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Would someone who has Find My Past membership
please be kind enough to check an address in the
1881 census for me.
I have John Hadley born around 1830 with
Sarah (1838) in the 1871 census and 1873 Electrol
Registers living at 9 Johnson Street, Shadwell,
Limehouse and cannot find them in the 1881
census so wonder if they are still living at that
address and have been mistranscribed.
They had a son George(1862), John(1864) and Albert Arthur(1870)
Sarah already had 3 children from a previous marriage
in the 1861 census. I have the family 1891.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Irene

For info.
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Johnson Street, St Paul Shadwell, Stepney, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Hadley Head - Male 41 1830 - London, Middlesex, England Gun Smith
Sarah Hadley Wife - Female 38 1833 - London, Middlesex, England Tailoress
Sarah Hadley Daughter - Female 16 1855 - London, Middlesex, England Tailoress
Mary Ann Hadley Daughter - Female 13 1858 - London, Middlesex, England
George Hadley Son - Male 9 1862 - London, Middlesex, England
John Hadley Son - Male 7 1864 - London, Middlesex, England
Albert Arthur Hadley Son - Male 1 1870 - London, Middlesex, England

Where do you have them in1891?

Thank you for your kind reply.
Sarah 16 and Mary Ann 13 are the children
from Sarah's previous marriage.
John is with his son John and his family
1891.Sarah died I have those details it is 1881 I cannot
find.
Many thanks Irene

Understand it's 1881 you can't find them, but have posted for info. so we who don't know places of birth and occupations etc might have a bit more info to work on.

Where are the family in 1891 please?

1 John's Garden
John Hadley 61
John Hadley 38
and his wife Harriett
plus the children.
I did not want people to waste their time looking for
info that I already have.
John was a Gun maker/Gun Smith/Blacksmith
in other information. Thank you again for your help.
Regards Irene

So still in the Stepney area (John's Gardens could have been anywhere) but John Senior now a Dock Labourer, so not necessarily looking for a Gun Smith aback in 1881

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Johns Gardens, Limehouse, Stepney, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Hadley Head Widower Male 61 1830 Dock Labourer Shadwell, Middlesex, England
John Hadley Son Married Male 27 1864 Coal Porter Shadwell, Middlesex, England
Harriet Hadley Daughter In Law Married Female 25 1866 Caster Whitechapel, Middlesex, England
Albert Hadley Son Single Male 21 1870 Tank Maker St George, London, England
Charles Hadley Son Single Male 19 1872 Tank Maker St George, Middlesex, England
John Hadley Grandson - Male 6 1885 - Limehouse, Middlesex, England
Albert Hadley Grandson - Male 4 1887 - Sevenoaks, Kent, England
George Hadley Grandson - Male 2 1889 - Limehouse, Middlesex, England
Harriet Hadley Granddaughter - Female 0 1891 - Limehouse, Middlesex, England

EDIT doesn't seem likely does it!

???

Name: John Eardley
Age: 56
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Sarah Eardley
Gender: Male
Where born: Barnet, Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 12 Colonnade
Marital Status: Married


Employment status:

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Occupation: General Labourer
Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Grays Inn Lane
ED, institution, or vessel: 6a

Piece: 192
Folio: 37
Page Number: 24

John Eardley 56
Sarah Eardley 47
Charles Eardley 7
Arthur Eardley 4
Alfred Edwards 22

No I am sure that is not them but a good find.
Thank you anyway.
Regards Irene

The Sarah in 1881 above is a needlewoman, which might match as Sarah 1871 is a seamstress. But the rest is too different I think/

Just to absolutely rule them out, I have found the Eardly family 1891.

Might be another child?? Just because father is a dock labourer, as is John 1891. Can anyone make out address?

Name: Thomas Hobbs Hadley
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 3 Nov 1878
Father's name: John Hadley
Mother's name: Sarah Hadley
Parish or Poor Law Union: Stepney St Philip
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

A badly written Turner Street? Definitely starting with a T

Hobbs was Sarah's maiden name so could
well be another son.
Looks like Turner Street.
Many thanks Irene

Still no luck Irene. Can I just ask what surname Sarah & her children had before she married John Hadley? When did they marry? Just to double-check no mix-ups with name 1881. Seems silly perhaps, but you never know - stranger things have happened!

Sarah Hobbs married Thomas James Gill in 1852 then in
1861 you find her lodging with John Hadley with her 3 Gill
children. I have the birth certs of John Hadley 1864 and
Albert Arthur 1870 which confirm that Sarah Hobbs/Gill is
their mother. I have not found a marriage for Sarah and John
Hadley.
Many thanks for your help. Irene

Where are they Irene? I can't spot them 1861! What are their names and when/where were they born?
Jan

Is this them??

Name: Sarah Gill Hadley
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: 1833
Relation: Widowed Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Wapping, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St George in the East
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Middlesex

Registration district: St George In The East
Sub-registration district: St Paul

John Hadley 31 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England
Sarah Gill Hadley 28
John Thomas (7 yrs I think) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Sarah Ann Thomas 5 St George, Middlesex, England
Mary Ann Thomas 3 St George, Middlesex, England

yes that's the Gill children.
Looks like the mother and John Hadley
got together and went on to have their
own children.
Many thanks for looking for me.
Regards Irene

I am cross with myself that I got rid of my 1881 census discs
as I could have searched them and found the answer to my
request who lived at the addresses I have for 1891 census.
Looks like I am not going to find the family in the 1881 census
online.
Regards Irene

I have found 1 John's gardens 1881. I am sure this is the same place, as it leads to Repton St., as in 1891. This family is there:

1881
Name: Alfred Scott
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Josephine Scott
Gender: Male
Where born: Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Limehouse
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 1 Johns Gdns
Marital Status: Married

Occupation: Lbrer
Registration district: Stepney

Alfred Scott 43
Josephine Scott 33
Annie Scott 11
William Scott 9
Fanny Scott 7
Rebecca Scott 4
Emily Scott 2
Edith Scott