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Ok, I have this gent, born 1884/6. Austwick,/ Skipton.
Then I have him sailing to the USA and dying in Pennsylvania in 1983.
Was happy with that.
(Not him dying.)
But now I have found a Caleb born Austwick/Skipton 1884 ended
up a Chelsea Pensioner. He was just 18 y/o when he joined. I don't think this is possible. Any ideas please?
anne.

Only seeing one Caleb Dryden birth on Freebmd for c 1884

British Army Service Records 1760-1915

First name(s): Caleb
Last name: DRYDEN
Calculated year of birth: 1884
Parish of birth: Austwick
Town of birth: Settle
County of birth: Yorkshire
Age at attestation: 18 years
Attestation date: 1 November 1902
Attestation corps: King's Royal Rifle Corps
Attestation soldier number: 5054
Discharge rank:
Discharge corps:
Discharge soldier number:
The National Archives reference: WO97


enlisted 1902
discharged 11th October 1905 at his own request

Mother - Margaret Dryden
Elder brother - Robert

He didn't marry until 1915 , so when did he sail to US?

Name: Caleb Dryden
Gender: Male
Departure Date: 2 Oct 1909
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: New York, USA
Ship Name: Campania
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Campania' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Cunard Line
Official Number: 102086
Master: R C Wass


Occupation of warehouseman

So it there two of the same name


Name: Caleb Dryden
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1897
Registration District: Alston
Inferred County: Cumberland
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 743
Records on Page: Name
Cooper Doyle
Caleb Dryden
Mary Ann Hodgson
Mary Jane Thompson


This one appears to have been born in 1872

Caleb seemed to be the family name, the first one I found was in the 1700's, Then there were least four!
He sailed to USA in 1909 but I had him on a different ship.
Thanks to all but still wonder how he got to be a Chelsea Pensioner?
I found that bit on the link that asks if you had any war heroes in the family. Maybe they got it wrong eh?
Thanks again for your help everyone..
anne.

U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918

Name: Caleb Dryden
City: Philadelphia
County: Philadelphia
State: Pennsylvania
Birthplace: England
Birth Date: 21 Sep 1887
Race: White
Draft Board: 18

Born Austwick, England.

No date on the document but he was 30 so guess around 1917?

He was a process worker for Barretts at Bridgeburg?

Married with 2 children.

Unfortunately, there are no parents names given on this marriage:

Pennsylvania, Church and Town Records, 1708-1985

Name: Caleb Dryden
Birth Date: abt 1889
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 5 Oct 1915
Marriage Place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Spouse Name: Agnes Graham
Organization Name: Simpson Memorial United Methodist Church

He was 26 and a cloth examiner, she was 20.

Is it possible that he was what was referred to as an "out pensioner"? That is someone who was in receipt of a pension but not living in the Royal Chelsea Hospital.

On the arrival record for the 2 October 1909 departure posted above his name is crossed out indicating he didn't travel. Looks like he actually departed a week or so later:

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Caleb Dryden
Arrival Date: 22 Oct 1909
Birth Date: abt 1886
Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: austrick
Age: 23
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Lusitania

He was a warehouseman. His nok in England was a Mrs Greenwooed, Little Harton Lane, Bradford. Coincidentally, he was going to a Mrs Greenwood at 3526 Braddock Street,Philadelphia.

He was 5' 6" tall with fair complexion, brown hair and blue eyes.

The Chelsea Pensioners service record has Caleb Dryden on enlistment in 1902 with fresh complexion, brown hair, blue eyes and 5' 4½" tall.

The Ellis Island site is for immigrants into the US from about 1892 to about 1824

This shows on there



1. Caleb Dryden Bradford, England 1909 23
2. Caleb Dryden Bristol, England 1909 23


just about to open the records!

This is Caleb number 1


First Name: Caleb
Last Name: Dryden
Ethnicity: England, English
Last Place of Residence: Bradford, England
Date of Arrival: Oct 22, 1909
Age at Arrival: 23y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Lusitania
Port of Departure: Liverpool
Manifest Line Number: 0006


from image:-

Warehouseman

Name and address of closest relative in UK:-
(friend) Mrs Greenwood, 852 Little Horton Lane, Bradford

Going to Philadelphia, PA

who paid your passage:- Self

How much money do you have:- $25

where are you going:-
(friend) Mr. H. Greenwood, 3526 Braddock Street, Philadelphia

Good health
5' 6" Fair Complexion, Hair brown,, eyes blue
no identfying marks

Born Austwick, England

This is Caleb number 2

weird!!!!!!!


Passenger Record

First Name: Caleb
Last Name: Dryden
Ethnicity: England, English
Last Place of Residence: Bristol, England
Date of Arrival: Oct 22, 1909
Age at Arrival: 23y Gender: F Marital Status: W
Ship of Travel: Lusitania
Port of Departure: Liverpool
Manifest Line Number: 0001



The actual image of the Passenger Manifest covers 2 pages.

The image actually shows that they started registering Caleb Dryden as number 6, got half way through the registering, and then realised that they had confused him with a Walter Humphreys, a 62 year old man, so they crossed out the information on page 2 ......... leaving it as is on page 1.




It is VERY confused!!


I don't think I have ever seen a record quite like this one!!


The web site is http://www.ellisisland.org/

You have to register with them, but it is free.





sylvia

There are several trees on ancestry with Caleb


but they all have him dying in 1980 in New York??

Draft Registration Card, WW1


U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Caleb Dryden
Name: Caleb Dryden
City: Philadelphia
County: Philadelphia
State: Pennsylvania
Birthplace: England
Birth Date: 21 Sep 1887
Race: White
Draft Board: 18

from image:-

Age: 30

Address:- 4766 Tacony (?? Jacony) St, Phuladelphia, PA

Occupation: Process "work".

Employed by: Barrett & Co, Bridebury (??sp)

Nearest Relative: Wife and 2 children

Height/Build:

Colour of Eyes/Hair:

Signature:




U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project) about Caleb Dryden

Name: Caleb Dryden
Birth Date: 21 Sep 1886
Age at event: 60
Court District: Pennsylvania
Date of Action: 4 Feb 1947

from image:-

No. 6877215
Address:- 2556 N. Reese St., Phil. 33, PA





Social Security Death Index about Caleb Dryden

Name: Caleb Dryden
SSN: 179-01-4503
Last Residence: 12066 Esperance, Montgomery, New York, United States of America
Born: 21 Sep 1886
Died: Oct 1980
State (Year) SSN issued: Pennsylvania (Before 1951)



That death does seem to be him.

Thank you all, yet again.
MarieCeleste, maybe he shrunk with age? I do have his parents names already.
Yes, he did die in the USA as stated.
Must have been an adventurous lad. Joined up twice in two different counties.
Shot over to the USA between them both. Wow.
Thanks, SylviainCanada, Choccy, Panda,China.2008 and MarieCeleste,rootgather and Glitterbaby.
anne.

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