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I imagine she was being fostered, having been born out of wedlock.

Can't see any sign of her mother anywhere, in census or marriage/deaths - at least not in Tettenhall..

very strange rhough she is only a baby and no family

Thanks, Maddie.

There's a single oblique line between Ann and Charles on the image, which I took to mean a change of household, but of course it just means that they're all the same household, but Charles and Ellen aren't part of the Willoughby family.

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Lower Street, Tettenhall, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Richard Willoughby Male 55 1786 Staffordshire, England
Mary Willoughby Female 55 1786 Staffordshire, England
Mary Willoughby Female 15 1826 Staffordshire, England
Ann Willoughby Female 10 1831 Staffordshire, England
Charles Blist Male 35 1806 Staffordshire, England
Ellen Martin Female 0 1841 Staffordshire, England

Ellen Martin
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Ellen Martin
Age: 10 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Gender: Female
Where born: Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Tettenhall Regis With Tettenhall Clericorum
Hundred: North Seisdon
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
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Registration District: Wolverhampton and Seisdon
Sub-registration District: Tettenhall
Neighbors:
Piece: 998
Book: 16
Folio: 15
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Ellen Martin 10 Mo


Seems to be in a household with Charles Blist, 35, gardener.


These are the only other Martins in Tettenhall in 1841:

William Martin
England and Wales Census, 1841
Event Type Census
Name William Martin
Sex Male
Age 25
Event Date 1841
Event Place Tettenhall, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original) Tettenhall, Staffordshire, England
Registration District Wolverhampton & Seisdon
Birth Year (Estimated) 1812-1816
Other People on This Record
Mary Martin F30
Mary Martin F10
William Martin M7
Jane Martin F1

Birth:

MARTIN, HELENA CLARA BEARD -
GRO Reference: 1840 S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON AND SEISDON Volume 17 Page 298

Interesting, Maddie!

Ancestry and FS have this:

Helen Clara Beard Marks
in the England & Wales, Christening Index, 1530-1980
Name: Helen Clara Beard Marks
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 19 Jul 1840
Christening Place: Tettenhall, Staffordshire, England
Mother: Katharie Marks


If that's her, it might account for the middle initial M at marriage (either Marks or Martin ! ).

just putting this as it came up

Helen Clara Beard
Last name Martin
Baptism year 1840
Baptism date 19 Jul 1840
Baptism place Tettenhall Regis, St Michael & All Angels
Denomination Anglican
Mother's first name(s) Katharine
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D1364/1/7
Page 47

Thanks, Alviegal - another little bit of jigsaw found.

Think this is her in 1871 AG. The age has been mistranscribed.

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Victoria Parade, Ramsgate, Thanet, Kent, England

George Burgess Head
- Male 44 1827 - Kent, England
Emma Burgess Wife
- Female 45 1826 - Kent, England
Edwin Sig Burgess Son
- Male 10 1861 - Kent, England
Charles H Burgess Son
- Male 7 1864 - Kent, England
Somerville J G Burgess Son
- Male 2 1869 - Kent, England
Caroline Hutchins Servant
- Female 33 1838 - Kent, England
Jane Beadel Servant
- Female 29 1842 - Kent, England
>>Ellen C Beard Servant
- Female 50 1821 - Albington Shropshire, England
Jane A Kite Servant
- Female 17 1854 - Kent, England

This woman is no relation of mine.
I came across her while looking for someone else, and got side-tracked - as you do.

I can't find anything about her before 1881.
Perhaps you too feel the need of a puzzle ?

I have her in 1881, 1891, and 1911, and probably her marriage and death.
Sadly, she was married for less than 9 years, and doesn't seem to have had any children.




Ellen C. Beard
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Ellen C. Beard
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Albrighton, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: St George
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 17 West Eaton Pl
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: House Maid
Registration District: St George Hanover Square
Sub registration district: Belgrave
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors:
Piece: 100
Folio: 9
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Frances E. Woodward 52
Robert M.W. Woodward 24
Ellen S. Rawlings 18
Ellen C. Beard 40 - unmarried


Her marriage ??

???
Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%)
Beard Ellen Clara M Lambeth 1d 873 <<<<<<<<<<<<<
JAMES Azariah Lambeth 1d 873
PRICE Charles Lambeth 1d 873 <<<<<<<<<<< ????????????
SMITH Harriet Lambeth 1d 873

I've no idea where the middle initial M comes from.


Ellen C Price
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Ellen C Price
Gender: Female
Age: 50
Relationship: Boarder
Birth Year: 1841
Birth Place: Allbrighton, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Chelsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Residence Place: London, Chelsea, London, England
Registration District: Chelsea
Sub registration district: Chelsea, North
ED, Institution or Vessel: 4
Neighbors:
Piece: 58
Folio: 133
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary B Gregory 23
Bertha E Gregory 2
Thomas J Gregory 6/12
Ellen C Price 50 - widowed, domestic servant, daily worker



Ellen Clara Price
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Ellen Clara Price
Age in 1911: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Old, Shropshire, England [ Old Brighton on image - ie - Albrighton misheard by enumerator]
Civil Parish: Wandsworth
Country: England
Street Address: 124 Earlsfield Road, Wandsworth S W
Marital status: Widowed
Occupation: Old Age Pensioner
Registration District Number: 26
Sub-registration District: Sprinfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Piece: 2384


???
Deaths Dec 1922 (>99%)
Price Ellen C 83 Wandsworth 1d 668