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she apparently had a minor op just before Christmas, but was then unsteady on her feet, and was deemed unfit to return to her home.

So, the brothers who own the Ritz offered her the suite for her use for the "foreseeable" future ................... and so she had lived there for about 3 months

She had 2 carers who took it in turns to sleep there, and a number of friends who visited for short or longer periods of time.

The Ritz was her favourite hotel, and the only place that she apparently went to for meals (lunch) in her later years.


she did apparently still own her own house, but .......... as stated ....... was deemed unable to live there.

Thank you Lynda for that and I agree with you

Can I just say again, please keep this thread light, for it is supposed to be a thread with no animosity on any side but intended for people to state what they know about the Thatcher era because it was so changing for this country

She had a suite at The Ritz, I'm sure she probably owns a home somewhere though. She was with her carer and a doctor when she died.

Not a bad place to pass away, especially if she loved it there.

Muffy I think you are right - I will check

Home in Dulwich I think but was invited to stay at the ritz if I understood correctly.

did she still have a home - she was living in the Ritz

This thread just reminds me of a episode of Steptoe and Son when Albert's brother dies and the family rush back from the service to the house for the share out....cars racing on 2 wheels, some of you will be discussing what she has left and to whom in her will next........just saying :-D

I totally understand you Sylvia.
You had to be tough to get ahead.
I was self employed,had guest house and cafe and 2 children,played in a band a few nights a week ,taught music after school in winter....workaholic.
I have a music degree but I had a northern accent..not broad,and couldn't get a job in the local school teaching music because I didn't speak Welsh.
The one who got the job wasn't very good and I had a lot of her pupils to get them through exams .
I love this country but don't always like the attitude of the relaxed way that a lot ,not all,think that the country owes them without putting any effort in themselves.
That is a message Mrs T was trying to get through ,as our present government is now trying to reward those who work.
Must admit though that Her last term she tended to get really autocratic ,and I think power got to her head. :-|

The funeral arrangements had nothing to do with the present prime minister, I believe they were put in place in 2010 under G.B leadership.

The late Baroness was probably shown what the plan was and approved or disapproved some of the arrangements eg not to have a fly-past etc.

Some people do care what sort of funeral they have Ann, and if they don't care the family often do, and they are the ones who arrange the funeral.

We have just had to arrange a funeral for a close member of our family, and we took into account what there wishes were, then added what we thought fitting, we took into account the music, the service, what was said, and then the wake, now we are carrying out the wishes of where the ashes will be scattered.

Giving someone a good send off, is a tribute to there life I think.

I'm at yet another funeral tomorrow, too many of them lately :-(

That same thought crossed my mind yesterday too Susan!

I remember a while back a friend of ours passing away and someone wrote evil comments on a thread much like the ones of a certain poster on this thread. They were told to get lost in no uncertain terms to leave it for another day and to have some respect for the dead. This I think applies to anyone who has recently died. So if anyone wishes to add evil comments I suggest they think about that time and how they felt about someone who had just died who they respected, being slagged off.

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There is a time and place for everything evil remarks are not needed at this time.

John ............


she also did not want a public lying-in state, which is part and parcel of a State Funeral, but not a Ceremonial one


so she had two reasons for refusing a State Funeral ............ which, besides needing approval form parliament, also requires permission from the Queen.

The Queen gave permission for the Ceremonial Funeral, but it is not guaranteed fro a non-member of the Royal Family


It seems that only Winston Churchill and the Duke of Wellington have been accorded that honour.


You don't "apply" for either funeral ................. it is suggested to you


At least, that is my understanding!

Anything remotely approaching asking for it would be considered crass ......... and certain to ensure that you wouldn't get one!

who really cares what kind of funeral they will be having? not me - hope my son doesn't pay too much for one, cheapest of everything I hope and just one bouquet of flowers - I shall choose what songs I want and I shall be "planted" [my ashes that is] with my lovely OH in our churchyard where I was christened and we were married - why would anyone want more than that?

Breakfast clubs and after school clubs here, are paid for by the parents, and the vast majority of the children who use them, use them because of the parents working. There is a small budget set aside at the school for children who's parent/s are having difficulties either with there child, or the parent has a problem, and being out of the house for longer benefits the child.

I seem to remember it was Mrs T who wanted a hereditary title at the highest level (at a time when no one else was getting one). She felt it would increase the status of her son Mark and her grandson.

And she also wanted a State Funeral, but backed down when she realsied it needed to be passed through Parliament and wouldn't have been passed in all probablility (several Tories would have abstained). So she settled for a lesser Ceremonial Funeral.

She will be the fifth person to have a funeral at that level since the Queen ascended the throne - Queen Mary, Earl Mountbatten, Diana, Princess of Wales and the Queen Mother being the other four.

Breakfast clubs over here serve food provided by donation (cash or food) from individuals and companies.

They are meant for poor children who otherwise would not get a meal.

We also have "day cares" at primary schools that look after children before and after school, they may serve food to their children ................... but that is included in the amount that the parents pay for the daycare.

The two are separate.


Not every school has a breakfast club, they are usually only in the "inner city schools".

Wouldn't like to say Lyndi.....can only go on what I see and know of from here...

Plans for a Ceremonial vs a State Funeral were made with Margaret Thatcher years ago ............ while she was still compos mentis

That is the way it is done, in the UK as well as here.


Then, as I understand, it is confirmed with the family when the time comes that this was still what the person wanted ........... and that can be done by phone.

You can bet your bottom dollar that, although the announcement has been made, the plans are still being finalised!

So most (can't say all because I don't know) breakfast clubs aren't in the same category as free milk