaster. He said to Lord Taunton in 1865 “In this school I had the entire charge of the children’s education”.

The school flourished, in the 1841 census showed 2 assistant masters, 2 assistant mistresses teaching the junior classes, 57 resident pupils aged from 5 to 15 years. By 1844 there were between 70 and 80 boys in the school.

Joseph Payne moved to run Leatherhead Grammar at the end of 1844 and for a while David Fletcher ran the school alone for a few years but in 1850 found a new partner in Charles Mason, They ran the school together for a further three years, Mason suceeded Fletcher and ran the school until it’s closure in 1865.

Alexander's death:

CLARKE, ALEXANDER FREDERICK 30
GRO Reference: 1857 J Quarter in FARNHAM Volume 02A Page 37

Was the Alexander Clarke on the 1851 Census as posted by Erika, actually Margaret's relation (???Brother)

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
York Town, Ash York Town, Farnham, Surrey, England

Robert Rogers Head Married Male 42 1809 Innkeeper Heckfield, Hampshire, England Transcription
Margaret Rogers Wife Married Female 41 1810 - Great Marlow, Buckinghamshire, England Transcription
David Rogers Son - Male 10 1841 Scholar Frimley, Surrey, England Transcription
Robert Rogers Son - Male 8 1843 Scholar Frimley, Surrey, England Transcription
>>>>>>> Alexander Clarke Visitor Unmarried Male 24 1827 Baker Frimley, Surrey, England Transcription


I ask because David is shown as Baker on the 1861 Census.

?? Robert's marriage, from FMP


England Marriages 1538-1973

First name(s) Robert
Last name Rogers
Name note -
Marriage year 1839
Marriage date 27 May 1839
Marriage place Frimley
Spouse's first name(s) Margaret
Spouse's last name Clark
County Surrey
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, United Kingdom


I think the vicar made a mistake (mishearing??) when recording the mother's name when David was baptised!!

I wonder where the Rebecca came from in David's baptism???

I can't find a Robert Rogers marriage to a Rebecca, but there is this marriage to a margaret Clark

Marriages Jun 1839 (>99%)
BARNARD Mary Anne Farnham 4 111
>>>>>>>>CLARK Margaret Farnham 4 111
GATES Henry Farnham 4 111
Hennessey Thomas Francis Farnham 4 111
MESSENGER Elizabeth Farnham 4 111
>>>>>>>>ROGERS Robert Farnham 4 111

????David's birth registration from GRO Index

ROGERS, DAVID mmn CLARKE
GRO Reference: 1840 S Quarter in FARNHAM Volume 04 Page 120


I think this is much more likely to be the son Robert Rogers birth registration ..... the 1851 Census does say he was born in 1843

ROGERS, ROBERT mmn CLARKE
GRO Reference: 1842 D Quarter in FARNHAM Volume 04 Page 124


ROGERS, GEORGE mmn CLARKE
GRO Reference: 1845 M Quarter in FARNHAM Volume 04 Page 143

ROGERS, ELLEN mmn CLARKE
GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in FARNHAM Volume 04 Page 157

David Rogers
in the 1841 England Census
Name: David Rogers
Age: 10 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Gender: Male
Where born: Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Ash
Hundred: Godley (First Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address: Newtown
Registration district: Farnham
Sub-registration district: Ash
Neighbors:
Piece: 1074
Book: 1
Folio: 8
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Rogers 30 - not born in county
David Rogers 10 Mo

Farnham includes Ash & Frimley

ROGERS, ROBERT -
GRO Reference: 1845 M Quarter in FARNHAM Volume 04 Page 154

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
York Town, Ash York Town, Farnham, Surrey, England
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Robert Rogers Head Married Male 42 1809 Innkeeper Heckfield, Hampshire, England Transcription
Margaret Rogers Wife Married Female 41 1810 - Great Marlow, Buckinghamshire, England Transcription
David Rogers Son - Male 10 1841 Scholar Frimley, Surrey, England Transcription
Robert Rogers Son - Male 8 1843 Scholar Frimley, Surrey, England Transcription
Alexander Clarke Visitor Unmarried Male 24 1827 Baker Frimley, Surrey, England Transcription
Samuel Closier Son Married Male 21 1830 Ostler Frimley, Surrey, England Transcription
Anne Taylor Servant Married Female 26 1825 Generel Servant Frimley, Surrey, England Transcription
Louisa Smith Visitor Married Female 33 1818 Dressmaker Charlton, Dorset, England Transcription
William Nickolls Visitor Married Male 29 1822 Boat Builder Lambeth, Surrey, England Transcription
Thomas Goddard - Unmarried Male 18 1833 Errand Boy Frimley, Surrey, England Transcription
Robert Richardson Lodger Unmarried Male 34 1817 Carpenter Journeman Odiham, Hampshire, England

Hello ErikaH.

Thank you very much for that information and your time.

Alan

Don't know if these are half-siblings


First name(s) Ellen Jane
Last name Rogers
Birth year -
Birth date 16 Nov ?
Baptism year 1846
Baptism date 13 Dec 1846
Baptism place Camberley Royal Military College
Relationship Dau
Father's first name(s) Robert
Mother's first name(s) Margaret
Parent's occupation College Servant
Residence Frimley, Ash
County Surrey

First name(s) George
Last name Rogers
Birth year 1844
Birth date 23 Dec 1844
Baptism year 1845
Baptism date 19 Jan 1845
Baptism place Camberley Royal Military College
Relationship Son
Father's first name(s) Robert
Mother's first name(s) Margaret
Parent's occupation College Servant
Residence Frimley, Ash
County Surrey

First name(s) Robert
Last name Rogers
Birth year -
Birth date 10 Oct ?
Baptism year 1842
Baptism date 06 Nov 1842
Baptism place Camberley Royal Military College
Relationship Son
Father's first name(s) Robert
Mother's first name(s) Margaret
Parent's occupation College Servant
Residence Frimley near the Grand Lodge, R.M.C.
County Surrey
Country England
Record set Surrey Baptisms

First name(s) David
Last name Rogers
Birth year -
Baptism year 1840
Baptism date 23 Aug 1840
Baptism place Camberley Royal Military College
Relationship Son
Father's first name(s) Robert
Mother's first name(s) Rebecca
Parent's occupation Servant
Residence Sandhurst R.M.C.
County Surrey
Country England
Record set Surrey Baptisms

Could some one please give me the details shown for

Rogers David — — 1840 Surrey Baptisms Camberley Royal Military College, Surrey, England.

Your help would be very much appreciated.

Alan.