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2 Nov 2015 12:34 |
Just out of interest, the 1939 register index
1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION (PREVIEW) Household Lewisham, London, England
FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) BIRTH YEAR Alice B Gaunt (Kershaw,Eade) 1904 1 more person who is officially closed
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2 Nov 2015 06:52 |
Marriages Sep 1894 (>99%) Hamshaw Ellen Keighley 9a 293 Kershaw Harry Keighley 9a 293 Longbottom Ada Keighley 9a 293 Smith John William Keighley 9a 293
1901 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9RB-937 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9RB-93M [TAYLOR JOURNEYMAN, pob=Liversidge] Harry 30, Helen 25, George 5, Alice 3, Adelade 2, John 0, All but Harry have pob=Keighley]
Births Sep 1895 (>99%) Kershaw George Keighley 9a 204
Births Jun 1897 (>99%) Kershaw Alice Keighley 9a 208
Births Dec 1898 (>99%) Kershaw Adelaide Keighley 9a 173
Births Sep 1900 (>99%) Kershaw John Keighley 9a 185
Births Dec 1904 (>99%) Kershaw Harry Keighley 9a 178
Births Sep 1908 (>99%) KERSHAW Ellen Keighley 9a 176
Births Dec 1910 (>99%) KERSHAW Eliza Keighley 9a 158
This looks like the one death Births Mar 1907 (>99%) KERSHAW Annie Keighley 9a 179 Deaths Mar 1908 (>99%) KERSHAW Annie 1 Keighley 9a 146
But I think this is another post-census: Deaths Sep 1911 (>99%) Kershaw Eliza 0 Keighley 9a 330
Post-1911: Births Jun 1912 (>99%) Kershaw Elizabeth Hamshaw Keighley 9a 306
Births Jun 1914 (>99%) KERSHAW Lily Hamshaw Keighley 9a 332
Births Jun 1916 (>99%) Kershaw Florence Hamshaw Keighley 9a 304
Marriages Sep 1951 (>99%) KERSHAW John EADE Lewisham 5d 4
Here are the possible intermarriage deaths in LAN/WRY:
Deaths Sep 1951 (>99%) KERSHAW John 51 Littleboro' 10d 53
Deaths Jun 1952 (>99%) KERSHAW John 51 Barton 10b 198
Deaths Jun 1953 (>99%) KERSHAW John 52 Barton 10b 280
Deaths Mar 1955 (>99%) KERSHAW John 54 Bolton 10b 774
Deaths Dec 1958 (>99%) KERSHAW John B 56 Bury 10b 815
Deaths Jun 1959 (>99%) KERSHAW John 59 Chorley 10c 20
Deaths Sep 1962 (>99%) KERSHAW John W 62 Ashton 10b 79
Deaths Dec 1962 (>99%) KERSHAW John 62 Leeds 2c 337
Deaths Sep 1963 (>99%) KERSHAW JOHN 63 WORTH VALLEY 2C 39 *** includes Keighley ***
Deaths Dec 1963 (>99%) KERSHAW JOHN J 65 LITTLEBORO' 10D 68
Deaths Mar 1965 (>99%) KERSHAW JOHN 62 WAKEFIELD 2D 670
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Marriages Sep 1966 (6%) GAUNT FRANK KERSHAW LANCASTER 10C 1436 [My transcription in FreeBMD format]
Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/ Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1966 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference GAUNT * Frank BROOKS Alice Beatrice Lancaster Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston LANC/95/184 GAUNT * Frank KERSHAW Alice Beatrice Lancaster Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston LANC/95/184 [Two surnames appear on entry # 194 - possibly one is indexed as her dad's surname]
Deaths Jun 1977 (0%) GAUNT Frank 02FE1905 Lancaster 40 1819 [My transcription set in FreeBMD format]
which matches with: Births Mar 1905 (>99%) Gaunt Frank N. Bierley 9b 207
Yorkshire Birth indexes for the years: Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference 1891 GAUNT George Richard Pudsey Leeds PUDS/52/383 ------- 1892 GAUNT Herbert Pudsey Leeds PUDS/53/494 1893 GAUNT Herbert Pudsey Leeds PUDS/54/248 ------- 1895 GAUNT Mary Jane Pudsey Leeds PUDS/57/108 1897 GAUNT Ruth Pudsey Leeds PUDS/59/10 1902 GAUNT Henry N Pudsey Leeds PUDS/62/460 1905 GAUNT Frank Pudsey Leeds PUDS/64/313
North Bierley RD was created 1892 out of Bradford RD, and Pudsey subdistrict was moved from Bradford RD to N Bierley RD and was there for the 1901/1911 censuses.
Births Mar 1891 (>99%) Gaunt George Richard Bradford, Y. 9b 238 -------[can't choose between next pair] Births Sep 1892 (>99%) Gaunt Herbert N. Bierley 9b 249 Births Mar 1893 (>99%) Gaunt Herbert N. Bierley 9b 243 ------- Births Dec 1895 (>99%) Gaunt Mary Jane N. Bierley 9b 222 Births Sep 1897 (>99%) Gaunt Ruth N. Bierley 9b 240 Births Sep 1902 (>99%) Gaunt Henry Norman M N. Bierley 9b 212 Births Mar 1905 (>99%) Gaunt Frank N. Bierley 9b 207
Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1889 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference GAUNT William G COULT Clara St Wilfrid, Calverley Leeds CE127/U/345
Deaths Dec 1905 (>99%) GAUNT Clara [38]6 N. Bierley 9b 135 [image says 36 - correct'n subm'd to FreeBMD]
1911 Name Parent or spouse names Birth Year Birth Place Relation Residence View Image William Glover Gaunt abt 1866 location Head city, Yorkshire-West Riding Sarah Gaunt abt 1859 location Sister city, Yorkshire-West Riding George Richard Gaunt William Glover abt 1891 location relation city, Yorkshire-West Riding Herbert Gaunt William Glover abt 1893 location relation city, Yorkshire-West Riding Mary Jane Gaunt William Glover abt 1896 location relation city, Yorkshire-West Riding Ruth Gaunt William Glover abt 1898 location relation city, Yorkshire-West Riding Henry Norman Mayson Gaunt William Glover abt 1903 location relation city, Yorkshire-West Riding Frank Gaunt William Glover abt 1905 location relation city, Yorkshire-West Riding
1901 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9R3-PHD William Gaunt Head M 35 Pudsey, Yorkshire Clara Gaunt Wife F 31 Goole, Yorkshire George E Gaunt Son M 10 Pudsey, Yorkshire Herbert Gaunt Son M 8 Pudsey, Yorkshire Mary J Gaunt Daughter F 5 Pudsey, Yorkshire Ruth Gaunt Daughter F 3 Pudsey, Yorkshire Charles Rusforth Boarder M 66 Barnsley, Yorkshire
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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1 Nov 2015 18:29 |
This would tie with a Dec reg birth
ALICE BEATRICE Last name GAUNT Gender Female Birth day 2 Birth month 11 Birth year 1904 Age - Death quarter 4 Death year 1981 District CRAWLEY County Sussex Volume 18 Page 1826 Country England
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1 Nov 2015 16:36 |
Possibly Violet's death - Worth Valley RD covered Keighley at the time
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Deaths Sep 1949 (>99%) Kershaw Violet V 52 Worth Valley 2c 50
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1 Nov 2015 16:31 |
Again, John and Violet's marriage certificate would give his Father's name and occupation
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 26 Leeds St Keighley Yorkshire, Keighley, Yorkshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Harry Kershaw Head Married Male Tailor Maker 40 1871 Liversedge Yorkire Helen Kershaw Wife Married Female - 35 1876 Keighley Yorkshire George Kershaw Son Single Male Moulder's Apprentice 15 1896 Keighley Yorkshire Alice Kershaw Daughter - Female School 13 1898 Keighley Yorkshire Adelaide Kershaw Daughter - Female School Part Time Worsted Yarn Spinner 12 1899 Keighley Yorkshire John Kershaw Son - Male School 10 1901 Keighley Yorkshire Harry Kershaw Son - Male School 6 1905 Keighley Yorkshire Helen Kershaw Daughter - Female - 2 1909 Keighley Yorkshire Eliza Kershaw Daughter - Female - 0 1911 Keighley Yorkshire Eliza Crouch Sister Widow Female Worsted Spinner 33 1878 Keighley Yorkshire Sarah Ellen Crouch Niece - Female School 10 1901 Keighley Yorkshire Florence Crouch Niece - Female School 8 1903 Keighley Yorkshire
Married 16 years 8 children born, 1 has died
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1 Nov 2015 16:18 |
So this could be Violet with family in 1911 - the marriage certificate would give Fathers name
Name: Violet V Carturight [Violet V Cartwright] Age in 1911: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1898 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Morton Malton, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Keighley Search Photos: Search for 'Keighley' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding Country: England Street address: 11 Harcourt St Keighley Yorks Occupation: Weaver Registration district: Keighley Registration District Number: 492 Sub-registration district: Keighley ED, institution, or vessel: 40 Piece: 26104 Household Members: Name Age Albert Ed Carturight 34 Labourer b Morton Malton Darah Eliz Carturight 34 Sarah b Malton Violet V Carturight 13 Albert Ed Carturight 9 b Keighley Harold Carturight 5 Stanley b Keighley
Parents married 14 years 4 children born and living
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Lucy
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1 Nov 2015 16:12 |
Thank you :-D
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1 Nov 2015 16:02 |
Possible for John's first marriage, given the 4 births in Keighley with mmn Cartwright
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1920 (>99%) Cartwright Violet V Kershaw Keighley 9a 349 Kershaw John Cartwright Keighley 9a 349
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1 Nov 2015 15:57 |
I see now that she was reg as Beatrice Alice
Births Dec 1904 (>99%)
Brooks Beatrice Alice St Olave 1d 232
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1 Nov 2015 15:41 |
Hi Rambling Rose, my Gran was born in 1905, St Olave, Bermondsey, London After her marrige to Frank Eade she moved up North and eventually lived in Keighley, Yorkshire with Philip Kershaw then after his death she married Frank Gaunt then and lived near Morecombe, Lancshire.
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1 Nov 2015 15:00 |
From the other thread
"Lucy Report 1 Nov 2015 14:43 John Kershaw lived in Keighly, Yorkshire when he was married to my Grandmother. His daughter Vera and two unknown sons from a previous marriage lived away from home as they were grown up by the time John Married my Grandmother"
Looks likely there were four children born Keighley to the first marriage of John Kershaw, incl Vera, can be found on freebmd,mmn Cartwright
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1 Nov 2015 14:42 |
Frank Gaunt, John Kershaw...do you have the marriage certs for age, occupations, and father's names? That way we can see if they may have had siblings.
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1 Nov 2015 12:28 |
So where and when was Alice born?
"Lucy Report 5 Dec 2005 18:49 Elsie Brooks - Bristol I'm trying to find Elsie Brooks from Bristol who is the daughter of James Brooks and Elsie Brooks. My Grandmother Alice Beatrice Brooks was the sister of Elsie Brooks who married James. Lucy"
"http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/trying_to_find/thread/520561"
edit, I'm not trying to be awkward but the reason I am stressing the importance of her birth date and location is that any member of the Gaunt or Eade or Kershaw or Brooks family who search on here will probably be looking for a specific year and place of birth.
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1 Nov 2015 12:13 |
It really would have helped to know her maiden name at the outset, at least it would have meant dob could probably be confirmed,
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=110635.0
"Alice Beatrice Brooks « on: Saturday 03 December 05 02:10 GMT (UK) » I have on my family tree Alice Beatrice Brooks who was married to Arthur Frank Eade in 1924. Her father is listed as James William Brooks (deceased) I think Alice was born around 1904. Is there any kind of census or info where i can find her with her family? The 1881 census shows a James William Brooks living in Darcy Dever, Lancashire and there is a probability that he is Alices father."
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1 Nov 2015 11:43 |
Presumably this one? so you would need to confirm her age, as this is different to what you have on your tree,
( Edit you do need to check because Alice B Brooks is not coming up in your tree via search, only Eades and Kershaw.)
Births Dec 1901 (>99%) Brooks Alice Beatrice W. Ham 4a 168
I think you will need to buy some certs as Shirley suggests :-)
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1 Nov 2015 11:38 |
First marriage just for ref
Marriages Dec 1924 (>99%) Brooks Alice B Eade Southwark 1d 8 Eade Arthur F Brooks Southwark 1d 8
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1 Nov 2015 10:44 |
Mother
DELPHANE Last name EADE Gender Unknown Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1869 Age 51 Death quarter 3 Death year 1920 District DARTFORD County Kent Volume 2A Page 565 Country England Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from Great Britain
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1 Nov 2015 10:36 |
Father
First name(s) ARTHUR Last name EADE Birth year 1869 Birth quarter 3 Registration month - Mother's last name - District NORWICH County Norfolk Country England Volume 4B Page 96
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1 Nov 2015 10:30 |
First name(s) MAY DELPHINE E Last name EADE Birth year 1900 Birth quarter 2 Registration month - Mother's last name - District BETHNAL GREEN County London Country England Volume 1C Page 154
Marriages Sep 1925 Eade May D E Miles Woolwich 1d 2644 Miles William V Eade Woolwich 1d 2644
Take a look on FreeBMD for any children
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1 Nov 2015 10:20 |
This looks like her first hubby with a sister
1911 census England & Wales. Scotland Census Transcription 2 Prospect Road Sydenham SE, Lewisham, London, England
Arthur Eade Head Married Male Watchman 40 1871 Norwich Norfolk Delphine Eade Wife Married Female S E C Railway 39 1872 Parish Catton Berkshire May Eade Daughter - Female - 10 1901 London Arthur Eade Son - Male - 14. 1897. Born Shoreditch London
Married 14 years 2 children born
1901 census England &Wales Scotland Census Transcription Waterloo Buildings, 230, Wilmot Street, Bethnal Green, London, Englan Arthur Eade Head Married Male 31 1870 Metr Police Const Norwich, Norfolk, England Delphine Eade Wife Married Female 29 1872 - Berkshire, England Arthur Eade Son - Male 4 1897 - London, Middlesex, England May E Eade Daughter - Female 0 1901 - London, Middlesex, England
Edit. A bit generous with the truth on years married
ARTHUR Last name EADE Marriage quarter 1 Marriage year 1900 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ ARTHUR EADE married one of these people , DELPHINE GEORGINA STARK District LEWISHAM District number - County London Country England Volume 1D Page 1220
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