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Linda
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4 Nov 2015 20:20 |
Hi have just found out that my grandfather was a resident at the above named school which was an approved school around 1903-1905. I was wondering if anyone can find out anymore information as every where I try is charging and I'm skint thank you in anticipation
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4 Nov 2015 20:43 |
when you say more information - what info are you looking for?
Eastmoor Approved School
First opened in 1857 as the Leeds Reformatory School for boys, the School was funded by the Leeds Society for the Reformation of Juvenile Offenders, who deliberately chose the location as it was far enough away from the temptations of the city. By 1858, the school housed 50 boys, which had grown to 150 by 1887. The south-east wing and Headmaster’s house were added in 1860, when the attic floor of the initial building was converted to dormitories. The workshops of the north-east wing, built by the boys in 1859, were rebuilt in 1881 after a fire, and a separate chapel to the south was added in 1882, designed to function also as a lecture room and subsequently as a gym, however there was no priest and the chapel was never consecrated. Surrounding land within the grounds was cultivated for crops and garden produce. The swimming pool beyond the north-west wing was added in 1887 and roofed in 1896. A boiler room between the north-west wing and the pool was inserted in 1899 to heat the pool, which was used by community groups as well as inmates.
The land was bought by Leeds City Council for £3,500 in 1875, having been leased to the Society by the (unknown) owner previously. The buildings continued in use as an approved school named Eastmoor School from 1933 and then a community home when it was taken over by Leeds City Council on 1st April 1973. It was then known as Eastmoor Community Home with Education. A number of separate houses were constructed around the core site from the 1950s onwards, but there has been little change to the 19th Century buildings externally. In 1993, a secure unit for young offenders was built on part of the site, formerly open land, also owned by Leeds City Council. It has been unused since 2004 although has been marketed for housing development.
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Chris in Sussex
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4 Nov 2015 20:44 |
Apparently the records are on Ancestry in their West Yorkshire Criminal Collection.
If you care to give a name then I am sure someone will take a look for you.
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AnnCardiff
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4 Nov 2015 20:47 |
photographs of some of the boys on this site
Leeds East Moor Reformatory for Boys, Adel, near Leeds ...
www.childrenshomes.org.uk/LeedsEastMoor
Leeds East Moor Reformatory for ... the site became the East Moor Approved School for ... Leeds LS27 7JQ. Holdings for "Leeds East Moor Community Home School":
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AnnCardiff
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4 Nov 2015 20:47 |
Leeds East Moor Community Home School, records | The ...
discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/6318c390-9a88-4f1e-b...
Title: Leeds East Moor Community Home School, records Reference: LC/SS (ACC 3464) Description:
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AnnCardiff
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4 Nov 2015 20:49 |
East Moor Secure Children’s Home East Moor Lane Adel Leeds West Yorkshire LS16 8EB
Tel: 0113 2610031 Fax: 0113 2672218 Referrals: 0113 2610031
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Linda
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4 Nov 2015 22:11 |
His name was Ebenezer Edward Cracknell or Edward Ebenezer
Thank you
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4 Nov 2015 23:25 |
Same man, but different aspect of his life
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/military_chat/thread/1355949 http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/military_chat/thread/1355914 http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/889900 (ancient)
He was born c1890
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lancashireAnn
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4 Nov 2015 23:26 |
Admitted to the school on 2 Feb 1905 convicted of breaking open showcases and stealing contents - convicted for 4 years 6 mtghs. Associated with bad companions
DOB 24 Sept 1890 also gives physical characteristics. home circumstances not favourable for a good upbringing
he had attended St Peters Council School, could read and write and was intelligent and was employed by M Brown of Goodman Street Hunslet
mother Rose Crackenell (father James dead) also on the roll employed as a charwoman of poor character living at 23 Cancel Street Pottery Fields Leeds 2 small children at home
brother Samuel inmate of Shadwell Ind school
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lancashireAnn
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4 Nov 2015 23:31 |
in 1911 he was at Devon And Exeter Reformatory School For Boys, Whipton, Heavitree, Nr Exeter employed as a Gymnastic & Manual Instructor
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Linda
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5 Nov 2015 17:17 |
Thank you so much. We knew about the Exeter bit as that is he worked when my mother was born in the thirties it's interesting to work how he became an instructor at a similar institution to what he was an inmate in. Now comes the big question to I tell my very frail mum who is in her eighties this.
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lancashireAnn
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5 Nov 2015 22:50 |
Perhaps you could be a bit economical with the truth.
Reading what was on the school roll, it sounded like they thought he was basically an intelligent lad who had been led astray by the people he associated with and a poor home life with mother struggling to bring up children on her own. Perhaps the school trained him as an instructor to give him some structure in his life.
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5 Nov 2015 23:00 |
She might be more open minded than you expect.
When we told a relative (older than your mum) that her parents married 5 months before her birth, at first she went red. Then it dawned on her why she was never shown their wedding photos and why she and her now husband were so heavily chaperoned!
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SylviaInCanada
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6 Nov 2015 01:34 |
West Yorkshire, England, Reformatory School Records, 1856-1914
Name: Ebenezer Cracknell Gender: Male Event Date: 19 Dec 1908 Residence: Leeds, England Record Type: Discharge Volume Date Range: 1904 - 1913 Reference Number: LC/SS1/9/4 Register Numbers: 8 Institution: East Moor Community Home School
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Character and Circumstances for Three Years after Discharge
Left to take up position as Manual and Drill Instructor at the Boys' Reformatory, Whipton, Exeter
Still at Exeter Jan 1919
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SylviaInCanada
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6 Nov 2015 01:50 |
these are records for his brother Samuel, one of which gives the name of his father
West Yorkshire, England, Reformatory School Records, 1856-1914
Name: Samuel Cracknell Gender: Male Age: 8 Birth Date: 20 Dec 1893 Event Date: 23 Apr 1902 Residence: Leeds, England Father: James Cracknell Mother: Rose Cracknell Record Type: Commitment Volume Date Range: 1897 - 1905 Reference Number: LC/SS2/1/5 Register Numbers: 1650-2045 Institution: Shadwell Childrens Centre
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Legitimate Religion:- Wesleyan Parent or Parents:- James and Rose Cracknell Occupation:- Street Acrobat Residence:- 9 Stainburn Street, York St, Leeds (note added:- nr Rothwell Union)
Offence:- Begging Convicted:- Leeds Apr 23 1902
Sentence:- Until 16 years of age
Notes:- Beyond home control. Aug 28/01 --- committed to Edgar St but will persist in begging as soon as school is over
Conduct during Detention Oct 18 '09 to Mr Passavant, Parkin Farm, Methley Feb 23 '10 Left position Dec 31 '10 Last heard of at Gloucester 4 months ago Nov 15 '11 Believed to have returned to Leeds, reported to have been in the Tumbler Colliery district
May 1 '12 Enlisting Sept 1912 No. 13153 3 Battalion B Company Worcestershire Regiment Lucknow Barks Tidworth 26/11/12 Satisfactory
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SylviaInCanada
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6 Nov 2015 03:26 |
baptism of Samuel ............ couldn't find Ebenezer Edward
West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
Name: Samuel Cracknell Birth Date: 21 Dec 1893 Parish: Leeds, St Peter Search Photos: Search for 'Leeds, St Peter' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Baptism Date: 28 Jan 1894 Father: James Cracknell Mother: Rose Cracknell
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Address:- Stainburn Street Father occupation:- Acrobat
These look like other children of James and Rose ...........
Name: Andrew Cracknell Birth Date: 23 Aug 1892 Parish: Leeds, St Peter Search Photos: Search for 'Leeds, St Peter' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Baptism Date: 18 Sep 1892 Father: James Cracknell Mother: Rose Cracknell
Address:- Stainburn Street Father occupation:- Acrobat
died June quarter 1893, registered Leeds
Name: James William Cracknell Birth Date: 6 Feb 1896 Parish: Leeds, St Peter Search Photos: Search for 'Leeds, St Peter' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Baptism Date: 26 Feb 1896 Father: James Cracknell Mother: Rose Cracknell
Address:- Stainburn Street Father occupation:- Acrobat
Name: John Edward Cracknell Birth Date: 14 Feb 1898 Parish: Leeds, St Peter Search Photos: Search for 'Leeds, St Peter' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Baptism Date: 9 Mar 1898 Father: James Cracknell Mother: Rose Cracknell
Address:- Stainburn Street Father occupation:- Labourer
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SylviaInCanada
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6 Nov 2015 03:42 |
1901 Census
Name: James Cracknell Age: 46 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Rose Cracknell Birth Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Leeds Search Photos: Search for 'Leeds' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: Leeds St Peter Town: Leeds County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: North Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Piece: 4222 Folio: 8 Page Number: 7 Household schedule number: 45
James Cracknell 46 Acrobat on Stage (on own account) Rose Cracknell 37 b.ca 1864, Wakefield, Yorkshire Louisa Cracknell 16 Ebenezar Cracknell 11 Samuel Cracknell 7 Francis Cracknell 7 <<<<<<<<<< this Francis has been crossed out on the image James Cracknell 5 Francis Cracknell 1
Address:- 9 Stainburn Street
sad ..................
1911 Census
Name: Rose Cracknell Age in 1911: 48 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation to Head: Inmate Gender: Female Birth Place: Wakefield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Nottingham Search Photos: Search for 'Nottingham' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Marital Status: Widowed Occupation: Housekeeper Registration district: Nottingham Registration District Number: 430 Sub-registration district: Bulwell ED, institution, or vessel: 39-42 Piece: 20672
Rose is an Inmate at the Basford Union Workhouse and Infirmary, Highbury Road, Nottingham
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SylviaInCanada
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6 Nov 2015 03:53 |
hmmmmmmm
according to the 1891 Census Ebenezer was born in
1891 Census
Name: James Cracknell Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Bishop Auckland Ecclesiastical parish: Auckland St Andrews Town: Bishop Auckland County/Island: Durham Country: England
Registration district: Auckland ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Piece: 4067 Folio: 82 Page Number: 26
. . . James Cracknell 34 Acrobat Rose Cracknell 27 n.ca 1864, Wakefield, Yorkshire Louisa Cracknell 5 b.ca 1886, Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire Ebenezer Cracknell 4/12 b.ca 1891, Sunderland, Durham . . .
Address:- 8 Clayton Street, Licensed Lodging House
It was either a VERY big house, or people shared beds and rooms :-)
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SylviaInCanada
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6 Nov 2015 04:01 |
This looks as though it is James' death registration
Deaths Sep 1902 (>99%) Cracknell James 42 Leeds 9b 238
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SylviaInCanada
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6 Nov 2015 04:16 |
I can't find a marriage for James Cracknell and Rose, but I did find this marriage for their daughter Louisa
West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
Name: Louisa Kaufman Cracknell Birth Year: abt 1885 Age: 21 Marriage or Bann Date: 27 Oct 1906 Parish: Hunslet, St Mary the Virgin, Yorkshire, England Search Photos: Search for 'Hunslet, St Mary the Virgin' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Spouse: Domonic Mazza Father: James Cracknell <<<<<<<<<< Acrobat Spouse Father: Rocco Mazza
I wonder if the "Kaufman" has any significance
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