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I am back as far as about 1739 with the Emery line Alan.

How far back are you with the Emery line.

Alan

Fantastic Alan thank-you sooo much.

Could you please tell me where you found that information? Perhaps I need to subscribe to another site.

My Sarah Bessant is definitely the one who married Henry Emery. She is my 3x Grt Grandmother.

Off to look for a Christine Bessant.

Hi David.

Henry's marriage 1829 Witnesses. Robert Bessant, Rebecca Miller, Sarah Bessant

Ann's marriage 1832 Witnesses. John Grist, Mary Grist, William Michell.

Elizabeth's marriage 1834 Witnesses. Joseph Laver, Christine Bessant.

Charles marriage 1836 Witnesses. John Reed, Ann Reed.

Harriett's marriage** 1837 Witnesses. George Gewr, Sarah Bessant

**? that 1841 marriage.

This is the other Sarah Bessant marriage I found.

Name: Sarah Bessant
Spouse: Charles James Avery
Marriage: 7 Feb 1832 - St. Mary'S, Southampton, Hampshire, England
Residence: Southampton

Witnesses. Joseph Avery, Mary Avery.

Alan.

Hi Alan.

Yes that is one of mine thankyou. I know because I found it about 10 minutes ago....lol

I have been at it since 7.50 this morning!

Hi David.

Sorry I could not be of help with those two marriages you asked for.
Could this one be one of yours.

Name: Harriet Bessant
Spouse: Charles Street
Marriage: 14 Feb 1841 - Millbrook, Hampshire, England
Residence: Millbrook, Hampshire

1851 Census.
Name: Harriet Street
Spouse: Charles Street
Birth: abt 1816 - Milbrook Southampton.
Residence: Southampton

Alan.

Thankyou once again Kucinta for all the information you have posted. It all ties in with my family.

It is good to know that I don't have to delete all the information that I added to my tree yesterday.

Still living in Winchester Street in 1871:


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Winchester Street, Botley, South Stoneham, Hampshire, England

Sarah Bessant Emery Head - Female 62 1809 - Hampshire, England

Image says born Millbrook, widow, formerly launderess.

I guess you probably had the census stuff already, hence your interest in MIllbrook born Bessants?

Is this your Sarah Emery nee Bessant in census 1851?


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Winchester Street, Botley, South Stoneham, Hampshire, England


Sarah Emery Head Widow Female 42 1809 Pauper F Laborer Wife Millbrook, Hampshire, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Alfred Emery Son Unmarried Male 17 1834 Laborer Botley, Hampshire, England
Emma Emery Daughter - Female 13 1838 At Home Bishops Waltham, Hampshire, England
William Emery Son - Male 5 1846 Scholar Botley, Hampshire, England
John Dear Visitor Unmarried Male 22 1829 Laborer Botley, Hampshire, England

and in 1841, living in the same street?

(ages of over 15s usually rounded down to nearest five years in the 1841)

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Winchester Street, Botley, North West (Part), Stoneham, South, Hampshire, England

Henry Emery Male 45 1796 Hampshire, England ag lab
Sarah Emery Female 30 1811 Hampshire, England
Alfred Emery Male 7 1834 Hampshire, England
Henry Emery Male 6 1835 Hampshire, England
Emma Emery Female 4 1837 Hampshire, England
Lydia Emery Female 80 1761 Hampshire, England
George Gosling Male 25 1816 Hampshire, England ag lab

Possible death for Fanny?

Millbrook comes under South Stoneham reg district.

Deaths Jun 1860 Bessant Fanny S.Stoneham 2c 39

or possibly:

Deaths Dec 1852
Besant Fanny S Hampton 2c 5
Bessant Fanny S Hampton 2c 7

Possible death for John?

First name(s) JOHN
Last name BESSANT
Age 44
Birth year 1779
Death year 1823
Death day 01
Death month May
Burial year 1823
Parish Millbrook
County Hampshire
Country England
Record set Hampshire Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

Fanny on 1851? if so, born in Hampshire this time (on image is says Hursley)

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Waterloo Building's, Milbrook, South Stoneham, Hampshire, England

Joseph Dawkins Head Married Male 30 1821 Sawyer Hampshire, England
Eliza Dawkins Wife Married Female 33 1818 - Winchester, Hampshire, England
Sarrah Dawkins Daughter - Female 6 1845 - Hampshire, England
Agnes Dawkins Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Hampshire, England
Fanny Beasant Lodger Widow Female 72 1779 Pauper Hampshire, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

EDIT: If you are correct that Fanny's maiden name was Haeth, this baptism would tie in with her birthplace on the 1851 census:


Hampshire baptisms Transcription

First name(s) FANNY
Last name HEATH
Birth year 1780
Baptism year 1780
Baptism day 15
Baptism month May
Son or daughter Daughter
First parent's first name(s) John
Second parent first name(s) Sarah
Parish HURSLEY
County Hampshire
Country England
Record set Hampshire baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

This could be Fanny, with possible daur Ann, who married John Read at Southampton St Mary in 1832 as posted earlier:


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Millbrook, Stoneham, South, Hampshire, England

Fanny Besent Female 63 1778 -
Ann Read Female 30 1811 -
Elizabeth Read Female 1 1840

Both women are washerwomen. However the jarring note is that all three are down as NOT born in county.

Wow Kucinta!

No, I didn't have that information already. But I do now.

I will delve further into the information you posted tomorrow and see where that takes me.

Thankyou so very much for your time.

As you've probably got already:

First name(s) ANNE
Last name BESANT
Birth year 1811
Baptism year 1811
Baptism day 28
Baptism month Apr
Son or daughter Daughter
First parent's first name(s) John
Second parent first name(s) Frances
Parish MILLBROOK
County Hampshire

Name: Harriet Bessant
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 27 Dec 1818
Christening Place: Millbrook, Hampshire, England
Father's Name: John Bessant
Mother's Name: Fanny Bessant
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02020-4 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 1041742

First name(s) CHARLES
Last name BESANT
Birth year 1814
Baptism year 1814
Baptism day 21
Baptism month Aug
Son or daughter Son
First parent's first name(s) John
Second parent first name(s) Fanny
Parish MILLBROOK
County Hampshire
Country England
Record set Hampshire baptisms

Maybe Charles, Harriet and Ann might be the ones who married Southampton St Mary?

Kucinta

I do believe you have confirmed the information I was hoping for.

After receiving the information from Alan that one of the witnesses on Sarah's marriage record was a George Bessant. I went on a search for a George Bessant.

I found the baptism record you found for a George Bezant-------Parents John and Fanny.

I also found the information for the Stephen Bessant (Besant) that you found-------Parents John and Fanny.

I have been researching since 8.15am today and added all the information I found for George and Stephen Bessant to my tree, just in case there was a connection. In the hope that Sarah, George and Stephen are siblings.

I have now found a baptism for Sarah.
Name:Sarah Besant
Gender:Female
Baptism Date:20 Nov 1808
Baptism Place:Millbrook, Hampshire, England
Father:John Besant
Mother: Frances Besant
FHL Film Number:1041742
Reference ID:item 4 p 21

Thank you so much for the information that you found. I now believe that Sarah, George and Stephen were siblings. The children of John and Frances (Fanny) Bessant.

Your time is very much appreciated.

I am on a roll. :-)

Possibly----------

John Bessant in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name:John Bessant
Gender:Male
Marriage Date:21 Jun 1800
Marriage Place:Millbrook, Hampshire, England
Spouse: Fanny Heath
FHL Film Number:1596324

Other Bessants also married at St Marys, like Sarah

First name(s) HENRY
Last name BESSANT
Marriage year 1829
Marriage day 27
Marriage month Sep
Place SOUTHAMPTON ST MARY
Groom's first name Henry
Groom's last name Bessant
Bride's first name Harriet
Bride's last name Haysom

First name(s) ANN
Last name BESSANT
Marriage year 1832
Marriage day 15
Marriage month Jan
Place SOUTHAMPTON ST MARY
Groom's first name John
Groom's last name Read
Bride's first name Ann
Bride's last name Bessant

First name(s) ELIZABETH
Last name BESSANT
Marriage year 1834
Marriage day 17
Marriage month Mar
Place SOUTHAMPTON ST MARY
Groom's first name Francis
Groom's last name Harris
Bride's first name Elizabeth
Bride's last name Bessant

First name(s) CHARLES
Last name BESSANT
Marriage year 1836
Marriage day 3
Marriage month Apr
Place SOUTHAMPTON ST MARY
Groom's first name Charles
Groom's last name Bessant
Bride's first name Fanny
Bride's last name West

First name(s) HARRIET
Last name BESSANT
Marriage year 1837
Marriage day 30
Marriage month Apr
Place SOUTHAMPTON ST MARY
Groom's first name William Wellington
Groom's last name Chidell
Bride's first name Harriet
Bride's last name Bessant
Groom's notes Widower

Possible baptisms for the bridegrooms at Millbrook you are interested in:

????

First name(s) STEPHEN
Last name BESANT
Birth year 1802
Baptism year 1802
Baptism day 24
Baptism month Jan
Son or daughter Son
First parent's first name(s) John
Second parent first name(s) Fanny
Parish MILLBROOK
County Hampshire
Country England
Record set Hampshire baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

First name(s) GEORGE
Last name BEZANT
Birth year 1805
Baptism year 1805
Baptism day 13
Baptism month Jan
Son or daughter Son
First parent's first name(s) John
Second parent first name(s) Fanny
Parish MILLBROOK
County Hampshire
Country England
Record set Hampshire baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

Hi again Alan

Sorry to trouble you again but I wonder if you might be able to find further details on this marriage.......

George Bessant in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name:George Bessant
Gender:Male
Marriage Date:26 Sep 1831
Marriage Place:Millbrook, Hampshire, England
Spouse: Fanny Moors
FHL Film Number:1041743
Reference ID:371

And.........

Stephen Bessant in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name:Stephen Bessant
Gender:Male
Marriage Date:29 Jul 1827
Marriage Place:Millbrook, Hampshire, England
Spouse: Sarah Ann Humby
FHL Film Number:1596325
Reference ID:91 - 92


I will check back on here later.

Thankyou David.

That is great Alan.

Thank-you very much for that added information. I had no idea of any of Sarah's family members so it's great to see that one of the witnesses was a George Bessant.

With a bit of luck I may be able to find some information about him.

Very much appreciated. :-)