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6 Aug 2020 18:45 |
I have found my Kelly line at Canty bay in the 1841 census.
Is there any way I can find out where they came from: 1841 Scottish Census Parish Number 731
Address Canty Bay - Occupation Fisherman Ages James Kelly abt 1801 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 40 Janet Kelly nee Hogg abt 1811 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 30 Elizabeth Kelly abt 1824 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 17 John Kelly abt 1826 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 15 Janet Kelly abt 1828 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 13 Cathraine Kelly abt 1831 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 10 Mary Kelly abt 1833 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 8 Margaret Kelly abt 1835 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 6 George Kelly abt 1837 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 5
Address Canty Bay - Occupation Fisherman
Elizabeth Kelly nee Hogg abt 1806 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 35 John Kelly abt 1811 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 30 Janet Kelly abt 1831 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 10 James Kelly abt 1836 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 5 Elizabeth Kelly abt 1838 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 3
Address Canty Bay - Occupation Fisherman
James Kelly abt 1776 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian Age 65 Mary Kelly abt 1811 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian Age 30 Richard Kelly abt 1811 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian Age 30 Robert Kelly abt 1816 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian Age 25 James Kelly abt 1836 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian Age 5 Ellen Kelly abt 1838 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian Age 3 Isabellia Kelly abt 1840 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian Age1
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ErikaH
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6 Aug 2020 19:13 |
Look for them in 1851, when the birthplaces will be recorded
It looks from the 1841 you’ve posted as though they were all born in East Lothian
OR - look at Scotland’s People website for baptisms, marriages etc
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6 Aug 2020 19:22 |
Unable to look at any originals unless using Scotland's People - this from FMP which gives county of birth to help look in future census
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Cantybay, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place James Kelly Male 40 1801 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Janet Kelly Female 30 1811 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Elizabeth Kelly Female 17 1824 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland John Kelly Male 15 1826 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Janet Kelly Female 13 1828 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Cathraine Kelly Female 10 1831 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Mary Kelly Female 8 1833 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Margaret Kelly Female 6 1835 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland George Kelly Male 4 1837 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
------------------ 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Cantybay, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place John Kelly Male 30 1811 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Elizabeth Kelly Female 35 1806 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Janet Kelly Female 10 1831 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland James Kelly Male 5 1836 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Elizabeth Kelly Female 3 1838 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
---------------- 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Cantybay, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place James Kelly Male 65 1776 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Richard Kelly Male 30 1811 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Mary Kelly Female 30 1811 Scotland James Kelly Male 5 1836 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Ellen Kelly Female 3 1838 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Isabellia Kelly Female 1 1840 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Robert Kelly Male 25 1816 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
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greyghost
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6 Aug 2020 19:23 |
?? 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Thomsons Close, Dunbar, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Agnes Friend Head Unmarried Female 30 1821 Farm Laborer Dunbar, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Richard Kelly Lodger Unmarried Male 43 1808 Coal Porter Dunbar, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Helen Kelly Daughter - Female 14 1837 Scholar Dunbar, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
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6 Aug 2020 19:48 |
?? 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census 64, Broughton Street, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John W Fowler Head Unmarried Male 32 1819 Builder Employs 41 Men Firm Of 2 Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Alexander G Fowler Brother Unmarried Male 27 1824 Builder In Compy Firm Of 2 Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Ann G Fowler Sister Unmarried Female 35 1816 Domestic Duties Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Janet Kelly Servant Unmarried Female 20 1831 Servant Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
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6 Aug 2020 19:54 |
?? 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Glen Cottage, Duddingston, Midlothian, Scotland
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Handasyde Head Married Male 45 1806 Nursery & Seedsman Master England Mary Ann Handasyde Wife Married Female 35 1816 - England Mary Ann Handasyde Daughter - Female 12 1839 Scholar Inveresk, Midlothian, Scotland Hannah E Handasyde Daughter - Female 11 1840 Scholar Duddingston, Midlothian, Scotland Catherine Handasyde Daughter - Female 9 1842 Scholar Duddingston, Midlothian, Scotland Thomas Handasyde Son - Male 6 1845 Scholar Duddingston, Midlothian, Scotland George H Handasyde Son - Male 4 1847 - Duddingston, Midlothian, Scotland Archibald Handasyde Son - Male 3 1848 - Duddingston, Midlothian, Scotland Charles H Handasyde Son - Male 1 1850 - Duddingston, Midlothian, Scotland Christina Aitken Visitor - Female 13 1838 - Inveresk, Midlothian, Scotland Catherine Kelly Servant Unmarried Female 20 1831 House Servant North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Jessie Forrest Servant Unmarried Female 20 1831 House Servant Inveresk, Midlothian, Scotland
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greyghost
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6 Aug 2020 19:57 |
?? 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Old Waughton, Prestonkirk, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Forrest Head Married Male 44 1807 Market Gardener North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Jane Forrest Wife Married Female 37 1814 - Spott, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Thomas Forrest Son Unmarried Male 15 1836 Scholar Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Ann Forrest Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1838 Scholar Dirleton, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Marrion Forrest Daughter - Female 10 1841 Scholar Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Alexander Forrest Son - Male 8 1843 Scholar Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland George Forrest Son - Male 6 1845 Scholar Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Jean Forrest Daughter - Female 4 1847 - Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland John Forrest Son - Male 2 1849 - Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Janet Forrest Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland John Grassick Servant Unmarried Male 23 1828 Gardener Tranent, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Janet Kelly Servant Unmarried Female 22 1829 House Servant North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland Mary Watt Cousin Unmarried Female 35 1816 - North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland George Watt Visitor - Male 7 1844 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
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ArgyllGran
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6 Aug 2020 21:38 |
Re the John & Elizabeth couple in 1841 which you posted, Karen -
Baptisms of the children:
KELLY ELISABETH Parents: JOHN KELLY/ELISABETH HOGG FR1564 (FR1564) F 08/07/1838 713/ 60 150 North Berwick
KELLY JAMES JOHN KELLY/ELISABETH HOGG FR1552 (FR1552) M 16/08/1835 713/ 60 125 North Berwick
KELLY JANET JOHN KELLY/ELISABETH HOGG FR1526 (FR1526) F 02/01/1831 713/ 60 82 North Berwick
Also a son George, who's not with the family on the 1841 census:
KELLY GEORGE JOHN KELLY/ELISABETH HOGG 1538 M 05/05/1833 713/ 60 101 North Berwick
The parents' marriage:
KELLY JOHN ELISABETH HOGG/FR1690 (FR1690) 02/01/1829 713/ 70 27 North Berwick
You can view the original documents on ScotlandsPeople at a cost of 6 credits per document. Unfortunately, as these are old parish records, John & Elisabeth's parents are unlikely to be stated.
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safc
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7 Aug 2020 01:20 |
Marriage entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field (only fields with a value are shown) Value County East Lothian Place (Links to more information) North Berwick Church name (Links to more information) North Berwick Parish Church Register entry number 22 Marriage date 7 Dec 1822 Groom forename James Groom surname KELLY Groom parish North Berwick Groom condition Bachelor Bride forename Janet Bride surname HOGG Bride parish North Berwick Bride condition Spinster Notes Proclamation Transcribed by Margaret Macintosh File line number 34
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7 Aug 2020 11:14 |
1871 Name: George Kelly Age: 33 Estimated birth year: abt 1838 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Mary Kelly Gender: Male Where born: No Berwick, hadds Registration Number: 713/1 Registration district: North Berwick Burgh Civil Parish: North Berwick Town: No Berwick County: East Lothian Address: Shore St Occupation: Fisherman ED: 2 Household schedule number: 163 Line: 11 Roll: CSSCT1871_173 Household Members: Name Age George Kelly 33 Mary Kelly 32 James Kelly 12 William Kelly 10 Janet Kelly 8 George Kelly 5 John Kelly 3 Richard Kelly 1 William Thomson 65
1861 Name: George Kelly Age: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1838 Relationship: Son-in-law Spouse's name : Mary Kelly Gender: Male Where born: No Berwick, haddn Registration Number: 713 Registration district: North Berwick Civil Parish: North Berwick Town: North Berwick County: East Lothian Address: 1 Harbour Occupation: Fisherman ED: 2 Household schedule number: 154 Line: 17 Roll: CSSCT1861_134 Household Members: Name Age William Thomson 55 George Kelly 23 Mary Kelly 23 James Kelly 2
1851 Name: George Kellie Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relationship: Son Mother: Janet Kellie Gender: Male Where born: No Berwick, Haddingtonshire Parish Number: 713 Civil Parish: North Berwick Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County: East Lothian Address: High Street Occupation: Errand Boy ED: 2 Page: 5 Household schedule number: 16 Line: 3 Roll: CSSCT1851_193 Household Members: Name Age Janet Kellie 48 Margret Kellie 41 George Kellie 12 Robert Kellie 8 Elizabeth Kellie 27 Janet Skead 4
Name: George Kelly Gender: Male Marriage Date: 20 May 1859 Marriage Place: North Berwick,East Lothian,Scotland Spouse: Mary Thomson FHL Film Number: 6035516
1851 Name: Mary Thomson Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1837 Relationship: Daughter Father: William Thomson Mother: Mary Buchan Gender: Female Where born: Tranent, haddingtonshire Parish Number: 722 Civil Parish: Tranent Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish Town: Cockenzie County: East Lothian Address: Lees Court Occupation: Servant ED: 12 Page: 9 Household schedule number: 40 Line: 9 Roll: CSSCT1851_194 Household Members: Name Age William Thomson 42 Mary Buchan 45 Alexander Thomson 20 Janet G Thomson 18 Mary Thomson 14 William Thomson 12 David Thomson 10 George Thomson 8 Ann Thomson 5 Archbald Thomson 2
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Kelly
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21 Aug 2021 18:51 |
I've just seen this thank you ALL so very very much :) :-)
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