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16 Feb 2021 15:47 |
He would probably have been regarded as a Prussian rather than a German.
I think the Prussians fought against Napoleon.
Looks like a lot more research on Prussian so,diets needs to be done.
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ErikaH
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16 Feb 2021 15:29 |
No such things as as certs before July 1837.............
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Pebbles13
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16 Feb 2021 14:38 |
Thank you for your help. I don't know a lot about the Napoleonic wars. I'd heard there were French POWs but hadn't heard much about Germans. Would it help maybe if I bought his marriage certificate, maybe his parent's names will be on there?
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6 Feb 2021 20:27 |
You ask, "Any ideas why he was a prisoner of war? What battle was it?"
In your opening post you said he'd been in the Napoleonic War. That's probably correct. The Napoleonic Wars consisted of several different battles.
Several to choose from - probably impossible to find out exactly which one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars:_1800%E2%80%931899
I don't think you'l be able to find out who his parents were without knowing exactly where he was born.
Info here: https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Germany_Genealogy https://www.cyndislist.com/germany/bmd/
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Pebbles13
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6 Feb 2021 19:00 |
Thanks all for your help. He was definitely married to Elizabeth Peach. I know his son was Thomas Hoffman as that's my line to him, I'm guessing Sarah, John and Anthony were their other children. Any ideas why he was a prisoner of war? What battle was it? And any ideas how I can find who his parents were? Thanks so much :-)
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ArgyllGran
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1 Feb 2021 21:39 |
He's in several trees on Ancestry, each with a lot of guesswork and not much proof of anything..
Notes on one tree - tree owner sarahaclarke:
DAnthonyHoffman: Notes are by D.A. Hoffman: This information comes to us from his granddaughter Ann Cartlidge (nee Stanford) who would probably be 20 years old when Anthony Joseph Hoffman died (Anthony died very close to Ann’s 21st birthday). He told this story against himself (and the fact that he tells this story indicates that he is honest but has an excess of self-confidence). He said that his fellow townsmen appointed him treasurer of a local sick club (this would be a voluntary unpaid job). But he failed to keep his books in proper order and there was a shortage of funds. At a meeting of the officials of the club, held to clear up the confusion, the treasurer was asked to explain matters. His explanations only made the confusion worse compounded; and the officials now growing indignant did not omit to tell him so. “I can’t help it being wrong,” he replied, smiling in his most engaging manner, “the book says so.”. And then a brilliant idea, which may be recommended to treasurers in a tight corner, flashed into his mind. “My dear frints, I vill dell you vat vee vill do; vee vill burn all de books oont settle de aggounts vit our headpieces”. These words in italics are quoted from “The story of Ashby-de-la-Zouche” by W. Scott, published in 1907 by George Brown Ashby-de-la-Zouche. My copy of this book was bought by Ivy my mother on 21 December 1939. Antony Joseph Hoffmann married Elizabeth Peach nine months after his arrival in Ashby-de-la-Zouch. The marriage took place at Saint Helen’s Church. The marriage certificate shows the change of the spelling of his name. The date is 14th May 1810 "Antony Joseph Hoffmann" is my ancestor's clearly written signature on his wedding certificate (in Ashby-de-la-Zouch to a six-month pregnant illiterate English girl very much younger than he - possibly 17 years his junior). But officialdom is already there, because the marriage certificate of this "French Prisoner of War" starts off by saying that he is "Anthony Joseph Hoffman n" - the last "n" is out of line and is detached - clearly a late addition (there wasn’t much the official could do about the “h” in Anthony). Thereafter the grandfather of my great grandfather was always officially "Anthony" and "Hoffman". 11 years ago
DAnthonyHoffman : Waterloo is impossible: The Battle of Waterloo was 18 June 1815. Three of Anthony's children were born (in Ashby de la Zouch) by then. For a better account "Search" for
Anthony Hoffman 1772 ± 0 then look at Public Members Stories Posted 10 years ago
DAnthonyHoffman : Waterloo is quite impossible: Waterloo was in 1815, by which time Antonij was married and had three English born children . Posted 8 years ago.
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ArgyllGran
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1 Feb 2021 21:23 |
??? His stated age at death isn't necessarily accurate, as is the case even nowadays.
Anton Josef Hoffmann in the Mainz, Germany, Church Index Cards, 1585-1807 Name: Anton Josef Hoffmann Birth Date: 3 Mai 1771 (3 May 1771) Birth Parish: Sankt Emmeran Birth Place: Mainz, Rheinland-Pfalz (Rhineland-Palatinate), Deutschland (Germany) Father Name: Matheus Hoffmann Mother Name: Elisabeth Hoffmann
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Antonius Josephus Hoffmann in the Germany, Select Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898 Name: Antonius Josephus Hoffmann Gender: Male Baptism Age: 0 Birth Date: 5. Apr 1770 (5 Apr 1770) Birth Place: Heidelberg, Heidelberg, Baden Baptism Date: 5. Apr 1770 (5 Apr 1770) Baptism Place: Heidelberg, Baden, Germany Residence Place: Heidelberg, Baden, Germany Father: Phillippi Hoffmann Mother: Margarethae Helbmajerin FHL Film Number: 1053581
As you don't know exactly where he was born, it's impossible to know if either of these is him. Possibly neither - his baptism record may not have survived.
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malyon
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1 Feb 2021 19:14 |
John Hoffman England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: John Hoffman Event Type: Christening Event Date: 15 Feb 1815 Event Place: Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): Ashby de la Zouch, Leicester, England Sex: Male Father's Name: Anthony Hoffman Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Thomas Hoffman England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Thomas Hoffman Event Type: Christening Event Date: 5 May 1820 Event Place: Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): Ashby de la Zouch, Leicester, England Sex: Male Father's Name: Anthony Hoffman Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Anthony Hoffman England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Anthony Hoffman Event Type: Christening Event Date: 21 Nov 1817 Event Place: Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): Ashby de la Zouch, Leicester, England Sex: Male Father's Name: Anthony Hoffman Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Sarah Hoffman England, Leicestershire Parish Registers, 1533-1991
Name: Sarah Hoffman Event Type: Baptism Event Date: 10 Jan 1813 Event Place: Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): Leicestershire,England,Ashby de la Zouch, St Helen's Religion: Anglican Baptism Date: 10 Jan 1813 Father's Name: Anthony Mother's Name: Elizabeth Page Number: 1
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malyon
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1 Feb 2021 18:53 |
vent Place: Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): Ashby De La Zouch, Leicestershire, England County: Leicestershire Parish: Ashby De La Zouch Registration District: Ashby De La Zouch Union Residence Note: Green Sex: Male Age: 25 Age (Original): 25 Birth Year (Estimated): 1812-1816 Birthplace: Leicestershire Page Number: 15 Registration Number: HO107 Piece/Folio: 594/28 Affiliate Record Type: Household Affiliate Image Identifier: GBC/1841/0594/0086&parentid=GBC/1841/0005910791 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Elizabeth Hoffman Female 50 Leicestershire John Hoffman Male 25 Leicestershire Lucy Pegg Female 25 Leicestershire
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malyon
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1 Feb 2021 18:41 |
Elizabeth Hoffman England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
Name: Elizabeth Hoffman Event Type: Death Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration Year: 1847 Registration District: Ashby De La Zouch County: Leicestershire Event Place: Ashby De La Zouch, Leicestershire, England Volume: 15 Affiliate Line Number: 37
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malyon
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1 Feb 2021 18:29 |
Anthony Joseph Hoffman England, Leicestershire Parish Registers, 1533-1991 Name: Anthony Joseph Hoffman Event Type: Burial Event Date: 16 Mar 1851 Event Place: Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): Leicestershire,England,Ashby de la Zouch, St Helen's Age: 78 Religion: Anglican Page Number: 136 Record Number: GBPRS/LEICS/BUR/00675464
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malyon
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1 Feb 2021 18:26 |
Anthony Joseph Hoffmann England, Leicestershire Parish Registers, 1533-1991 Name: Anthony Joseph Hoffmann Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 14 May 1810 Event Place: Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): Leicestershire,England,Ashby de la Zouch, St Helen's Residence Place: French Prisoner of War, Ashby de la Zouch Sex: Male Religion: Anglican Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Peach Spouse's Residence Place: Ashby de la Zouch Record Number: GBPRS/LEICS/MAR/00298029/1 Affiliate Image Identifier: http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=S2/GBPRS/LEICS/15-0818-GB-LEC-ASHBY-DE-LA-ZOUCH-ST-HE-DE1013-12-MARRIAGES-1796-1812/00094
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malyon
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1 Feb 2021 18:25 |
Anthony Joseph Hoffmann England Marriages, 1538–1973 Name: Anthony Joseph Hoffmann Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 14 May 1810 Event Place: Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): Ashby de la Zouch, Leicester, England Sex: Male Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Peach Spouse's Sex: Female
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Pebbles13
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1 Feb 2021 17:38 |
Hi, I am a bit stuck as to where to look now as my ggggrandfather, Anthony Joseph Hoffman, was born in Germany in 1773. He was a lieutenant in the Napoleonic war, became a prisoner of war and was moved to Ashby De La Zouch in Leicestershire. He married an English lady. I am wanting to find his parents or anything else about him. Thank you in advance.
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