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Thank you gray ghost and everyone else
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I tracked this family back for Lisa by PM ages ago and sent pages of information, unfortunately not reflected well in her online tree.
But no, I wasn't able to determine Matilda's place of birth, nor to go back with any certainty from Matilda's husband John Disley (Disley, Dizley, Dishley, Disby).
Lisa's Grandfather James Disley b 1897 was baptised by his Mother Alice, no Father mentioned and GRO has births for him and brother George Wm 1894 as Disley no mmn. Father may have been an Edward Waddington (he and Alice eventually married 1906), but he himself looks to have been a 'colourful' person.
Alice Wallworth married Robert Disley 1875, but the records show he wasn't the Father. Alice appears to have had a complicated life.
Robert's parents were John Disley and Matilda McMinn who married 1844, so not actually related to Lisa.
I found McMinn spelt McMain, McMiin, McMines, McMeaon, McMahon, MacMin, MacMinn, Mackmann, Mane down the years in various records.
Matilda's place of birth varies Scotland, Ireland, Ince in Lancs,
Sister Mary (now Walmsley) born Scotland as per 1841/51
Brother Robert born and baptised Lancs.
Father Robert Ireland 1841 and 51, Lancs 1861
Father - Robert McMinn (various spellings) first married a Mary who died 1830 and then Martha Green whose daughter Alice married Robert Disley - John's brother.
Sister Mary married Thomas Walmsley and has siblings Matilda and Robert with her 1841 in Burnley.
Census appear to show the inter-relation between these various relatives
One of Lisa's previous threads -
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1391595?page=0
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Name: Robert Mcmin ??????
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 04 Jan 1793
Baptism Place: , Crossmichael, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
Father:
James Mcmin
Mother:
Agnes Mcclure
FHL Film Number: 1067974
Reference ID: 2:164W532
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seems to be a scottish name
possible robert
McMin
Robert
1768
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1768
Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950
Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
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McMin
Robert
1780
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1780
Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950
Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
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McMin
Robert
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1783
England, Phillimore Marriage Registers, 1531-1913
Harrington, Cumberland, England
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McMin
Robert
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1783
England Marriages 1538-1973
Harrington, Cumberland, England
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McMin
Robert
1793
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1793
Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950
Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
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1841
Name: Matilda McMin
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland
[Not necessarily Scotland - perhaps Ireland?]
Civil Parish: Blackburn
Hundred: Blackburn (Lower Division)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
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Registration District: Blackburn
Sub-registration District: Blackburn
Neighbors:
Piece: 502
Book: 17
Folio: 12
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Matilda McMin 26
Robert McMin 15 -------------
Source Citation
Baptism: 5 Mar 1826 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Robert McMinn - Son of Robert McMinn & Mary
Born: 16 Feb
Abode: Broom St.
Occupation: Weaver
Baptised by: J. Bromilow Curate
Register: Baptisms 1825 - 1827, Page 111, Entry 887
Source: LDS Film 1885677
Name: Matilda Mcminn
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 30
Birth Date: 1814
Marriage Date: 03 Nov 1844
Marriage Place: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Father:
Robert Mcminn - weaver
Spouse:
John Dizley
FHL Film Number: 1885694
Reference ID: 210
but 1851 says ireland
Name: Matilda Disley
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Disley
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Ince
Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration District: Wigan
Sub-registration District: Hindley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 82
Piece: 2200
Folio: 16
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
John Disley 29
Matilda Disley 37
Robert Disley 5
Ann Disley 3
Thomas Disley 1
Robert Mc Mahon 24
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Hello can anyone help i have my great gran matilda mimin In my tree born in Scotland 1814 but my cousin says she was born in Ireland father Robert mcmin please can anyone help thank you Lisa
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