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Kellys of Canty Bay - North Berwick

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Kelly

Kelly Report 6 Aug 2020 18:45

I have found my Kelly line at Canty bay in the 1841 census.

Is there any way I can find out where they came from:
1841 Scottish Census
Parish Number 731

Address Canty Bay - Occupation Fisherman Ages
James Kelly abt 1801 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 40
Janet Kelly nee Hogg abt 1811 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 30
Elizabeth Kelly abt 1824 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 17
John Kelly abt 1826 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 15
Janet Kelly abt 1828 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 13
Cathraine Kelly abt 1831 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 10
Mary Kelly abt 1833 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 8
Margaret Kelly abt 1835 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 6
George Kelly abt 1837 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 5


Address Canty Bay - Occupation Fisherman

Elizabeth Kelly nee Hogg abt 1806 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 35
John Kelly abt 1811 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 30
Janet Kelly abt 1831 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 10
James Kelly abt 1836 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 5
Elizabeth Kelly abt 1838 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian 3


Address Canty Bay - Occupation Fisherman

James Kelly abt 1776 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian Age 65
Mary Kelly abt 1811 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian Age 30
Richard Kelly abt 1811 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian Age 30
Robert Kelly abt 1816 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian Age 25
James Kelly abt 1836 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian Age 5
Ellen Kelly abt 1838 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian Age 3
Isabellia Kelly abt 1840 East Lothian, Scotland North Berwick East Lothian Age1

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Aug 2020 19:13

Look for them in 1851, when the birthplaces will be recorded

It looks from the 1841 you’ve posted as though they were all born in East Lothian


OR - look at Scotland’s People website for baptisms, marriages etc

greyghost

greyghost Report 6 Aug 2020 19:22

Unable to look at any originals unless using Scotland's People - this from FMP which gives county of birth to help look in future census

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Cantybay, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
James Kelly Male 40 1801 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Janet Kelly Female 30 1811 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Elizabeth Kelly Female 17 1824 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
John Kelly Male 15 1826 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Janet Kelly Female 13 1828 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Cathraine Kelly Female 10 1831 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Mary Kelly Female 8 1833 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Margaret Kelly Female 6 1835 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
George Kelly Male 4 1837 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland

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1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Cantybay, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
John Kelly Male 30 1811 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Elizabeth Kelly Female 35 1806 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Janet Kelly Female 10 1831 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
James Kelly Male 5 1836 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Elizabeth Kelly Female 3 1838 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland

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1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Cantybay, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
James Kelly Male 65 1776 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Richard Kelly Male 30 1811 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Mary Kelly Female 30 1811 Scotland
James Kelly Male 5 1836 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Ellen Kelly Female 3 1838 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Isabellia Kelly Female 1 1840 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Robert Kelly Male 25 1816 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland




greyghost

greyghost Report 6 Aug 2020 19:23

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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Thomsons Close, Dunbar, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Agnes Friend Head Unmarried Female 30 1821 Farm Laborer Dunbar, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Richard Kelly Lodger Unmarried Male 43 1808 Coal Porter Dunbar, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Helen Kelly Daughter - Female 14 1837 Scholar Dunbar, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland

greyghost

greyghost Report 6 Aug 2020 19:48

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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
64, Broughton Street, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John W Fowler Head Unmarried Male 32 1819 Builder Employs 41 Men Firm Of 2 Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Alexander G Fowler Brother Unmarried Male 27 1824 Builder In Compy Firm Of 2 Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Ann G Fowler Sister Unmarried Female 35 1816 Domestic Duties Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Janet Kelly Servant Unmarried Female 20 1831 Servant Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland

greyghost

greyghost Report 6 Aug 2020 19:54

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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Glen Cottage, Duddingston, Midlothian, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Handasyde Head Married Male 45 1806 Nursery & Seedsman Master England
Mary Ann Handasyde Wife Married Female 35 1816 - England
Mary Ann Handasyde Daughter - Female 12 1839 Scholar Inveresk, Midlothian, Scotland
Hannah E Handasyde Daughter - Female 11 1840 Scholar Duddingston, Midlothian, Scotland
Catherine Handasyde Daughter - Female 9 1842 Scholar Duddingston, Midlothian, Scotland
Thomas Handasyde Son - Male 6 1845 Scholar Duddingston, Midlothian, Scotland
George H Handasyde Son - Male 4 1847 - Duddingston, Midlothian, Scotland
Archibald Handasyde Son - Male 3 1848 - Duddingston, Midlothian, Scotland
Charles H Handasyde Son - Male 1 1850 - Duddingston, Midlothian, Scotland
Christina Aitken Visitor - Female 13 1838 - Inveresk, Midlothian, Scotland
Catherine Kelly Servant Unmarried Female 20 1831 House Servant North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Jessie Forrest Servant Unmarried Female 20 1831 House Servant Inveresk, Midlothian, Scotland

greyghost

greyghost Report 6 Aug 2020 19:57

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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Old Waughton, Prestonkirk, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Forrest Head Married Male 44 1807 Market Gardener North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Jane Forrest Wife Married Female 37 1814 - Spott, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Thomas Forrest Son Unmarried Male 15 1836 Scholar Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Ann Forrest Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1838 Scholar Dirleton, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Marrion Forrest Daughter - Female 10 1841 Scholar Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Alexander Forrest Son - Male 8 1843 Scholar Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
George Forrest Son - Male 6 1845 Scholar Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Jean Forrest Daughter - Female 4 1847 - Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
John Forrest Son - Male 2 1849 - Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Janet Forrest Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
John Grassick Servant Unmarried Male 23 1828 Gardener Tranent, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Janet Kelly Servant Unmarried Female 22 1829 House Servant North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Mary Watt Cousin Unmarried Female 35 1816 - North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
George Watt Visitor - Male 7 1844 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Aug 2020 21:38

Re the John & Elizabeth couple in 1841 which you posted, Karen -

Baptisms of the children:

KELLY
ELISABETH
Parents: JOHN KELLY/ELISABETH HOGG FR1564 (FR1564)
F
08/07/1838
713/
60 150
North Berwick


KELLY
JAMES
JOHN KELLY/ELISABETH HOGG FR1552 (FR1552)
M
16/08/1835
713/
60 125
North Berwick

KELLY
JANET
JOHN KELLY/ELISABETH HOGG FR1526 (FR1526)
F
02/01/1831
713/
60 82
North Berwick


Also a son George, who's not with the family on the 1841 census:

KELLY
GEORGE
JOHN KELLY/ELISABETH HOGG 1538
M
05/05/1833
713/
60 101
North Berwick



The parents' marriage:

KELLY
JOHN
ELISABETH HOGG/FR1690 (FR1690)
02/01/1829
713/
70 27
North Berwick


You can view the original documents on ScotlandsPeople at a cost of 6 credits per document.
Unfortunately, as these are old parish records, John & Elisabeth's parents are unlikely to be stated.

safc

safc Report 7 Aug 2020 01:20

Marriage entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field
(only fields with a value are shown) Value
County East Lothian
Place (Links to more information) North Berwick
Church name (Links to more information) North Berwick Parish Church
Register entry number 22
Marriage date 7 Dec 1822
Groom forename James
Groom surname KELLY
Groom parish North Berwick
Groom condition Bachelor
Bride forename Janet
Bride surname HOGG
Bride parish North Berwick
Bride condition Spinster
Notes Proclamation
Transcribed by Margaret Macintosh
File line number 34

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 Aug 2020 11:14

1871
Name: George Kelly
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary Kelly
Gender: Male
Where born: No Berwick, hadds
Registration Number: 713/1
Registration district: North Berwick Burgh
Civil Parish: North Berwick
Town: No Berwick
County: East Lothian
Address: Shore St
Occupation: Fisherman
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 163
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1871_173
Household Members:
Name Age
George Kelly 33
Mary Kelly 32
James Kelly 12
William Kelly 10
Janet Kelly 8
George Kelly 5
John Kelly 3
Richard Kelly 1
William Thomson 65

1861
Name: George Kelly
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relationship: Son-in-law
Spouse's name : Mary Kelly
Gender: Male
Where born: No Berwick, haddn
Registration Number: 713
Registration district: North Berwick
Civil Parish: North Berwick
Town: North Berwick
County: East Lothian
Address: 1 Harbour
Occupation: Fisherman
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 154
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1861_134
Household Members:
Name Age
William Thomson 55
George Kelly 23
Mary Kelly 23
James Kelly 2

1851
Name: George Kellie
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relationship: Son
Mother: Janet Kellie
Gender: Male
Where born: No Berwick, Haddingtonshire
Parish Number: 713
Civil Parish: North Berwick
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County: East Lothian
Address: High Street
Occupation: Errand Boy
ED: 2
Page: 5
Household schedule number: 16
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1851_193
Household Members:
Name Age
Janet Kellie 48
Margret Kellie 41
George Kellie 12
Robert Kellie 8
Elizabeth Kellie 27
Janet Skead 4


Name: George Kelly
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 20 May 1859
Marriage Place: North Berwick,East Lothian,Scotland
Spouse: Mary Thomson
FHL Film Number: 6035516

1851
Name: Mary Thomson
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relationship: Daughter
Father: William Thomson
Mother: Mary Buchan
Gender: Female
Where born: Tranent, haddingtonshire
Parish Number: 722
Civil Parish: Tranent
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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Town: Cockenzie
County: East Lothian
Address: Lees Court
Occupation: Servant
ED: 12
Page: 9
Household schedule number: 40
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1851_194
Household Members:
Name Age
William Thomson 42
Mary Buchan 45
Alexander Thomson 20
Janet G Thomson 18
Mary Thomson 14
William Thomson 12
David Thomson 10
George Thomson 8
Ann Thomson 5
Archbald Thomson 2

Kelly

Kelly Report 21 Aug 2021 18:51

I've just seen this thank you ALL so very very much :) :-)