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Dianad
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29 Mar 2017 19:53 |
I am researching for a friend I have found their ancestors William Mummery and Emily Cline marriage 1905
also 1911 living at 57 bridge street folkestone
I cannot find Emily Cline birth - on her marriage cert it says she was from Berkley Gloucestershire
William mummery was from Folkestone in kent
any help would be appreciated
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malyon
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29 Mar 2017 20:04 |
what was her age when Emily married
could this be Emily born 1874
Deaths Sep 1961 (>99%)
MUMMERY Emily 87 Folkestone 5b 475
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29 Mar 2017 20:20 |
EMILY ELIZA Last name CLINE Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1905 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ EMILY ELIZA CLINE married one of these people William Henry Mummery, James Betts District Hackney District number - County London Country England Volume 1B Page 869 Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain © brightsolid online publishing ltd
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MargaretM
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29 Mar 2017 20:24 |
Is this the marriage?
William Henry Mummery in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 View London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: William Henry Mummery Estimated birth year:t 1884 Age: 21 Spouse: Emily Eliza Cline Spouse Age:21 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 31 Aug 1905 Parish: All Saints, Clapton Park Borough: Hackney Father Name: John William Mummery Spouse Father: Edmond Cline Register Type: Parish Register
EDIT: BUT if that's them at 57 Bridge St., Folkestone in 1911 he's 48 and she's 39!
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29 Mar 2017 20:25 |
From the 1939 register she was born 1884
Household (6 People) 1 Old Bromley Road , Lewisham, London, England Start free family tree View original imagePrint FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) Emily E Mummery DOB 26 Jun 1884 SEX Female OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic Duties MARITAL STATUS Married SCHEDULE 106 SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2 William H Mummery DOB 30 Oct 1883 SEX Male OCCUPATION Railway Goods Checker MARITAL STATUS Married SCHEDULE 106 SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1 Albert C Mummery Frank Mummery Alice Adams (Mummery) Don Emily Byrne
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29 Mar 2017 20:31 |
On the image of the 1939 register, Emily's DOB is 31 Jan 1884.
EMILY ELIZA Last name MUMMERY Gender Female Birth day 31 Birth month 1 Birth year 1884 Age - Death quarter 4 Death year 1984 District Bromley Register number 1084 County Kent Volume 11 Page 1153 Country England Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from Great Britain © Findmypast
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MargaretM
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29 Mar 2017 20:36 |
I think this more like them in 1911: Emily Mummery in the 1911 England Census View 1911 England Census Name: Emily Mummery Age in 1911:27 Estimated birth year: abt 1884 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: STRATFORD, England Civil Parish: Camberwell Search Photos: Search for 'Camberwell' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 2 Albert Cottages, Marlborough Road, Old Kent Road Marital Status: Married Years Married: 6 Estimated Marriage Year: 1905 Registration district: Camberwell Registration District Number: 27 Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Piece: 2539 Household Members:
William Mummery 27 Emily Mummery 27 William Mummery 4 Lional Mummery 2 John Mummery 0
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malyon
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29 Mar 2017 20:36 |
did Emily and William have children in 1911 census
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29 Mar 2017 20:40 |
Didn't know English marriages gave birth place. Are you sure that wasn't just her place of residence at the time of the marriages?
I think her birth was registered in West Ham and this is her in 1891.
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Queen Street, West Ham, Essex, England
Edmund Cline Head Married Male 34 1857 Engine Driver Woolwich, Kent, England Hannah Cline Wife Married Female 34 1857 - Hackney, Middlesex, England Edmund Cline Son - Male 12 1879 Scholar Stratford, Essex, England Hannah Cline Daughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar Enfield, Middlesex, England John R Cline Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Enfield, Middlesex, England Emily E Cline Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Stratford, Essex, England Louisa Cline Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Stratford, Essex, England Alice Cline Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Stratford, Essex, England
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MargaretM
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29 Mar 2017 20:41 |
No children on the 1911 census that Jonsey mentioned but 3 in the one that I posted.
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Chris Ho :)
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29 Mar 2017 20:42 |
Don't suppose it was below?...(Married 5yrs 1911)
Chris :)
Marriages Sep 1906 (>99%) ----------------------------------------------------------- HALL Edith Elizabeth Edmonton 3a 1169 MUMMERY William Edmonton 3a 1169 Rhys David Ivor Edmonton 3a 1169 SMITH Emma Edmonton 3a 1169
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1881 5, Dour Cottages, Charlton Near Dover, Dover, Kent, England Robert Mummery Head Married Male 58 1823 Boot Maker Folkestone, Kent, England Maria Mummery Wife Married Female 45 1836 - Dover, Kent, England William Mummery Son Single Male 18 1863 No Occupation Folkestone, Kent, England Jane S Mummery Daughter Single Female 18 1863 No Occupation Folkestone, Kent, England
https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch
(if Edmund Cline 1929 on above. Manor Park Cemetery. Newham)
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MargaretM
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29 Mar 2017 20:44 |
9 more children after 1911 in Camberwell between 1914-1928
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29 Mar 2017 20:47 |
I think that is the correct 1911 census Margaret as William's occupation ties in with the 1939 register. In 1911 William gives his place of birth as Stoke Newington.
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29 Mar 2017 20:53 |
Births Dec 1883 (>99%) MUMMERY William Henry Hackney 1b 456
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Dianad
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29 Mar 2017 21:13 |
Hi everyone - what a lot of info! She is Emily Cline - so births for that
I found the 1911 at 57 bridge street - I found the marriage william mummery to Emily cline, I was told they were from Kent
I will ask my friend about more specific dates
I know Emily Cline had a brother who was in the 1st world war as they are going to visit the war grave in may he got a top uk bravery medal, and when in hospital recovering - the hospital was bombed up and he was killed
Thanks again for all the hard work! :-D
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Chris Ho :)
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29 Mar 2017 21:35 |
(possibly the Brother below)
Chris :)
In Memory of Corporal JOHN RICHARD CLINE DCM 6th Dragoon Guards (Carabiniers) who died aged 37 on Sunday, 19th May 1918.
Corporal CLINE was the son of Edmund and Hannah Cline; husband of Mrs. M. C. Cline, of 120, Mandeville St., Clapton Park, London. Native of Clapton Park, Hackney.
Remembered with honour ETAPLES MILITARY CEMETERY, Pas de Calais, France.
UK, Citations of the Distinguished Conduct Medal, 1914-1920 (Ancestry) J.R. Cline 31 Oct 5291 6th Dragoon Guards (Carabiniers)
5291 Private J.R. Cline, 6th Dragoon Guards. For great gallantry on the night of 31st October in taking up a position of great danger on the left of our line, which was out of touch with all other troops and conveying information of the enemy's movements. His action was instrumental in preventing a body of our troops from being surrounded.
UK, Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929 (Ancestry)
John Richard Cline 19 May 1918 France 6th Drg Guards D/20382 (Widow, sole leg. Maud C. £23)
https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch
(if Edmund Cline 1929 on above)
CLINE, JOHN RICHARD (BLACKALL) GRO Reference: 1882 M Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 337
CLINE, EMILY ELIZA (BLACKALL) GRO Reference: 1884 M Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 207
https://tinyurl.com/n6vh4uw
(for Cemetery, John)
http://www.everymanremembered.org/profiles/soldier/499983/
(From above, Simply click on the name above and you’ll be invited to place a poppy in their memory on our interactive map. You can then choose a dedication which will appear on their profile. It’s that simple.)
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MargaretM
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29 Mar 2017 22:37 |
You do realize, Jonsey, that the 1911 census at Bridge St. is not the right couple , the ages are way out. The 1911 census that I posted is the correct one and William was born Stoke Newington, London and Emily at Stratford, London.
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Chris Ho :)
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30 Mar 2017 07:27 |
(below the 1911 FMP)
Chris :)
1911 (Find My Past) William Mummery Head Married Male Railway Porter 27 1884 London Stoke Newington Emily Mummery Wife Married Female - 27 1884 London Stratford William Mummery Son - Male - 4 1907 London Clapton Lional Mummery Son - Male - 2 1909 London Clapton John Mummery Son - Male - 0 1911 London Camberwell Address 2 Albert Cottages Marlborough Road Old Kent Road Census reference RG14PN2539 RG78PN85 RD27 SD4 ED20 SN662
MUMMERY, LIONEL GEORGE (CLINE) GRO Reference: 1908 D Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 402
MUMMERY, WILLIAM JOHN (CLINE) GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 425
MUMMERY, JOHN EDWARD (CLINE) GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 829
MUMMERY, SIDNEY RICHARD (CLINE) GRO Reference: 1913 M Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 1659
1911 (Find My Past) Edmund Cline Head Married Male Engineman Not Working 54 1857 Kent Woolwich Hannah Cline Wife Married Female - 54 1857 Hackney Essex John Cline Son Single Male Soldier 29 1882 Enfield Middex William Cline Son Single Male Laborer (Bottled Beers)15 1896 Leytonstone Essex Albort Jeapeas Boarder Single Male Cabinet Maker 22 1889 Shoreditch London Address 248 Daubeney Road Clapton Park N E Parish St John At Hackney Census reference RG14PN1101 RG78PN36 RD11 SD3 ED28 SN56 (says Married 33yrs, 8 children born, 7 living, 1 died)
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Dianad
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30 Mar 2017 07:49 |
Chris Ho :) that is the Brother! thanks I will see if they have read that
MargaretM - Hi sorry you are right, I saw so much information on here and did not have time to digest, thank you so much!
I will print all this off and get it in some sort of order for my friend
thanks to everyone who contributed
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rootgatherer
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30 Mar 2017 09:22 |
I think it all ties in Jonsey as the Emily Eliza Mummery nee Cline died in Bromley aged 100 years. Death posted above.
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