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A big, big thank you to Kath, Shirley and ArgyllGran for all your help.

You have all given me more than a little information for me to dig a little deeper.

I appreciate your time. Best. x

Possible baptism of Ann Breedon:-

First name(s) Ann
Last name Breedon
Gender Female
Birth year 1798
Birth place -
Baptism year 1798
Baptism date 18 Mar 1798
Place Southwark
County Surrey
Country England
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Breedon
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Mother's last name Breedon
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

Kath. x

Possible marriage of George Nicholas's parents (if the baptism is the correct one):-

First name(s) George
Last name Cuming
Name note -
Marriage year 1823
Marriage date 21 Sep 1823
Marriage place Southwark
Spouse's first name(s) Ann
Spouse's last name Breedon
County Surrey
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages

Kath. x

Possible for George in the 1841 census:-

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Zoar Street, St Saviour, St Saviour Southwark, London & Surrey, England

George Cumming's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place

Thomas Phipps Male 35 1806 Surrey, England
Ann Phipps Female 30 1811 Surrey, England
Eliza Phipps Female 4 1837 Surrey, England
Maria Phipps Female 2 1839 Surrey, England
Sarah Strange Female 70 1771 -
Sarah Strange Female 45 1796 -
Ann Cumming Female 40 1801 Surrey, England
Ann Cumming Female 14 1827 Surrey, England
Emma Cumming Female 12 1829 Surrey, England
George Cumming Male 11 1830 Surrey, England<<<<<<
Henry Cumming Male 9 1832 Surrey, England
Alfred Cumming Male 4 1837 Surrey, England

Kath. x

George's baptism? :-

First name(s) George Nicholas
Last name Cuming
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1829
Baptism date 08 Feb 1829
Place Lambeth
County Surrey
Country England
Father's first name(s) George
Father's last name Cuming
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

Kath. x

Just a maybe ??


Ann Carroll
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Ann Carroll
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Hundred: Brixton (Eastern Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Lambeth Church Second
Neighbors:
Piece: 1058
Book: 5
Folio: 6
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
William Carroll 40
William Carroll 15
James Carroll 13
Ann Carroll 11
Richard Carroll 9
Jane Carroll 7
Emily Carroll 5

???

Honora Carroll
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Honora Carroll
Registration Year: 1851
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: St George Southwark
Inferred County: London
Volume: 4
Page: 463
Records on Page:
Name

Heanora Carroll
Honora Carroll
George Cuming
George Cumins

think whoever reg her death thought she was Ann Norah rather than Honora !!

Name: Ann Norah Cuming
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Registration Year: 1894
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 60
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 43

George Nicholas Cummings
in the 1861 England Census
Name: George Nicholas Cummings
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: 1829
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Cummings
Gender: Male
Where born: Blackfriars, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Southwark St George the Martyr
Ecclesiastical parish: St George the Martyr
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: St George Southwark
Sub-registration district: Borough Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 236
Piece: 330
Folio: 173
Page Number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
George Nicholas Cummings 32
Ann Cummings 30
Henry Cummings 10
Ann Cummings 9
Julia Cummings 6
Emma Cummings 4
Alfred Cummings 2
Emily Flinn 23
Sophia Singer 14

Birth of son George:

CUMMING, GEORGE NICHOLAS mms CARROLL
GRO Reference: 1870 S Quarter in SAINT SAVIOUR SURREY Volume 01D Page 50

I can't see any marriage of the parents.

Name: Harriett Matilda Bond widow
[Harriett Matilda Cuming]
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 38
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1862
Marriage Date: 19 Nov 1900
Marriage Place: St Mary, Lambeth, Lambeth, England
Father: George Nicholas Cuming deceased occ decorator
Spouse: Charles Morton
Register Type: Parish Register

Name: Harriett Matilda Cuming
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1863
Marriage Date: 3 Jul 1882
Marriage Place: St Mark, Walworth, Southwark, England
Father: George Nicholas Cuming deceased occ house decorator
Spouse: Henry Farrell
Register Type: Parish Register


Name: Harriet Matilda Farrell
[Harriet Matilda Cuming]
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 27
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1864
Marriage Date: 19 Apr 1891
Marriage Place: St Philip, Lambeth, Lambeth, England
Father: George Nicholas Cuming deceased occ house decoraror
Spouse: William Edward Bond
Register Type: Parish Register

death

CUMING, GEORGE NICHOLAS 41
GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in ST SAVIOUR SURREY Volume 01D Page 100

julia names him on her marriage
George Nicholas Cummings

in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 No Image
Text-only collection



Name: George Nicholas Cummings
Gender: Male
Child: Julia Cummings

Thank you everyone. I have to go and start lunch now. :-(

I appreciate all your input. Will look on this thread later on today, but thanks in advance for any information you may turn up.

Grateful.

Harriet,s birth

CUMMING, HARRIET CARROLL
GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in ST GEORGE SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 144

Possible birth for Emma:-

CUMMING, EMMA MARY - CARROLL
GRO Reference: 1857 D Quarter in ST. GEORGE THE MARTYR SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 140

Kath. x

Thank you again Kath.

Possible birth for Alfred:-

CUMMING, ALFRED THOMAS - CARROLL
GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in ST GEORGE SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 141

Kath. x

Coming thick and fast. Thank you.

Thanks AG yes indeed that is the family. Just spelt wrong.

Thanks again Shirley.

Possible for Julia's birth:-

CUMMING, JULIA ANN ROPER - CARROLL
GRO Reference: 1855 J Quarter in SAINT SAVIOUR SURREY Volume 01D Page 13

Kath. x

Ann is the mother's name in 1871, per the census I posted above.