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1921 census look up please John James Adams

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 May 2024 17:10

Thanks to AG's 'find'................1921 in detail

1921 Census Of England & Wales
Hole Farm, Kingsland, Shobdon, Herefordshire, England
Samuel Arthur Owens Head Male 1861 60 Radnorshire, Wales Farmer Employer. WIDOWED
Lydia Margery Owens Daughter Female 1909 12 Shobdon, Herefordshire, England - -
Barbara Annie Owens Daughter Female 1910 10 Shobdon, Herefordshire, England - -
Mary Simpson Servant Female 1856 64 Winforton, Herefordshire, England Home Duties Private
John Addams Servant Male 1905 16 Bicton, Herefordshire, England General Farm Labourer Mr Owens Farmer
Arthur Dubly Servant Male 1854 67 Eardisland, Herefordshire, England General Labourer Mr Owens Farmer

Correction of head's name submitted to FMP

OWENS, LYDIA MARGERY KNILL
GRO Reference: 1908 D Quarter in LEOMINSTER Volume 06A Page 464


Marriages Jun 1896 (>99%)
Knill Ann Leominster 6a 1125
Knill Eliza Leominster 6a 1125
Owens Samuel Arthur Leominster 6a 1125

Rose

Rose Report 31 May 2024 18:54

Again Thank you everyone for all this information.
Interesting to see a son Daniel born 1928 and the marriage and death.
The school records are probably correct, John had a sister Emma. Not sure why they would be at different schools maybe the age but seems right..
The 1939 Census seems right and he could have moved to Worcester, I dont know if he as a farm Labourer but they changed occupations a lot and his father James was a farm labourer. I dont know who Irene Edith is though.

Argyll/gran-1921 Census John Adams is interesting could be him. I will look into Shobden Court -does it say his occupation? It has been suggested that the Aristocratic family living at Ledbury could be at Ledbury Park or Easton Castle but I am just about to research those too.

Thank you all. Im still working it all out. !

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 May 2024 21:17

His occupation was farm labourer, as shown on the full version of the record posted by ErikaH at 17:10.

(I don't have a sub to FMP to enable me to see the full details online, but she does.)

He was working for Samuel Owens on Hole Farm, which was part of Shobdon Court estate.
Samuel was probably a tenant of the owner of Shobdon Court.

The Bateman family owned Shobdon Court for several generations, and still owned it in 1921:

https://herefordshirepast.co.uk/people/bateman-family-of-shobdon/


Rose

Rose Report 31 May 2024 23:28

Thanks. Sorry I didn't see Erica's until after I replied

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2024 11:27

In 1901 census Samuel Owens was tenant farmer at Tanhouse farm, while Wiliam T George was at the Hole Farm.


This newspaper report of the burial of the second Baron Bateman in 1901 confirms they were tenants on the Shobdon estate:


. . . . . . . of the Hereford Times last week. The church, dedicated to St. John the Evangelist adjoins the Court, and the late Peer was the patron of the living attached, held by his brother, the Hon. and Rev. Arthur Allen Bateman Hanbury. It is a cruciform building, and was erected about the year 1753 on the site of former edifice. It has a monument to the memory of the previous Lord Viscount Bateman. Profound respect and sympathy was displayed in the county generally, and the little village of Shobdon bore a very sorrowful aspect. The funeral took place at half-past two, and the ceremony was a very impressive one. The coffin, heavily draped in purple, and covered with beautiful wreaths, was removed from the saloon where it had lain to the church and afterwards to the grave side on a wheeled bier. There was a coronet coat [of] arms [on ?] top together with the following inscription : William Bateman Bateman-Hanbury, Second Baron, born July 28th, 1826, died November 30th, 1901. There were ten bearers, as follows ; Messrs Jenkins (Ladycourt),Williams (Brome), Williams (Covrnkcpc). George (The Hole), Wintour (Hill Home), Powell (The Farm), Bright (Ladycourt), Jenkins, junr., Owen (Tanhouse), and W. A. Morgan (Ladycourt).

They were all tenants on the Shobdon estate. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Chief mourners included Captain the Hon. William Spencer Bateman Hanbury, who succeeds to the perrape. Major the Hon. Enward Hanbury, the Hon. Charles Hanbury (sons), Prebendary the Hon. A. Bateman (brother), Mr Robert Foster, Mr John Wood and S. Hill Wood (son-in-law), Mr Arthur Davenport ..... . . [and so on]

Published: Saturday 14 December 1901
Newspaper: Hereford Times
County: Herefordshire, England