Genealogy Chat

Hi, could someone help in finding out who the above David Davies's parents were, please? I have his wife as Fanny(Fanni) E Williams married 1870 and having 10 children all born in Denbighshire, I have the names of the children but not all the information on them as they grew and left home except for John second son who was a servant in 1891 at Kimnel Park St George, Abergele. This I know as he married my great grand aunt Lydia Peacock daughter of the above David Davies in1901 in Betws yn Rhos, Denbighshire.
John and Lydia had 2 children Lydia and Winnie don't what happened to Winnie Davies. She seemed to have a disability of some kind when looking at old photos of her.
Any help with this will be so good thank you ;-)

This looks like the marriage:-

First name(s) David
Last name Davies
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1870
Registration month -

MarriageFinder ™
David Davies married one of these people

>>>>Fanny Williams<<<<, Ann Evans

District St. Asaph
District number -
County Denbighshire
Country Wales
Volume 11B
Volume as transcribed 11B
Page number 505
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

The certificate should give his father's name and occupation (if he knew his father).

There are four births for the name David Davies in 1844/1845 in St. Asaph Registration District (which covers St. George).

Not very helpfully the mother's maiden names for these four births are all very common surnames:-

Roberts
Williams
Jones
Hughes

If I was going to pick out one of them I would go with the birth where the mother's maiden name was Williams, as it could be that David married a cousin - however that is just a thought and can't be relied on.

Kath. x

Thank you for your help Kath Welsh surnames are so hard to get right. x

If this is David and Fanny in the 1871 census (possibly is as they are next door to a Williams family - possibly Fanny's parents), then David was maybe born 1842 or 1843, so a bit earlier than you thought.

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Ty Ucha, Abergele Hendregyda Ucha, St Asaph, Denbighshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

David Davies Head - Male 28 1843 - Denbighshire, Wales
Fanny Davies Wife - Female 21 1850 - Denbighshire, Wales
Robert Davies Son - Male 0 1871 - Denbighshire, Wales

Kath. x

These are all the David Davies births registered in St. Asaph 1844 +/- 2 years:-


Results:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
DAVIES, DAVID WILLIAMS
GRO Reference: 1842 M Quarter in ST ASAPH Volume 27 Page 228

DAVIES, DAVID JONES
GRO Reference: 1842 J Quarter in ST ASAPH Volume 27 Page 218

DAVIES, DAVID ROBERTS
GRO Reference: 1842 J Quarter in SAINT ASAPH Volume 27 Page 219

DAVIES, DAVID EVANS
GRO Reference: 1842 J Quarter in SAINT ASAPH Volume 27 Page 228

DAVIES, DAVID OWENS
GRO Reference: 1843 S Quarter in ST. ASAPH Volume 27 Page 207

DAVIES, DAVID PRICE
GRO Reference: 1843 D Quarter in ST ASAPH Volume 27 Page 215

DAVIES, DAVID ROBERTS
GRO Reference: 1844 M Quarter in ST. ASAPH UNION Volume 27 Page 236

DAVIES, DAVID WILLIAMS
GRO Reference: 1844 J Quarter in ST ASAPH Volume 27 Page 219

DAVIES, DAVID JONES
GRO Reference: 1844 S Quarter in ST ASAPH Volume 27 Page 215

DAVIES, DAVID HUGHES
GRO Reference: 1845 S Quarter in ST. ASAPH Volume 27 Page 209

DAVIES, DAVID JONES
GRO Reference: 1846 J Quarter in ST ASAPH Volume 27 Page 221

DAVIES, DAVID HAMMOND
GRO Reference: 1846 J Quarter in ST ASAPH Volume 27 Page 223

I really think you need the marriage certificate for his father's name.

Kath. x

This is a possibility for Winifred's death:-

First name(s) Winifred
Last name Davies
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1906
Age 29
Death quarter 4
Death year 1935
District Conway
County Caernarvonshire
Volume 11B
Page 562
Country Wales
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

Kath. x

You've done wonders Kath this certainly gives me a lot to go on with, and looking into Winifred will be the first thing I do. Many thanks for your quick response.

David Davis
England and Wales Census, 1851
Name: David Davis
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1851
Event Place: St George, Denbighshire, Wales
Registration District: Saint Asaph
Residence Note: In Village
Gender: Male
Age: 7
Occupation: Scholar
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birth Year (Estimated): 1844
Birthplace: St George, Denbighshire
Page Number: 9
Registration Number: HO107
Piece/Folio: 2507 / 8
Affiliate Record Type: Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
David Davis Head Male 36 Llanrwst, Denbighshire
Maria Davis Wife Female 33 St George, Denbighshire
John Davis Son Male 9 St George, Denbighshire
David Davis Son Male 7 St George, Denbighshire
Elizabeth Davis Daughter Female 4 St George, Denbighshire
Margaret Davis Daughter Female 0 St George, Denbighshire
Anne Davis Daughter Female 3

this could be the marriage for david and maria

Marriages Jun 1841 (>99%)
DAVIES David St Asaph 27 261 Scan available - click to view
EVANS Ann St Asaph 27 261 Scan available - click to view
HUGHES Thomas St Asaph 27 261 Scan available - click to view
Kenrick Mary St Asaph 27 261 Scan available - click to view
OWENS Samuel St Asaph 27 261 Scan available - click to view
ROBERTS Maria St Asaph 27 261

this could be maria's death

Deaths Dec 1896 (>99%)
Davies Maria 79 St. Asaph 11b 228

or this one

Deaths Mar 1899 (>99%)
Davies Maria 82 St. Asaph 11b 240

maria a widow in 1881

Maria Davies
England and Wales Census, 1881
Name: Maria Davies
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1881
Event Place: St George, Denbighshire, Wales
Registration District: St Asaph
Gender: Female
Age: 63
Marital Status (Original): Widow
Occupation: Farmer 14 Acres
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1818
Birthplace: Denbigh, Denbighshire, Wales
Page Number: 6
Registration Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 5530/22
Affiliate Record Type: Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Maria Davies Head Female 63 Denbigh, Denbighshire, Wales
Anne Davies Daughter Female 34 St George, Denbighshire, Wales
Abel Davies Son Male 25 St George, Denbighshire, Wales
George Davies Son Male 17 St George, Denbighshire, Wales
Joseph Davies Grand Son Male 10 St George, Denbighshire, Wales
Abel Davies Grand Son Male 5 St George, Denbighshire, Wales
John Jones Lodger Male 24 St Asaph, Flintshire, Wales

I've ordered birth cert for David & Fanny and death cert for Winnie so will see if that works out. The David & Maria sound promising so hopefully when the certificates come I might have more to go on. Such a shame mother's name doesn't appear on marriage certs only father.
Eira