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margaret
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3 Mar 2020 22:27 |
I have revived a paper copy of a birth registration for a Margaret Booth born 25/05/1838 in Cheetham , ( Manchester ), County of Lancaster. CHE/1/42.
A daughter of a Joseph Booth, calico printer of John Street, Cheetham and his wife Alice Thompson, registered at Cheetham on 06/07/1838 .
I cannot find this birth or father on the Family Search Org site nor in the census for 1841 or 1851.
Have I missed it.? :-S
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greyghost
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3 Mar 2020 22:36 |
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro - free to use but you need to register
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: BOOTH, MARGARET THOMPSON GRO Reference: 1838 S Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 20 Page 473
MMN not shown on lancsbmd site Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1838 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference BOOTH Margaret 1838 Cheetham Archives+, Manchester Central Library CHE/1/42
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greyghost
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3 Mar 2020 22:37 |
Possible for Margaret - Cheetham area Death
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1840 Surname Forename(s) Age or Date of Birth Year Sub-District Registers At Reference BOOTH Margaret 2 1840 Cheetham Archives+, Manchester Central Library CHE/2/61
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greyghost
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3 Mar 2020 22:46 |
Probably not uncommon surnames but are any of these births a possibility
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: BOOTH, CATHARINE THOMPSON GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 20 Page 540
BOOTH, GRACE THOMPSON GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 20 Page 540
BOOTH, HANNAH THOMPSON GRO Reference: 1840 M Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 20 Page 601
Catherine and Grace (probably twins) are shown on lancs bmd as born Cheetham (no mmn showing) Hannah mmn Thompson in sub district of Saint George
A Grace Booth dies aged 0 1840 Cheetham a Hannah Booth dies 1840 aged 0 Saint George - both show on lancsbmd site
So probably no help
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greyghost
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3 Mar 2020 22:52 |
Could this be a possibility?
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1841 Surname Forename(s) Age or Date of Birth Year Sub-District Registers At Reference
BOOTH Joseph 34 1841 Cheetham Archives+, Manchester Central Library
Not showing on the GRO index.
Freebmd has a Joseph Booth death Dec Qtr 1841 Manchester RD .
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ErikaH
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4 Mar 2020 09:24 |
Familysearch is an American-based site.
If you want English bmd info, use freebmd or the GRO site, or, in this case, Lancsbmd
And please return to the most recent of your threads about the name Booth
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1381922
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ErikaH
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4 Mar 2020 11:48 |
Name: Joseph Booth Gender: Male Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 17 Jun 1830 Parish: Church Kirk, Lancashire, England Spouse: Alice Thompson
BUT - the man being sought in all the other threads is a JAMES Booth
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ErikaH
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4 Mar 2020 18:23 |
The Margaret in question is this one
Name: Margaret Booth Gender: Female Marriage Age: 22 Event Type: Marriage Birth Year: abt 1839 Marriage Date: 18 Jan 1861 Marriage Place: Manchester, St Philip, Manchester, England Father: James Booth - Fine Spinner Spouse: George Massey
1861 Name: Margreat Massey Age: 23 Estimated birth year: 1838 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: George Massey Gender: Female Where born: Manchester Civil Parish: Manchester Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip Town: Manchester County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Manchester Sub-registration district: Ancoats ED, institution, or vessel: 53 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 91 Piece: 2937 Folio: 59 Page Number: 20 Household Members: Name Age George Massey 26 Margreat Massey 23
I have no doubt this has been posted before, but people don't always want to have to trawl through countless threads to find relevant info
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margaret
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5 Mar 2020 15:27 |
Thank you for this - I did not know how to find previous threads!
As rightly said I am looking for the history of James Booth, who appears in the Slater's Trade Directory and The Manchester Poor Rate Books, -1858-1863 -but does not appears in the Census.for 1851 /1861. (as a Spinner)
It seems that the 1851 census for Manchester was badly damaged in floods and only part of the collection is available, so that might be the problem.
I bought the certificate for the birth in 1838 for a , Margaret Booth Born In Manchester.- as she has stated on census returns she completed. -1861/1871
There are two that come up on the LancBMD - one HUL/8/48 in 1841 whose father is John Booth engineer, And the other 1841 -LRD/9/98 whose mother is named Sandham., and whose father i cannot trace. without buying another certificate.
There is no entry on LancBMD for 1840 for a Margaret Booth.
I am not sure how to find - if possible more on the James Booth. Fine Spinner,, of Ancoats. - B?M?D?.
thank you for your interests. and suggestions.
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margaret
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5 Mar 2020 15:33 |
For information only , I should add that on the FSO site the 1861 census shows George & Margaret MASSEY named as George MASLEY and his wife as MARSHALL MASLEY.
Obviously corrected site of the census owner.. and perhaps other sites.?.
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ErikaH
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5 Mar 2020 16:23 |
You must take into account that until 1875 there were no penalties for not registering births, so Margaret's may simply not exist
Also, the birth year on a census is an ESTIMATE - based on the person's declared age at that specific date.
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ErikaH
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9 Mar 2020 11:53 |
Can't see anyone named Booth at Every St in 1861
And the witnesses to Margaret's marriage to George were not apparently related to either of the couple
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ArgyllGran
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9 Mar 2020 12:17 |
Margaret -
to find your previous threads, click on "My Threads" under "Tools" at the left side of this page.
Then click on "My Threads - Started" at the top of the resulting list.
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ArgyllGran
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9 Mar 2020 12:23 |
I'm confused - you say, "There is no entry on LancBMD for 1840 for a Margaret Booth."
But in the rest of the thread you've been talking about an 1838 birth. Have I missed something?
Greyghost posted a LancsBMD 1838 birth - although that seems to be the daughter of Joseph, who is not who you're looking for..
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ErikaH
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9 Mar 2020 12:55 |
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1375783
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1375714
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1377052
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ErikaH
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9 Mar 2020 13:01 |
On one of the many other threads, OP refers to Every St, Ancoats. This is not correct
The correct info from the marriage cert is Every St, All Souls.
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