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Doesn't Leonard know his sister's wheareabouts?

She was in Atherton until 2012, as per earlier post

That brings me back to the 2017 death in Wigan & Leigh RD which I posted earlier.

That's the RD for Atherton, and that's the only death of a Jean Smith of approximately the right age in that RD - ever, per GRO and FreeBMD.

I know she was born in 1922, and the death record says 1926, but maybe the informant didn't know that. Susan herself was under the impression that she was born c1925.

Of course she may not have remained in Atherton after her husband's death.

Name: Samuel Jenkinson Smith
Death Date: 5 Mar 1994
Death Place: Atherton Manchester
Probate Date: 13 Apr 1994
Probate Registry: Manchester
Address: 2, Allenby Street

Last sold Feb 2017

Jean is on the ER at the address up to 2012 - period of occupancy 11 years

You could start by getting a copy of her husband’s death cert, to see who the informant was.

It’s not impossible that she could be alive - but as she would be 98, there’s a good chance that she isn’t

Look for deaths on the GRO site

We would look at the Electoral Rolls - and have done so - and you can too, under "Search" at top right of this page.

However, there are loads of Jean Smiths all over the place. Even if you limit the search to Lancashire, on the assumption that she might still live there, there are still lots of entries for that name.

Thank you so much for all of this information it has been such a big help. Does anyone know what sites/how I can find out if Jean is still alive?

1939
78 Wales Road, Kiveton Park, Kiveton Park R.D., Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Leonard J Moorhouse 09 Aug 1896 Male Colliery Hewer Heavy Wor Married 33 1
Lily Moorhouse 21 Jul 1900 Female Unpaid Dd Married 33 2
2 closed records

Thanks, Rose.

Susan,

You're a little off with the birth years for their parents. Use FreeBMD to find them.

Births Sep 1896
Moorhouse James Leonard N. Bierley 9b 221

Deaths Sep 1977
MOORHOUSE LEONARD JAMES 8AU1896 ROTHERHAM 3 677

Births Sep 1900
HAYDOCK Lily Worksop 7b 39



Rose

AG,

From Susan's tree, her uncle is Leonard Moorhouse born in 1933 in Kiveton Park.. MMN was Haydock.

Rose

Rose -
why do you think that's Jean's birth in 1922?
Perhaps I haven't picked up on a clue somewhere.

Assuming she was born in the same area where she married, then she was born in the West Riding of Yorkshire.
Rother Valley was Rotherham RD at the time of her birth.

She wasn't born in Rotherham RD.
In the West Riding as a whole, as well as that 1922 birth, there's also one in 1921 in Bradford, and one in 1928 in Burnley.

If she had a middle name, which hasn't been suggested so far, then there are another couple of options.

If she wasn't born in Yorkshire, there's a 1925 birth in Lewisham.

Jenkinson was Samuel’s second forename - not part of a double-barrelled surname

She's actually born in 1922:

Births Sep 1922
Moorhouse Jean Haydock Worksop 7b 89

Rose

The marriage:-

First name(s) JEAN
Last name MOORHOUSE
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1943
Registration month -
MarriageFinder ™

JEAN MOORHOUSE married one of these people

Samuel J Smith

Spouse's last name Smith
District Rother Valley
District number -
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9C
Volume as transcribed 9C
Page number 1658
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

The certificate should name her father (if she knew him) and would make it easier to find the family in the 1939 register.

Kath. x

Welcome to the boards, Susan.

Alviegal's question about Jean's mother's maiden name is essential if we are to find her death (which is very likely if she was born around 1925.)

There were several Jean Moorhouses born in the West Riding around that time (assuming she was born near where she married) , and picking out one particular death of a Jean Smith without an accurate year of birth is impossible.

It might be impossible in any case, as it's such a common name.
Do you know if she remained in Atherton after her husband's death?
Or perhaps she died before Samuel?


If she did stay at least in the nearby area, there's this possible death in 2017 - but unfortunately no way to know if that's her or not without buying a copy of the death cert.

SMITH, JEAN 1926
GRO Reference: DOR Q4/2017 in Wigan And Leigh (018-1A) Entry Number 516526153


ADDED:
actually, that's the only death of a Jean Smith (born c1925) in the Leigh registration district 1938-2019 .

But there's no birth of a Jean Moorhouse without middle name in the West Riding in 1926.

What was Jean's mother's maiden name? You can find out when she was born on https://www.freebmd.org.uk

So I think this is his death. Their marriage was in 1943 Rother Valley.

SAMUEL JENKINSON
Last name SMITH
Gender Male
Birth day 22
Birth month 4
Birth year 1914
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1994
District Leigh
District number 0171
Register number A72
Entry number 197
Date of registration mm/yy 0394

Searching for uncles sister jean Moorhouse. Married name jenkinson-Smith born around 1925. She was married to Samuel Jenkinson-Smith and lived in atherton, Manchester