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hoping mathew might hold the clue as he was born in 1873 and he was the one in lunatic asylum god knows

Your loosing me again Sheena! Do you mean John isaacs 1830's, his mother remarried a Prince!

If so...........Do you have his mother on census!

What do you think of the John Isaac Death........age bang on!

yes that death is spot on john b 1833 who married mary fitzpatrick his parents were isaac and rebecca isaacs the children were him henry 1836 maria 58 i searched henry and found them on 51 census henry and maria are isaacs others prince have a look see wat you think
thanks ann

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Person: ISAACS, Henry
Address: 32, New Street, Saint Botolph Aldgate, London

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Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
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PRINCE, Michael Head Married M 27 1824 Boot Maker
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PRINCE, Rebecca Wife Married F 35 1816
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ISAACS, Henry Son In Law M 15 1836 Carvert Gilder
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ISAACS, Maria Daughter In Law F 12 1839
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PRINCE, Sarah Daughter In Law F 11 1840 Scholar
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ABRAHAM, Rosa Grand Child F 2 1849
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HARRIS, Frederick Lodger Unmarried M 24 1827 Tailor
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HARRIS, Rosa Sister Unmarried F 22 1829 Tailoress
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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1524 Folio:
236 Page:
37

Registration District:
East London Sub District:
Saint Botolph Enumeration District:
1G Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Saint Botolph Aldgate Municipal Borough:
London Address:
32, New Street, Saint Botolph Aldgate, London County:
Middlesex

rebecca john mam was born that year your thoughts much app
sheena xx

So its Johns mum and step-father them being step children NOT in-laws!

So now can see the surname may not have been plucked out of thin air for the family to use..........IF THEY DID??

If it was me, I would have to eliminate that death, facts being:

Age fits, and 1879 would fit in the timescale you say that everything changed eg names and location of the family. The only bug bear was the registration district of Chelsea...........then again there was a large Hospital in Chelsea...........it is only a maybe but needs checking!

would it be worthwhile purchasing that death cert????? bought quite a few lately pretty costly
or is there another way around it???
thanks for all your help ann ive been researching since 11am square eyes now and i dont wont to start muddling people up be back in the morning to follow on
once again a big thanks
sheena x

What do you mean re Rebeccas age, do you mean cos she is older than Her husband...........her age is the same on the 1841.

To find out if that is "YOUR" Isaacs death you will have to purchase the cert this is the quickest and easiest way............I know what you mean about expensive............I have been doing this for nearly 30 years........in the days before computers. Travelled the length of the UK in my quests! I dread to think how much I have spent!

nite nite
Annx

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Deaths Dec 1918 (>99%)
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Prince John 82 Newcastle T. 10b 100
another possible death ???

not sure if this is your family or if it helps!!
army service records is this the John in 1911?
John Prince abt 1899 36 Bermond Sey St Shieedfleed, Newcastle-On-Tyne

next of kin given as John Prince grandfather (looks like it said father and grand was added)

that could possibly be mathew prince son b1898 so could well be my john the grandfather do you no if there is any army records for john prince b1864 ????? my gran thinks he was in something to do with horses
any help app
thanks
sheena

FYI From - http://www.nationalarchives.ie/contactus/churchrecords_2.html

The remaining Church of Ireland parish records for Dublin City, county Kerry and county Carlow have now been added to the Irish Genealogy website, together with a subset of the records of parishes in the Roman Catholic Diocese of Cork and Ross.

Work has commenced to complete the computerisation of other Roman Catholic records for Dublin City and the Diocese of Cork and Ross (the latter diocese includes Cork City and all of the parishes in West Cork). It is intended to have elements of this project completed and available online by the end of 2010.

The Irish Genealogy website is now hosted by the Department of Tourism, Culture and Sport. The address of the website is: www.irishgenealogy.ie.

thank you for that info mgnv

Hi Sheena,

Any new leads?

Annx

PRINCE John 1867 London, Middlesex Royal Artillery 1883-1900 VIEW VIEW
PRINCE John 1868 Dudley, Worcestershire Worcestershire Regiment 1883-1900 VIEW VIEW
PRINCE John ? C Aruna 20th Foot 1760-1854 VIEW VIEW
PRINCE John ? Stockport, Cheshire 2nd Battn 23rd Regiment Of Foot 1760-1854 VIEW VIEW
PRINCE John ? Salisbury, Wiltshire 2nd Battalion 66th Regiment Of Foot 1760-1854 VIEW VIEW
PRINCE John ? 39th Reg Of Foot 1873-1882 VIEW VIEW
PRINCE John ? Royal Irish Fusiliers (Princess Victoria's) 1883-1900 VIEW VIEW



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Any of these ring a bell Sheena?

ThiBritish Army Service Records 1760-1913
First name(s): John

Last name: PRINCE

Calculated year of birth: 1867

Parish of birth: Putney

Town of birth: London

County of birth: Middlesex

Age at attestation: 19 years 5 months

Attestation date: 12 July 1886

Attestation corps: Royal Artillery

Attestation soldier number: 10624

Discharge rank:

Discharge corps:

Discharge soldier number:

The National Archives reference: WO97 / 3687 / 62

There are 7 images available for this soldier

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s one looks tasty!

just come back on well john was born 1864 so age is close my gran remembered a story and a photo of him with a horse his horse got shot unfortantly no one knows what happened to the pic can u send me the images ????? my gran would reconise if it was him
and still stumped so far i have found a contact doing the princes just waiting on her info coming fingers x
thank you ann

i do have a few pics of one of one of his grandsons in uniform and one of his great granson maybe a resemblence

Hi Sheena,

Drat had visitors...........have just had a quick look at the images of the said record...........next of kin is his mother Mary Prince.

He was a GROOM!

I will pm you regarding some info firstly.

Ann

u gem ann x