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Birth Registration for Ernest William Walton

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Paul

Paul Report 19 Dec 2024 14:27

Thank you so very much :-D

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Dec 2024 14:37

Baptism: 14 Jan 1827 Parish Church, Newchurch in Culcheth, Lancashire
John Webb - Son of Lydia Webb
Abode: Culcheth
Occupation: Weaver
Baptised By: Joseph Jones, Incumbent Curate
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1838, Page 107, Entry 856
Source: Original Registers at Chester

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
The Row, Winwick, Leigh, Lancashire, England
Isaiah Wright Male 60 1781 Lancashire, England
Nancy Wright Female 50 1791 Lancashire, England
Nancy Wright Female 7 1834 Lancashire, England
Peter Boardman Male 14 1827 Lancashire, England
John Webb Male 14 1827 Lancashire, England**********
James Wood Male 15 1826 Lancashire, England
Sarah Ratcliffe Female 15 1826 -

*******Apprentice File Cutter

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Burial: 14 Jan 1827 Parish Church, Newchurch in Culcheth, Lancashire
Lydia Webb -
Age: 16
Abode: Culcheth
Buried By: Joseph Jones, Incumbent Curate
Register: Burials 1813 - 1843, Page 69, Entry 548
Source: Original Registers at Chester

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Dec 2024 14:31

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
The Grapes, Culcheth, Leigh, Lancashire, England

John Webb Head - Male 44 1827 F?le cutter Culcheth, Lancashire, England
Mary Webb Wife - Female 39 1832 Cotton weaver Culcheth, Lancashire, England
John Webb Son - Male 13 1858 File cutter (apprentice) Culcheth, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Webb Daughter - Female 14 1857 Cotton winder Culcheth, Lancashire, England
Alfred Webb Son - Male 6 1865 Scholar Culcheth, Lancashire, England
Walter Webb Son - Male 3 1868 - Culcheth, Lancashire, England
Mary Webb Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Culcheth, Lancashire, England
Joseph Webb Son - Male 0 1871 - Culcheth, Lancashire, England

Marriages Mar 1854 (>99%)
Ward Mary Leigh 8c 159
WEBB John Leigh 8c 159

LanOPC site

Marriage: 20 Feb 1854 Parish Church, Newchurch in Culcheth, Lancashire
John Webb - (X), of full age, File Cutter, Bachelor, Culcheth
Mary Ward - (X), of full age, Weaver, Spinster, Culcheth
Bride's Father: George Ward, Labourer
Witnesses: Sarah Ann Blackburn; John Yates
Married by Banns by Fredk. A. Bartlett
Notes: [Groom's Father not recorded]
Register: Marriages 1837 - 1890, Page 74, Entry 147
Source: Original Registers at Chester

Baptism: 18 Sep 1856 Bury Lane Church, Newchurch, Lancashire
Elizabeth Webb - [Child] of John Webb & Mary
Abode: Bury Lane
Occupation: File cutter
Baptised By: R. Morton
Register: Baptisms 1856 - 1863, Page 178, Entry 1419
Source: Original Registers at Chester

Baptism: 1 May 1859 Bury Lane Church, Newchurch, Lancashire
John Webb - [Child] of John Webb & Mary
Abode: Bury Lane
Occupation: File cutter
Baptised By: R. Morton
Register: Baptisms 1856 - 1863, Page 188, Entry 1497
Source: Original Registers at Chester

Baptism: 17 Jan 1860 Bury Lane Church, Newchurch, Lancashire
Thomas Webb - [Child] of John Webb & Mary
Abode: Bury Lane
Occupation: File cutter
Baptised By: R. Morton, Curate
Notes: P [entered in the margin]
Register: Baptisms 1856 - 1863, Page 190, Entry 1519
Source: Original Registers at Chester

Baptism: 21 Oct 1861 Bury Lane Church, Newchurch, Lancashire
George Webb - [Child] of John Webb & Mary
Abode: Bury Lane
Occupation: File cutter
Baptised By: R. Morton
Register: Baptisms 1856 - 1863, Page 196, Entry 1561
Source: Original Registers at Chester

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Dec 2024 13:48

Name Elizabeth Slawson
Gender Female
Marriage Age Minor
Event Type Marriage
Marriage Date 28 May 1860
Marriage Place Liverpool, St Peter, Lancashire, England
Father Joseph Slawson..................Soldier
Spouse William Walton.............Iron Moulder
Spouse father William Walton...............Blacksmith
Witnesses: Peter Neill, Ellen Slawson

Address for both parties : Lydia Ann St

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Dec 2024 12:04

SYKES, WILFRID HOUGH
GRO Reference: 1899 J Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 291

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Dec 2024 11:56

1921 Census Of England & Wales
36, Peel Lane, Astley, Lancashire, England

Alfred Winstanley Head Male 1857 64 Leigh, Lancashire, England Colliery Surfacehand (Coal) The Clifton & Kearsley Colliery Co (Out Of Work)
Annie Winstanley Wife Female 1860 60 Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England Home Duties -
Wilfred Sykes Nephew Male 1899 22 Culcheth, Lancashire, England Temporary Officer Minstry Of Labour London
Margaret Ann Smith Daughter Female 1889 31 Leigh, Lancashire, England Home Duties -
Erick Winstanley-Smith Grandson Male 1915 5 Leigh, Lancashire, England - -
William Broom Boarder Male 1868 52 Lancashire, England Colliery Surface hand Coal The Clifton Kearsley Colly Co (Out Of Work)
John Brown Wallbank Boarder Male 1895 26 Preston, Lancashire, England Police Constable Lancashire Constabulary
Mark Chippendale Boarder Male 1900 20 Great Harwood, Lancashire, England Police Constable Lancashire Constabulary

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Dec 2024 11:29

WALTON, ANNIE SLAWSON
GRO Reference: 1860 D Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 248

WALTON, FRANCIS SLAWSON
GRO Reference: 1862 M Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 322

HOUGH, MARY SLAWSON
GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in OF LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 116



Name Maria Hough
[Mary Hough]
Age 0
Birth Date 6 Sep 1869
Baptism Date 15 Sep 1869
Baptism Place St Peter's Priory, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father Joannis Hough
Mother Elizabeth Slawson

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Dec 2024 11:22

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Kent Terrace, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Elizabeth Hough Head Widow Female 29 1842 ? Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Annie Hough Daughter - Female 10 1861 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Francis Hough Son - Male 9 1862 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Hough Daughter - Female 3 1868 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Mary Ellen Hough Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Dec 2024 11:18

WEBB, LYDIA LAWSON
GRO Reference: 1877 D Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 240

WEBB, ELLEN SLAWSON
GRO Reference: 1879 S Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 229

WEBB, WALTER WARD
GRO Reference: 1867 J Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 196

HOUGH, JOSEPH SLAWSON
GRO Reference: 1873 J Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 224

HOUGH, ELIZABETH BELL SLAWSON
GRO Reference: 1867 J Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 213

Marriages Jun 1860 (>99%)
Slawson Elizabeth Liverpool 8b 84
Walton William Liverpool 8b 84


Marriages Mar 1867 (>99%)
HOUGH John Liverpool 8b 248
Walton Elizabeth Liverpool 8b 248

Paul

Paul Report 18 Dec 2024 10:17

Thank you very much :-D

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Dec 2024 23:20

Annie Walton
in the 1881 England Census
Name Annie Walton
Age 20
Estimated Birth Year abt 1861
Relationship to Head Daughter
Father John Webb
Mother Elizabeth Webb
Gender Female
Where born Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish Culcheth
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Street Address 40 Factory Houses
Occupation Cotton Weaver
Registration district Leigh
ED, institution, or vessel 12
Neighbors
Piece 3804
Folio 31
Page number 18
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
John Webb 54 Head
Elizabeth Webb 40 Wife
Annie Walton 20 Daughter
Walter Webb 14 Son
Elizabeth Hough 13 Daughter
Lydia Webb 3 Daughter
Joseph Hough 8 Son
Ellen Webb 1 Daughter



Annie's birth - see ErikaH's post below, at 11.29.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Dec 2024 23:15

Willie Warton
in the 1891 England Census
Name Willie Warton
Gender Male
Age 9
Relationship Stepson (Step Son)
Birth Year 1882
Mother
Annie Winstanley
Birth Place Culcheth, Lancashire, England
Civil parish Bedford
Residence Place Leigh Lancaster, Bedford, Lancashire, England
Registration district Leigh
Sub registration district Culcheth
ED, Institution or Vessel 7a
Neighbors
Piece 3085
Folio 8
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Alfred Winstanley 35 Head
Annie Winstanley 30 Wife
Margt Ann Winstanley 1 Daughter
Willie Warton 9 Stepson (Step Son)
Ellen Webb 11 Visitor

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Dec 2024 23:12

Posting 1901 for our reference;
William has middle initial W, presumably standing for Walton.
I wonder when/why he added the name Ernest.


William W Winstanley
in the 1901 England Census
Name William W Winstanley
Age 19
Estimated Birth Year abt 1882
Relation to Head Son
Gender Male
Father Alfred Winstanley
Mother Annie Winstanley
Birth Place Glazebury, Lancashire, England
Civil parish Leigh
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Ecclesiastical parish St Thomas
Town Leigh
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Registration district Leigh
Sub-registration district Culcheth
ED, institution, or vessel 06
Neighbors
Piece 3589
Folio 130
Page number 9
Household schedule number 56
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Alfred Winstanley 44 Head
Annie Winstanley 40 Wife
William W Winstanley 19 Son - Glazebury - ledger clerk in cotton mill
Margaret A Winstanley 11 Daughter
Wilfred Sykes 1 Nephew

Paul

Paul Report 17 Dec 2024 18:49

Excellent :-D

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Dec 2024 18:39

Alfred Winstanley married Annie Walton in 1889 in Leigh district

They are on 1901 census where there is a daughter Margaret. Her birth on LancsBMD shows MMN Walton, so William was definitely born out of wedlock, and his father was dreamed up for respectability

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Dec 2024 18:35

His birth on LancsBMD shows MMN Walton, which may well be indicative of illegitimacy

Check by looking at the GRO website

Paul

Paul Report 17 Dec 2024 18:16

Just need to purchase the birth certificatte to check the DOB

Paul

Paul Report 17 Dec 2024 18:15

I think this is him
William Walton

in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name William Walton
Registration Date 1882
Quarter of the Year Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Place Leigh, Lancashire, England
Volume 8c
Page 246a

He appears on the 1911 census as William Walton
William Walton
in the 1911 England Census

Name
William Walton
Age in 1911
29
Estimated Birth Year
abt 1882
Relation to Head
Son
Gender
Male
Birth Place
Glazebury, Lancashire, England
Civil parish
Leigh
County/Island
Lancashire
Country
England
Street Address
56 New Platt Street Leigh Lancs
Marital Status
Single
Occupation
Clerk Cotton Mill (weaving)
Registration District Number
460
Sub-registration district
Leigh
ED, institution, or vessel
03
Piece
23211

Household Members (Name)
Age
Relationship
Anne Winstanley 50 Head
William Walton 29 Son
Margaret Ann Smith 21 Daughter
Wilfred Sykes 11 Nephew
Fred Schofield 40 Boarder
Allen Hey 29 Boarder

Paul

Paul Report 17 Dec 2024 17:53

I have her birth certificate which also reads 3rd March.
I keep coming back to the birth in Stretford that I posted earlier for an Ernest William Walton on the 19th March. However 1921 census states born Glazebury and the marriage cert gives deceased father as Edward whereas the Stretford father is Joseph. Occupations are also different. Very frustrating!!
I have messaged people with Ernests wife on their tree so guess will have to wait and hope!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Dec 2024 17:31

The date looks like a suggested change to Emma's DOB - 17th instead of 3rd March - but her baptism record says March 3rd.