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I'm looking for a connection between the following two people:

John George Richardson 1856 Chelsea. Spouse: Mary Warren. Children:Frederick, Emily, Thomas,John , Mary, Charles, WIlliam all born in WImbledon.

AND

Walter Alfred Richardson born 1885 in Peckham son of Charles and Harriet Richardson. Child: Charles Frederick Richardson 1909. born in Fulham.

Any suggestions would be helpful.
The only other info I have is that Charles Frederick was said to have been the eldest of 13 children (possibly not all of the name Richardson -may have been a second marriage to Hummerston) and I believe Walter Alfred had a traveller's funeral on Mitcham Common. Charles Frederick married Eileen Elizabeth Mary Allen. in 1933 and Walter Alfred was dead then.

1861 England Census
about John G Richardson
Name: John G Richardson
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Chelsea, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Chelsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Chelsea
Sub registration district: Chelsea North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 165
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Richardson 35
John G Richardson 4
Eliza T Richardson 7 Mo

Thanks Diddydoris - i think that is Frederick's father John. I would love to find something with Walter and John together. or a connection further back in the previous generation. Walter Alfred is the grandfather of the infamous Charlie Richardson but he is very hard to find on a census with his family. John George is the G Grandfather of my friend Kelly and she wants to find out how she is connected to the thugs of South London (don't ask why!!). There has been a story in her family and most of her living relatives won't talk about it.

Could this be Walter in 1901, age out a little,
occ Horse trader

1901 England Census
about Walter Richardson
Name: Walter Richardson
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Harriett
Gender: Male
Where born: Nunhead, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Antholin
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub registration district: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 129
Household Members: Name Age
Harriett Richardson 41
Maud Richardson 20
Charles Richardson 18
Walter Richardson 19
Exmas Richardson 13
Percy Richardson 11

Christine

1891 England Census
about Waller Richardson
Name: Waller Richardson
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Harriet
Gender: Male
Where born: Nunhead, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anthony
Town: Peckham
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Camberwell
Sub registration district: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Richardson 35
Harriet Richardson 33
Maud Richardson 10
Charles Richardson 8
Waller Richardson 7
Eremas Richardson 3
Percy Richardson 1


Christine

Hi Christine - thanks for that. Yes, I think those are the right census reports for Walter. Can you see any links with Frederick? Purveyor of horse flesh sounds like a traveller , doesn't it?

Have you found them on the 1911 census?

Which Frederick are you trying to find links with?

Christine

I'm trying to link the two families together.
John George Richardson 1856 Chelsea. Spouse: Mary Warren. Children:Frederick, Emily, Thomas,John , Mary, Charles, WIlliam all born in WImbledon
and Walter Alfred, son of Charles RIchardson born in Nunhead.
My friend Kelly is the grand daughter of the Frederick in this list.

I haven't been able to find them in 1911 yet but I believe more records are coming later on and will tyr again.

i think the link must be in a generation further back - say John and Walter's grandparents for example

Sorry Christine I'm talking rubbish. I have found Walter Alfred in 1911. He is living alone in Peckham and says he is a widower. He was a 'conductor' I doubt if that means of an orchestra - more likely a bus! I have bought that certificate. I can't find the other family.

Hi Jennifer it seems we are trying to find the same family

Richardson's own thread
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1347283