Genealogy Chat

Welcome to the boards Colin

As Karen's last post was 2 years ago, it might be best to send her a personal message (PM) by clicking on her name.

As long as she has the same email address and is able to access it, she will be notified of your interest.

Karen:
I have a rather large one name NZ "Kennedy Index" {around 15000 Kennedy names} which includes the New Zealand BDM details of those family members you are looking for and who came to New Zealand: I have only just come across your inquiry and note the length of time since you requested information: if you are still looking for the NZ details just let me know.
Regards
Colin Kennedy
New Zealand

Morning Erin and Maura..

Just an update on my search for Margaret and her family..

After 'googling' several names from the census of 1901 and 1901, I had a hit on the "Roots.com' chat line, so joined and email these people who were mentioned .. a hit

Margaret and Madge(shd read Matilda) are sisters, a lot of wrong info has transpired but its all now sorted , after my input and lots of double checking.
Maragrets family (parents and siblings) do move back to Scotland after 1911, several siblings end up New Zealand.

So again tks for all your help .. all really helpful

Cheers
Karen of Brisbane :-D :-D

I have my tree on Ancestry, its a private tree. I am about to enter what info we have now found and see what 'hints' occurr ...

Have just looked at the 'proni' website and found the will of John Maxwell, and entered a few Kennedy names as well, with a few maybes, hard with no death ages...

At this stage I cannot find any arrival details for Maggie/Margaret and John M Kennedy, have looked at FMP.

I did find Johns death in NZ although it says 1918..
I know in my 'pile' of search info, I proved to myself this other 'Kennedy' family with similar names was not related ( I have looked at so many Kennedys, I am going crazy), .. I think I had them on electoral rolls in NZ c 1911 and had found my lot on the 1911 census of Ireland ...

Once again , tks for all your help, I am most gratefull :-D :-D

Herbert ( Maggie/Marg husband) is my gggrandfathers brother, who has a very colourful past. So far we have unearthed 1 liasion in UK with a child and no marriage, and 2 marriages in NZ ... so the searching has been interesting with lots of twists and turns..

I am about to look more newspapers in NZ, to see if I can find John..

Cheers
Karen :-) :-)

Karen...if you have been looking at the Tree from Ancestry it may be that iit is incorrect unless there is primary source info to back it up....I don't have access or use the site so cant comment.....
Have you evidence that any of the other Kennedys went to NZ..?

Morning,

Yes, it was bedtime ....

The info is amazing, but the family from Scotland is wrong, I had also seen this and traced it backwards and forwards.

My Margaret Maxwell Kennedy marries Herbert Charlton Woodbridge in 1917 in NZ. I found a notice in the NZ paper, about the couple and where they were from,( although the spelling of Margarets home town was off the planet, and again I had to ask GR readers for help) .. although by Margarets death notice, her age is different and this is where I went wrong, also never thought to use Maggie in the searches.... many tks to you both :-D :-D

Three heads are much better than one .....

I will try the sights you refer to today and see what happens....

Cheers
Karen

Given the 2nd surnames and some of the Christian names...eg Gordon..I agree there is likely Scottish influence a couple generations back...
Will need to wait until Karen returns to see if your findings match her Margaret...I am sure they will...
Think it's probably bedtime in Brisbane at the moment...

This is Jane 1911, she married a David Kelly 1907 Newton Crommelin

Census Years1911AntrimKirkinriolaCraigywarrenResidents of a house
Residents of a house 52 in Craigywarren (Kirkinriola, Antrim)
Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living
Kelly David 35 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Co Antrim Farmer and Blacksmith Master Read and write - Married - 3 3 3
Kelly Elizabeth Jane 31 Female Wife Presbyterian Co Antrim - Read and write - Married - 3 3 3
Kelly Mary Jane Swann 3 Female Daughter Presbyterian Fifeshire Scotland - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Kelly John Alexander 1 Male Son Presbyterian Fifeshire Scotland - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Kelly Robert Male Son Presbyterian Co Antrim - Cannot read - Single

Well if its right, Karen's Kennedy ancestors come from Scotland

Thanks a million for picking this up Maura....knew you would find the missing pieces of the jigsaw...,,,!!

There a tree on ancestry with John Alexander Kennedy & Elizabeth Maxwell in it with all their children.

Elizabeth Jane 1879 -1953 died in Canada
James 1881- 1972 died in Scotland
Madge 1883 -1945 died New Zealand [could this be Margaret, she married to a George Turkington]
Joseph Maxwell 1885 died USA
Max 1887- 1887
Mary Ann 1889- 1965 died in Scotland
Matilda 1890 went to New Zealand
Hugh Bradshaw 1892 -1964 died New Zealand
John Max 1892 -1917 died New Zeland
Crawford Alexander Dunseth 1894 -1971 died in Scotland
William Alexander 1896 - 1914 died in Ireland
Gordon Maxwell 1897 went to the USA
Frederic Walter 1899 went to the USA
Helen Loiusa 1901 -1903

Name: Lizzie Kennedy
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 10 Nov 1879
Birth Place: Newtonerumlin, Antrim, Ireland
Father's Name: John Alexander Kennedy
Mother's name: Lizzie Maxwell Kennedy

Name: James Kennedy
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 28 Feb 1881
Birth Place: New Concrumlin, Antrim, Ireland
Father's Name: John Alexander Kennedy
Mother's name: Elizabeth Maxwell Kennedy

Eected by John A and Lizzie Kennedy, Newtowncrumlin, in loving memory of their dear children, William A, died, 15th January 1914, aged 18 years, Helen L, died, 20th February 1904, aged 1 year and 9 months, John M, who died in New Zealand, 13th August 1915, aged 26 years

John Allen Kennedy married Elizabeth Maxwell 7th Feb 1879 Newtown Crommelin Presbyterian Church

middle name of John probably mistranscribed

John father's a James
Elizabeth father's a John

Karen...Found it on family Search.....also marriage of Crawford AD (1914)...
We really need "Maura" onto this one for you shes as good as they come for finding Records in the North....!!

Erin

Re :the birth .. You are amazing, and I thank you so much ..
did you find these records on familysearch or ancestry ???.. I really have been researching this lady for days and just missing something everytime....
I WAS NOT NOT LOOKING OUTSIDE THE SQUARE 'ENOUGH'

I have looked on FMP and the shipping records .. but will try again ..

Tks so much
Karen <3 <3

The area my ancestors came from had surviving 1831 census records but I think my family must have moved to Scotland by then.

However, I read that if they claimed for a pension later on (i.e. I think it said from 1909) they sometimes referred back to the earlier census records i.e. 1841 census to confirm details. At that point those particular records hadn't been destroyed.

Karen...Here is Margarets Birth....



name: Maggie Maxwell Kennedy
registration district: Ballymena
event type: BIRTHS
registration quarter and year: Oct - Dec 1882
volume number: 1
page number: 107
digital folder number: 4193459

Karen ..have you checked the Ships Passenger Lists for Margaret...?


Have checked Griffiths Valuation (Skerry) for both Maxwell and Kennedy...no Maxwell and only 1 Kennedy...

Kennedy William Skerry East Newton Cromlin Antrim

Tks again Erin..

You have been most helpfull .. will let you know how I go..

Tks
Karen :-D :-D