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Several months ago I requested help in finding my grandfather Alfred Adams. I am unable to find that thread so apologise in advance for partially repeating myself. My grandfather married Cicely Hedden in 1921 and they had 2 children Leslie and Marjorie. They divorced around 1930. Although through their marriage certificate I have now been able to go back several generations on both sides I seem unable to progress with what might have happened to Alfred Adams after they divorced. They both came from Tooting in London where they still lived as far as I know at the time of the divorce. I would like to find out if he married again and had any further children. Has anyone any suggestions please as to how I might progress. Thank you in advance.

If he remarried it should show on FreeBMD

What year was he born ?

Have you looked for his death

He was born in 1902 to Herbert Henry Adams and Mary Ann Putnam.

the other thread:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1341173

Is this his birth ? Tooting came under Wandsworth reg district

Name: Alfred Adams
Registration Year: 1900
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Wandsworth
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 611

Or this one

Name: Alfred Adams
Registration Year: 1901
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Wandsworth
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 738

Have you managed to track down his birth? If you have a birth date, this can be used to look for a death, though only for those registered after 1969.
Jan

Maybe

Name: Alfred Adams
Birth Date: abt 1901
Date of Registration: Jun 1966
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Stepney
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5e
Page: 98

More likely to be the 1901 as he was 20 when he married in 1922. He was 9 in the 1911 census which is why I thought it was 1902. Will look at both those deaths. Is there anywhere you can check divorce records?

More likely to be the 1901 as he was 20 when he married in 1922. He was 9 in the 1911 census which is why I thought it was 1902. Will look at both those deaths. Is there anywhere you can check divorce records?

The refs I posted are births not deaths :-)

Try searching here for divorce records.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/divorce.htm

The survival rate of divorce case files is:

1858-1927: almost 100%
1928-1937: 80%
After 1937 : less than 0.2%

If it was before 1937, you might be lucky!

born 18th May 1901


NOTE - although mother's name given as Lily May, the address is 4 Hazlehurst Road and they were at this address in 1901

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Alfred Adams

Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 4 Aug 1901

Father's Name: Herbert Henry Adams (0ccupation - Decorator)

Mother's name: Lily May Adams

Parish or Poor Law Union: Summers Town
Borough: Wandsworth
Register Type: Parish Registers

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name: Alfred Adams

>>>>>>>>>>Birth Date: 18 May 1901

Date of Registration: Mar 1978

Age at Death: 76

Registration district: Merton
Inferred County: Greater London

Volume: 14
Page: 1097

Am very confused now as I thought I had found the right Alfred Adams---father Herbert Henry Adams1864-1952 and mother Mary Ann Putnam 1863 but now it seems as if I might have the wrong Herbert Henry and your first suggestion might be the correct one as on Alfred and Cicely's marriage certificate his father's occupation was house painter. Thank you Choccy. It looks as if I will have to research again as it appears I have been following the wrong Alfred Adams. Thanks also 'detective' for information re divorce research. Will get cracking on that too!

Why do you think you may have the wrong Alfred Adams? Don't be confused by the baptism I posted. I'm almost certain the name of Alfred's mother is wrong. The address on the baptism entry is 4 Hazlehurst Road. On the 1901 census are Herbert Henry, MARY ANN, May, Herbert and William.

On the 1911 census they are living at 3 Hazlehurst Road -

1911 England Census

Name: Herbert H Adams

Age in 1911: 47

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864

Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male

Birth Place: Kent, England

Civil Parish: Wandsworth
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 3 Hazelhurst Road, Tooting SW

Marital Status: Married

Occupation: HOUSE PAINTER

Registration district: Wandsworth
Registration District Number:26
Sub-registration district:Streatham
ED, institution, or vessel:1
Piece:2286

Herbert H Adams 47

Mary Ann Adams 48

Willie Adams 13

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Alfred Adams 9

Florence Adams 8

Albert Adams 5

Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 2286.

Sorry not to get back to you sooner Choccy but thanks for that. Having looked at everything you put I too think I had the right Alfred Adams in the first place. Have looked through lots of sites purporting to be free for divorce records but have either found its just a free trial or there is no relevant information. Am beginning to wonder ifAlfred and Cicely ever did divorce or if it was just something she told my mother. I do know that she never remarried. Have never sent for a death certificate so don't know what information they give to help you be certain you have the right person. Am reluctant to start sending for them as I am only assuming he died in London. It could have been anywhere in the world!!!

What about that death I posted? - baptism stated he was born on 18th May 1901 and the death index gives a birth date of 18th May 1901. In all probability it is your Alfred Adams. The certificate will at least show who registered the death, who may or may not be a relative, and hopefully where he was living.

Does seem as if he is one and the same. Will send for the certificate and will let you know what it says. Have just accessed a number of divorces on National Archives butnone of them match. Think that is a dead avenue. Thanks for all your help Choccy. Regards Wendy

Fingers crossed it's him :-)