seems possible as mmn = Gratton
Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1890 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name GRATTON Hannah Hanley Stoke-On-Trent GRATTON
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pm from Maureen ................
John and Mary Ellen didn't quite make it in time, my Grandmother put in an appearance the day before the wedding. She was the first of seven children. I have all this information as I grew up knowing all seven of them. What I not sure of Is Johns death date and information on their ancestors ------
Note that what Maureen had all that we have posted, and what she really wanted was ..................
John's death date
Information on their ancestors.
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A possibility for John's death??
Deaths Dec 1943 (>99%) Deaville John 76 Stoke 6b 183
I know you're new to this posting lark, Maureen, and we were all beginners once, but please, in future, tell us everything you already know - it would save us a lot of time.
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Have you got this Maureen
Staffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1912 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office DEAVILLE John PENNINGTON Mary A Bucknall, St Mary Stoke-On-Trent
according to several trees on ancestry Mary Ellen died in 1910 and John remarried in 1912 to another Mary (Mary Annie). The certificate says Johnis a widower age 44 of 45 Chapel St Bucknall
All the trees have John dying on 27th December 1944 at 85 Birch St Northwood but I can't find any reg for that just the 1943. Presumably all copied from 1 person's tree!
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I don't think the 1871 Census has been posted ..........
This looks like Mary Ellen's parents with John's widowed mother .......
1871 Census
Name: John Gratton Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Gratton Mother's name: Ellen Gratton Gender: Male Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke upon Trent Ecclesiastical parish: Bucknall St Mary Town: Bucknall County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Hanley ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Household schedule number: 75 Piece: 2861 Folio: 9 Page Number: 14
John Gratton 21 Potter Glosh Placer Ann Gratton 22 b.ca 1849, Wyrley, Staffordshire Ellen Gratton 66 b.ca 1805, Hanley, Staffordshire, Mother, Widow, Charwoman
no street address, just Bucknall
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John with his parents and siblings in 1861
1861 Census
Name: John Gratton Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: 1850 Relation: Son Father's name: James Gratton Mother's name: Ellen Gratton Gender: Male Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Shelton Ecclesiastical parish: Hope Town: Hanley County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England
Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Shelton ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 86 Piece: 1936 Folio: 12 Page Number: 17
James Gratton 57 b.ca 1804, Norton, Staffordshire, Green Grocer Ellen Gratton 51 b.ca 1810, Caverswall, Staffordshire Livnnia Gratton 29 b.ca 1832, Hanley, Staffordshire, Daughter, Painter on China James Gratton 20 b.ca 1841, Hanley, Son, Potter Anna Gratton 15 b.ca 1846, Hanley, Daughter, Painter on China Edward Gratton 13 b.ca 1848, Hanley, Son, Potter John Gratton 11 Potter Henry Gratton 8 b.ca 1853, Hanley, Son, Scholar
Address:- 119 Marsh St
and the same family in 1851
1851 Census
Name: John Gratton Age: 8 Mo Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Son Father's name: James Gratton Mother's name: Ellen Gratton Gender: Male Where born: Shelton, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke upon Trent Ecclesiastical parish: Hope Town: Hanley and Shelton County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England
Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Shelton ED, institution, or vessel: 1n
Household schedule number: 88 Piece: 2005 Folio: 352 Page Number: 25
James Gratton 46 b.ca 1805, Burslem, Staffordshire, Potter Prefseh (?? Presser??)) Ellen Gratton 42 b.ca 1809, Meir Heath, Staffordshire, Potter - Paintress Ellen Gratton 21 b.ca 1830, Longton, Staffordshire, Daughter, Potter - Paintress William Gratton 19 b.ca 1832, Hanley, Staffordshire, Son, Potter Presser (?) Emma Gratton 16 b.ca 1835, Shelton, Staffordshire, Daughter, Potter - Stiltmaker Lavinia Gratton 14 b.ca 1837, Shelton, Daughter, Potter - Paintress James Gratton 12 b.ca 1839, Shelton, Son, Potter - R ----Moulds (??can't read) Rosa Gratton 10 b.ca 1841, Shelton, Daughter, Scholar Anne Gratton 8 b.ca 1843, Shelton, Daughter, Scholar Edward Gratton 5 b.ca 1846, Shelton, Son, Scholar John Gratton 8 Mo
Address:- Marsh Street
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????????? Marriage of John Gratton and Ellen
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County Staffordshire Place Burslem Church name St John the Baptist Register type Unspecified Marriage date 19 Oct 1828 Groom forename James Groom surname GRATTON Groom condition bachelor Groom parish Burslem Groom occupation Potter Bride forename Ellen Bride surname WARRILOW Bride condition spinster Bride parish Burslem Witness1 forename Thomas Witness1 surname NEWBON Witness2 forename Bagnall Witness2 surname BEECH Notes Groom signs X
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