Genealogy Chat

I am a member of the Cornwall Family History Society & have looked for the birth of these children but with no positive siting, I have checked under the name Searle & Julian so perhaps they were not baptised

Jean

Probably Jean with her Cornish connections has already concidered this - might his family have been non-conformists?
http://www.bmdregisters.co.uk/

If so, a baptism wouldn't appear in Established Church records nor, for that matter, on RC ones.

The thing is that two of the children were baptised ( Susan Jane in Redruth, and Mary Anne in Sancreed). So it is likely that the others were also.

The missing ones are:
Edward abt 1833
John Thomas Searle abt 1836
Emily abt 1845

There is a birth registered for Emily Ann Julian in Truro 1846 AMJ 9/323 would this be your Emily if so the birth certificate would give the name of father & mother's maiden name.

Have just found the baptism of the above St Mary's Truro father was John but mother was Elizabeth Brenton so doesn't appear to be your Emily

that serendipitous census found by Jacqueline when she was looking for the 'wrong' thing :-) (I have had that happen too, it's amazing how luck works sometimes)

if John Julian's parents were not married and he was given his mother's surname ... perhaps his father was Searle and he chose to go by that name in adulthood

that would certainly fit with / explain the facts we seem to have, and would not be at all unusual

I'm not quite sure how it fits with his mother being baptised Susanna Roberts Julian *Dotson* ... but it's a work in progress :-)


edit - ah, the baptism record actually goes like this

Day Month 29-Mar
Year 1789
Parish Or Reg District Martin in Meneage, St.
Forename Susanna Roberts
Surname JULIAN/DOTSON
Father Forename Thomas DOTSON
Mother Forename Mary JULIAN

it is very unusual for the mother's surname to be mentioned so it seems her parents were not married

familysearch has assigned the surname Dotson but that may not be justified

To confirm Joonie's post this is the relevant image.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11819-84197-68?cc=1769414&wc=3CB4-DPY:138123201,141878801,1582894414
Top right hand side.

It is written twice, the first entry being put in the wrong year.

Interesting that one of the preceding entries was a Susannah Kempthorne Roberts (daughter of John & Alice Roberts)

heh Kense, it's interesting for another reason for me ... I recently helped someone solve a Kempthorne mystery so I'm going to draw that to her attention :-)

so it seems that both John Searle/Julian and his mother Susanna Dotson/Julian had a choice of surnames

Susanna was a Julian by her unmarried mother's surname, making John a Julian by his unmarried mother's surname, but both Susanna and John seem to have used their father's surnames (Dotson, Searle) socially.

Hi Everyone! :-D

I hope everyone is well?

I have come back from a family holiday and have found that we are still missing the information on the other 3 children's births/baptisms.

I have since found out that John Julian (John Roberts Julian) b. 1811 was admitted into a benevolent asylum and it states that his parents were JOHN and SUSANNAH and not the John and Elizabeth which I have been trying to work out for years from Family stories.

I visited all the grave sites and have written down the dates of death for all the children and the birth years work out as follows:

John Thomas Searle Julian 1832 his death was 11 Nov 1899 and on his headstone it has aged 67 yrs old)

Emily is 1845 as her death says 1920 aged 75 yrs old

Edward is 1835 as death is 1867 aged 32 yrs old.

I was told by a family member that the children were baptised in St. Just but I have no idea if that is correct. (As I have found out family stories can be oh so wrong) LOL...

I am pretty certain that the Searle family census information is 100% correct, there is no other Julian census information that even remotely comes close.

It is still a mystery why all the children were given the ages as still living on Mary Ann's Death Cert.

Ok so now we have the correct years for the kids, how are we going to find them? Do I need to email each of the OPC people? I have checked and checked the Cornwall OPC until my eyes are burning, I just cannot find the Birth info, maybe it was destroyed or something? OR another crazy thought, maybe the children were sort of Adopted? I am literally going mad trying to find this information.

Any help of course is always greatly appreciated, and look forward to chatting some more with you on the boards.

Kindest Regards,
Allison