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18 Mar 2009 20:44 |
Would someone kindly look up the 1901 census for me please. I couldn't find him on GR but he is on Ancestry! William G Smith abt 1862 Spouse Elizabeth abt 1861 London
Should be William George Smith,Elizabeth and 6 children. 428 Northampton Bldgs.Clerkenwell
I would like to know where William and Elizabeth were born please.
Many thanks Rose
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Madmeg
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18 Mar 2009 21:07 |
Hi Rose
I can only find William G age 40, a printer born St Pancras, Elizabeth age 40 born St James and Lillie 14, dressmaker born St james. They are living at Buckingham Street.
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18 Mar 2009 21:20 |
1901 CENSUS Address 28 Buxton Bdgs (Model Dwellings) Civil Parish Clerkenwell Rural District Town or Village or Hamlet Ecclesiastical Parish St Marks Parliamentary Borough or Division Central Finsbury County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Finsbury Administrative County London Householder 1 Name Annie Smith Relation to Head of Family Wife Condition as to Marriage Married Age Last Birthday 44 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born London Language Infirmity Householder 2 Name Harry Smith Relation to Head of Family Servant Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 13 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Juvenile Employment Status Where Born London Language Infirmity Householder 3 Name William Smith Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 10 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Juvenile Employment Status Where Born London Language Infirmity Householder 4 Name William Smith Relation to Head of Family Head Condition as to Marriage Married Age Last Birthday 40 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Traveller Employment Status Where Born London Language Infirmity hi this is the only one i could find
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Rose
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18 Mar 2009 21:20 |
Hi Margaret, Was this information from Ancestry?
Many thanks Rose
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alviegal
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18 Mar 2009 21:28 |
Is this your family in 1891 Rose?
Original census image SMITH, William G Head Married M 29 1862 Coachman Clerkenwell London VIEW SMITH, Elizabeth Wife Married F 28 1863 St Giles London VIEW SMITH, William J Son M 5 1886 Clerkenwell London VIEW SMITH, Lillian Daughter F 4 1887 Clerkenwell London VIEW SMITH, Edith Daughter F 2 1889 Clerkenwell London
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Rose
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18 Mar 2009 21:53 |
Hi Alviegal, 1891 census could be the family as Edith is on my records. I know they were married June qtr 1884 St Giles, I did think there was a long wait for the 1st child. On the birth certificate of my father in law it states his occupation as cab driver. Was a coachman a similar occupation?
The only children I have is Edith Jun qtr 1890 Sidney Thomas Mar qtr 1892 Albert George 1/6/1893 Frank Mar qtr 1896 Walter Dec qtr 1899 Leonard Dec qtr 1900
I think this is very likely the same family, maybe William and Lillian had died? as my husband never mentioned these names. Will need to look on Freebmd see if deaths are registered as they would have been too young to leave home by the 1901 census I would have thought.
Thank you so much for your time and effort, I am very grateful.
Rose
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18 Mar 2009 22:11 |
Hi,
Ive looked on Freebmd and cannot find births of William or Lillian registered in Clerkenwell . Thats a great start lol
Rose
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28 Aug 2020 13:42 |
Trying to find EDITH SMITH born 1889 Clerkenwell
I found 3 other children in this family
I cannot find her after the 1901 census?
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alviegal
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28 Aug 2020 14:55 |
1901 for our benefit.
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Northampton Buildings 15Th Block, 428, London, Clerkenwell, Holborn, London & Middlesex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Geo Smith Head Married Male 39 1862 Cab Driver Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Elizabeth Smith Wife Married Female 39 1862 - St Giles, Middlesex, England William Smith Son Single Male 15 1886 Telegraph Messenger Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Lilian Smith Daughter - Female 14 1887 Upholsteress Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Edith Smith Daughter Single Female 11 1890 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Sidney Smith Son Single Male 9 1892 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Albert Smith Son Single Male 7 1894 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Frederick Smith Son Single Male 4 1897 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Walter Smith Son Single Male 3 1898 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Leonard Smith Son - Male 0 1901 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
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alviegal
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28 Aug 2020 15:00 |
Possible for her.
1911 Census For England & Wales
122 Wellington Road Forest Gate E, West Ham, London & Essex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Burdon Head Married Male 27 1884 Barman Glasgow Resident Edith Burdon Wife Married Female 20 1891 - London Clerkenwell James Burdon Son - Male 1 1910 - London St Lukes
and her marriage.
England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
First name(s) EDITH Last name SMITH Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1909 Registration month -
MarriageFinder ™
EDITH SMITH married one of these people
James William Burdon, George James Giffin District Holborn District number - County London Country England Volume 1B Volume as transcribed 1B Page number 1196
EDIT Ancestry has a copy of their MC and Edith's father is Richard, a saddle tree maker so not her. An Ernest Smith is a witness. :-(
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alviegal
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28 Aug 2020 15:15 |
A tree on ancestry, which seems to be owned by a descendant of Lilians, has this as the last sighting of her.
Unspecified 13 Sep 1906 • Leyton, London, England
Witness at the wedding of Henry Holdsworth and Lilian Smith
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ErikaH
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28 Aug 2020 15:17 |
For accuracy..............
SMITH, EDITH NORA MAHONEY GRO Reference: 1889 J Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 705
Always look for pre-1911 births on the GRO site....for FULL info
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ErikaH
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28 Aug 2020 15:20 |
Name: Edith Nora Smith Gender: Female Marriage Age: 21 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1889 Marriage Date: 3 Jul 1910 Marriage Place: St Mary Magdalene, Holloway Road, Islington, England Spouse: Vincent Thomas Gale Register Type: Parish Register Bride's father William George Smith, Cab Driver
1911
Name: Edith Dora Gale Age in 1911: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1890 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: CLERKENWELL, London, England Civil Parish: Lambeth County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 7 Brading Rd, Brixton Hill SW Marital status: Married Estimated Marriage Year: 1911 Registration district: Lambeth Registration District Number: 25 Sub-registration district: Norwood ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Piece: 2112 Household Members: Name Age Vinrent Thomas Gale 25 Edith Dora Gale 21
1939
Name: Edith N Gale Gender: Female Marital status: Married Birth Date: 10 May 1889 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 18 Residence Place: Enfield, Middlesex, England Occupation: Housewife Line Number: 38 Sub Schedule Number: 2 Enumeration District: BEBS Borough: Enfield Inferred Spouse: Vincent S Gale Inferred Children: Vincent J W Gale Edith R Gale Joyce E Gale Peggy A Gale Eric R F Gale Household Members: Name Vincent S Gale Edith N Gale Vincent J W Gale Edith R Gale Joyce E Gale Peggy A Gale Eric R F Gale Louice Cook
Deaths Jun 1947 (>99%) Gale Edith N 57 Edmonton 5e 422
Deaths Sep 1962 (>99%) GALE Vincent T 76 Edmonton 5e 301
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ErikaH
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28 Aug 2020 15:25 |
Name: Eric R F Gale Registration Date: Apr 1926 [May 1926] [Jun 1926] Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Edmonton Inferred County: Essex Mother's Maiden Name: Smith
Name: Eric R F Gale Registration Date: Jul 1949 [Aug 1949] [Sep 1949] Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: Ealing Inferred County: Middlesex Spouse: Aileen Bellingham
Name: Eric Robert Francis Gale Death Date: 23 Jan 1970 Death Place: Enfield Probate Date: 16 Feb 1970 Probate Registry: London
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ErikaH
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28 Aug 2020 15:33 |
Name: Vincent Thomas William Gale Baptism Age: 0 Record Type: Baptism Birth Date: 4 Oct 1914 Baptism Date: 20 Oct 1914 Baptism Place: St James, Clerkenwell, Islington, England Father: Vincent Thomas Gale Mother: Edith Nora Gale
Name: Vincent Thomas W Gale Death Age: 76 Birth Date: 4 Oct 1914 Registration Date: May 1991 Registration district: St Albans Inferred County: Hertfordshire Volume: 10 Page: 620
Name: Edith Rosemary Pain Death Age: 76 Birth Date: 20 Nov 1911 Registration Date: Jan 1988 Registration district: Enfield Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 12 Page: 476
Name: Edith Rosemary Pain Death Date: 19 Jan 1988 Death Place: Enfield Probate Date: 30 Mar 1988 Probate Registry: London
Name: Peggy Alexandra Bulgen Death Age: 69 Birth Date: 1 Dec 1924 Registration Date: Nov 1994 Registration district: Enfield Inferred County: Greater London Register Number: B31D District and Subdistrict: 2271B Entry Number: 2
Name: Peggy Alexandra Bulgen Death Date: 8 Nov 1994 Death Place: Enfield Middx Probate Date: 15 Mar 1995 Probate Registry: Ipswich
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ErikaH
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28 Aug 2020 15:36 |
Name: Joyce E Gale [Joyce E Randall] Gender: Female Marital status: Single Birth Date: 23 Sep 1922 Residence Year: 1939
Marriages Dec 1950 (>99%) GALE Joyce E RANDALL Edmonton 5e 741 GALE Joyce E WRANGLES Edmonton 5e 741 S Randall Albert E Gale Edmonton 5e 741 WRANGLES Albert E GALE Edmonton 5e 741
First name(s) JOYCE ELIZABETH Last name RANDALL Gender Female Birth day 23 Birth month 9 Birth year 1922 Death quarter 2 Death year 2006 District Hitchin & Stevenage District number 5341A Register number 24A Entry number 268 Date of registration mm/yy 0606
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Maddie
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28 Aug 2020 15:38 |
1911 giving full names
164 Northampton Buildings Clerkenwell E C, St James and St John Clerkenwell, London & Middlesex, England
William George Smith Head Married Male 48 1863 Taxi Cab Driver London Clerkenwell Elizabeth Smith Wife Married Female 48 1863 - London St Giles William John Smith Son Single Male 25 1886 Coachman London St James Clerkenwell Sydney Thomas Smith Son Single Male 19 1892 Porter London St James Clerkenwell Albert George Smith Son Single Male 17 1894 Builders Labourer London St James Clerkenwell Frederick Charles Smith Son Single Male 14 1897 Errand Boy London St James Clerkenwell Walter Lewis Smith Son Single Male 13 1898 - London St James Clerkenwell Leonard Arthur Smith Son Single Male 10 1901 - London St James Clerkenwell Alice May Smith Daughter - Female 6 1905 - London St James Clerkenwell
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ErikaH
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28 Aug 2020 15:46 |
Additional info for 1911
9 children born in 27 years of marriage - all living
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Rose
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29 Aug 2020 09:51 |
Omg thank you so much, all that writing up is now done, on to the next lol
Thank you Alviegal and ErikaH So very grateful
Rose
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30 Aug 2020 08:56 |
Hello again, Please can you help me with Walter Lewis Smith born Oct 1897 and Alice May Smith born 22/1/1905
The last I can see of them is on 1911 census.
Thank you Rose
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