Genealogy Chat

Yes the guys on Sheffield indexers have been fabulous and more or less solved the mystery. They had the marriage on their site too!
Just waiting for the birth cert to confirm everything.
Thanks so much!

this must be them in 1888 census


Mary E Wilcox
England and Wales Census, 1881
Name: Mary E Wilcox
Age (Original): 6
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1875
Birthplace: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Scholar
Address: 2 Netherthorpe Pl
Event Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Record Type: Household
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 4645 / 96
Page Number: 2
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Henry Wilcox Head M 35 Belgium
Emma Wilcox Wife F 31 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Mary E Wilcox Daughter F 6 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Harriett N Wilcox Daughter F 4 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Elizabeth Wilcox Daughter F 2 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

looks like they had a few children

Henricus Wilcox
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 3 June 1883 St. Vincent of Paul, Sheffield, York, England
residence: Sheffield, York, England
father: Henrici Wilcox
mother: Emmae Cook

Emma Wilcox
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 24 July 1881 St. Vincent of Paul, Sheffield, York, England
residence: Sheffield, York, England
father: Henrici Wilcox
mother: Emmae Cook

Harrietta Norton Wilcox
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 29 October 1876 St. Vincent of Paul, Sheffield, York, England
residence: Sheffield, York, England
father: Henrici Wilcox
mother: Emmae Cook

Alfridus Gulielmus Wilcox
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 19 July 1885 St. Vincent of Paul, Sheffield, York, England
residence: Sheffield, York, England
father: Henrici Wilcox
mother: Emm

Elizabeth Wilcox
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 24 November 1878 St. Vincent of Paul, Sheffield, York, England
residence: Sheffield, York, England
father: Henrici Wilcox
mother: Emmae Cooke

Maria Allen Wilcox
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 11 April 1875 St. Vincent of Paul, Sheffield, York, England
residence: Sheffield, York, England
father: Henrici Wilcox
mother: Emmae Cooke

Cecelia Wilcox
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 21 June 1891 St. Vincent of Paul, Sheffield, York, England
residence: Sheffield, York, England
father: Henrici Wilcox
mother: Emma Cooke

this could be clara the age matches death age in 1960

Clara Josephine Wilcox
England and Wales, Birth Registration Index
Name: Clara Josephine Wilcox
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1888
Registration District: Sheffield
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Clara Josephina Wilcox
England Births and Christenings
Name: Clara Josephina Wilcox
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 13 May 1888
Christening Place: St. Vincent of Paul, Sheffield, York, England
Father's Name: Henrici Wilcox
Mother's Name: Emmae Cook

So his parents seem to have been Frederick Henry Askham and Clara Josephine Wilcox married 1912 but civil registration seems to be missing

Frederick died 1955 and Clara 1960 both Sheffield

http://www.sheffieldindexers.com/

(from looking round on above, is below query relating?)

http://sheffieldindexers.com/FamilyFinderIndex.html

Chris :)

Askham Frederick Wilcox Wortley 9c 704 ,

This possibly could be another brother,

The mother although Wilcox is her maiden name,she could have been previously married and re-married as a widow in her then married surname.,so there wont be a marriage for Askham and Wilcox,,,,,

A birth certificate would at least give her christian name and that of the father so making it easier to find a marriage.

Aww thanks I really appreciate it. Maybe she had another name as had been married before . Will have to wait til the birth cert comes

hi
have spent ages looking but no luck sorry

Thanks Yvonne, i have those already, it was his parents marriage(if they were married) that i couldn't find :)

Maurice Askham
England and Wales, Death Registration Index 1837-2007
Name: Maurice Askham
Event Type: Death Registration
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1981
Registration District: Sheffield
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Birth Date (available after June quarter 1969): 21 Jun 1914
Volume: 3
Page: 1329
Line Number: 77

Maurice Askham
England and Wales, Birth Registration Index
Name: Maurice Askham
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1914
Registration District: Sheffield
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3): Wilcox
Volume: 9C
Page: 1225

Yes I still can't find a marriage cert so have sent for his birth certificate
Thanks

it may be best to buy the birth certificate to see his parents actual names .

You can then look for their births and later census details

These could all potentially be siblings -
Alfred Askham
Apr-May-Jun 1917 Wortley Yorkshire
View Record
Bernard Askham
Oct-Nov-Dec 1926 Wortley Yorkshire West Riding
View Record
Reginald A Askham
Oct-Nov-Dec 1931 Wortley Yorkshire West Riding
View Record
Josephine M Askham
Jan-Feb-Mar 1916 Sheffield Yorkshire West Riding
View Record
Vincent Askham
Jan-Feb-Mar 1920 Wortley Yorkshire West Riding
View Record
Joseph B Askham
Apr-May-Jun 1924 Wortley Yorkshire

Yes i believe he did have a sister so that is almost certainly her.
Re the other Maurice, i think his parents lived in Sheffield but can't be 100%.
Also i believe he had a couple of brothers from what my Dad remembers.

Maurice was like a Grandfather to me as he lodged with my Grandmother but died when i was 8yrs old.

Walter and Maurice are on 1901 as LISTER

Maurice Askham Lister b1887


Name: Maurice Askham-Lister
Birth Date: 17 Oct 1887
Parish: Armley, St Bartholomew
Baptism Date: 26 Apr 1892
Father's name: David Askham-Lister
Mother's name: Louisa Askham-Lister



possible ?
Name: Maurice Askham
Birth Date: abt 1887
Date of Registration: Dec 1963
Age at Death: 76
Registration district: Leeds
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 2c
Page: 346

Possible sister:
Birth
First name(s) JOSEPHINE M
Last name ASKHAM
Birth year 1916
Birth quarter 1
Mother's last name WILCOX
District SHEFFIELD
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9C
Page 1065

I wonder if this could be his father (or another relative) in the 1911 census:-

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
10 Halifax Place, Armley and Bramley, Yorkshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation

Louisa Lister Head Not Married Female 57 1854 Bradford Yorks -
Walter Askham Son Single Male 27 1884 Leeds Yorks General Engineers Fitter
Maurice Askham Son Single Male 23 1888 Leeds Yorkshire Spindle Flyer Maker
Hilda Askham Daughter Single Female 18 1893 Leeds Yorkshire Vest Hand

Kath. x

Hmmm i honestly don't know. Probably need to order his birth cert.