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Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	8 Mar 2016 01:43
	????????? Marriage of John Gratton and Ellen from freereg .......... a FREE site http://freereg2.freereg.org.uk/search_queries/new County Staffordshire Place Burslem Church name St John the Baptist Register type Unspecified Marriage date 19 Oct 1828 Groom forename James Groom surname GRATTON Groom condition bachelor Groom parish Burslem Groom occupation Potter Bride forename Ellen Bride surname WARRILOW Bride condition spinster Bride parish Burslem Witness1 forename Thomas Witness1 surname NEWBON Witness2 forename Bagnall Witness2 surname BEECH Notes Groom signs X
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	8 Mar 2016 01:32
	????????? John with his parents and siblings in 1861 1861 Census Name: John Gratton Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: 1850 Relation: Son Father's name: James Gratton Mother's name: Ellen Gratton Gender: Male Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Shelton Ecclesiastical parish: Hope Town: Hanley County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Shelton ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 86 Piece: 1936 Folio: 12 Page Number: 17 James Gratton 57 b.ca 1804, Norton, Staffordshire, Green Grocer Ellen Gratton 51 b.ca 1810, Caverswall, Staffordshire Livnnia Gratton 29 b.ca 1832, Hanley, Staffordshire, Daughter, Painter on China James Gratton 20 b.ca 1841, Hanley, Son, Potter Anna Gratton 15 b.ca 1846, Hanley, Daughter, Painter on China Edward Gratton 13 b.ca 1848, Hanley, Son, Potter John Gratton 11 Potter Henry Gratton 8 b.ca 1853, Hanley, Son, Scholar Address:- 119 Marsh St and the same family in 1851 1851 Census Name: John Gratton Age: 8 Mo Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Son Father's name: James Gratton Mother's name: Ellen Gratton Gender: Male Where born: Shelton, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke upon Trent Ecclesiastical parish: Hope Town: Hanley and Shelton County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Shelton ED, institution, or vessel: 1n Household schedule number: 88 Piece: 2005 Folio: 352 Page Number: 25 James Gratton 46 b.ca 1805, Burslem, Staffordshire, Potter Prefseh (?? Presser??)) Ellen Gratton 42 b.ca 1809, Meir Heath, Staffordshire, Potter - Paintress Ellen Gratton 21 b.ca 1830, Longton, Staffordshire, Daughter, Potter - Paintress William Gratton 19 b.ca 1832, Hanley, Staffordshire, Son, Potter Presser (?) Emma Gratton 16 b.ca 1835, Shelton, Staffordshire, Daughter, Potter - Stiltmaker Lavinia Gratton 14 b.ca 1837, Shelton, Daughter, Potter - Paintress James Gratton 12 b.ca 1839, Shelton, Son, Potter - R ----Moulds (??can't read) Rosa Gratton 10 b.ca 1841, Shelton, Daughter, Scholar Anne Gratton 8 b.ca 1843, Shelton, Daughter, Scholar Edward Gratton 5 b.ca 1846, Shelton, Son, Scholar John Gratton 8 Mo Address:- Marsh Street
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	8 Mar 2016 00:58
	I don't think the 1871 Census has been posted .......... This looks like Mary Ellen's parents with John's widowed mother ....... 1871 Census Name: John Gratton Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Gratton Mother's name: Ellen Gratton Gender: Male Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke upon Trent Ecclesiastical parish: Bucknall St Mary Town: Bucknall County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Hanley ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Household schedule number: 75 Piece: 2861 Folio: 9 Page Number: 14 John Gratton 21 Potter Glosh Placer Ann Gratton 22 b.ca 1849, Wyrley, Staffordshire Ellen Gratton 66 b.ca 1805, Hanley, Staffordshire, Mother, Widow, Charwoman no street address, just Bucknall
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 5,758 Send Message	lancashireAnn	Report	7 Mar 2016 15:10
	Have you got this Maureen Staffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1912 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office DEAVILLE John PENNINGTON Mary A Bucknall, St Mary Stoke-On-Trent according to several trees on ancestry Mary Ellen died in 1910 and John remarried in 1912 to another Mary (Mary Annie). The certificate says Johnis a widower age 44 of 45 Chapel St Bucknall All the trees have John dying on 27th December 1944 at 85 Birch St Northwood but I can't find any reg for that just the 1943. Presumably all copied from 1 person's tree!
	Researching: Liverpool (Cartwright, Chambers, Miller), Todmorden (Sutcliffe, Mallison), Abergavenny (Watkins, Prosser)
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,284 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	7 Mar 2016 11:26
	A possibility for John's death?? Deaths Dec 1943 (>99%) Deaville John 76 Stoke 6b 183 I know you're new to this posting lark, Maureen, and we were all beginners once, but please, in future, tell us everything you already know - it would save us a lot of time.
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	7 Mar 2016 04:58
	pm from Maureen ................ John and Mary Ellen didn't quite make it in time, my Grandmother put in an appearance the day before the wedding. She was the first of seven children. I have all this information as I grew up knowing all seven of them. What I not sure of Is Johns death date and information on their ancestors ------ Note that what Maureen had all that we have posted, and what she really wanted was .................. John's death date Information on their ancestors.
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 5,758 Send Message	lancashireAnn	Report	6 Mar 2016 15:22
	seems possible as mmn = Gratton Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1890 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name GRATTON Hannah Hanley Stoke-On-Trent GRATTON
	Researching: Liverpool (Cartwright, Chambers, Miller), Todmorden (Sutcliffe, Mallison), Abergavenny (Watkins, Prosser)
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	6 Mar 2016 02:16
	Births Jun 1890 (>99%) Gratton Hannah Stoke T. 6b 180
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	5 Mar 2016 23:11
	these look like all children of John and Mary Ellen from ancestry Mary Alice Deaville 20 Jun 1891 28 Jun 1891 Bucknall, Stafford, England John, Mary Ellen Lavinia Deaville 5 Nov 1893 Bucknall, Stafford, England John, Mary John Deaville 2 Dec 1894 Bucknall, Stafford, England John, Mary Ada Deaville 11 Jan 1897 5 Jan 1898 Bucknall, Stafford, England John, Mary Ellen Samson Deaville 4 Dec 1898 1 Jan 1899 Bucknall, Stafford, England John, Mary Ellen and it looks as if Hannah was born before John married Mary Ellen, she was shown as Hannah Gratton on the 1891 Census England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Hannah Gratton Gender: Female Birth Date: 23 Mar 1890 Baptism Date: 5 Jul 1891 Baptism Place: Bucknall, Stafford, England Mother: Mary Ellen Gratton FHL Film Number: 1278889 Reference ID: item 19 p 109 John and Mary Ellen married on 24 May 1890, so after Hannah's birth but before she was baptised.
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	5 Mar 2016 21:42
	Staffordshire marriages Transcription Print transcription View image First name(s) John Last name Gratton Age 21 Birth year 1849 Marriage year 1870 Marriage date 26 Dec 1870 Marriage place Bucknall, St Mary Denomination Anglican Residence Bucknall Father's first name(s) James Father's last name Gratton Spouse's first name(s) Ann Spouse's last name Whitehouse Spouse's age 21 Spouse's residence Bucknall Spouse's father's first name(s) Edward Spouse's father's last name Whitehouse County Staffordshire Country England Archive reference D3381/1/20 Page 18 Register type Marriage Record set Staffordshire marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	5 Mar 2016 21:37
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	First name(s) Samson Last name Deaville Birth year 1898 Birth date 04 Dec 1898 Baptism year 1899 Baptism date 01 Jan 1899 Baptism place Bucknall, St Mary Denomination Anglican Father's first name(s) John Mother's first name(s) Mary Ellen County Staffordshire Country England Archive reference D3381/1/7 Page 88
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	5 Mar 2016 21:35
	Staffordshire marriages Transcription Print transcription View image First name(s) John Last name Deaville Age 22 Birth year 1868 Marriage year 1890 Marriage date 24 May 1890 Marriage place Bucknall, St Mary Denomination Anglican Residence 99 Werrington Rd Father's first name(s) William Father's last name Deaville Spouse's first name(s) Mary Ellen Spouse's last name Gratton Spouse's age 19 Spouse's residence 89 Werrington Rd Spouse's father's first name(s) John Spouse's father's last name Gratton County Staffordshire Country England Archive reference D3381/1/20 Page 234 Register type Marriage Record set Staffordshire marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	5 Mar 2016 21:27
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	If this is John and Mary Ellen they have more than the 6 children you have mentioned. Sampson is another child. 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Chapel Street, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Daniel E Hughes Head Married Male 27 1864 Coal Miner Hanley, Staffordshire, England Transcription Hannah Hughes Wife Married Female 25 1866 - Bucknall, Staffordshire, England Transcription Mary Hughes Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Bucknall, Staffordshire, England Transcription Sarah Ann Hughes Daughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar Bucknall, Staffordshire, England Transcription Mary Hughes Lodger Widow Female 60 1831 Domestic Wales Transcription John Deavill Lodger Married Male 23 1868 Coal Miner Bucknall, Staffordshire, England Transcription Mary E Deavill Wife Married Female 19 1872 - Bucknall, Staffordshire, England Transcription Hannah Grattan Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Bucknall, Staffordshire, England 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 110, High Street, Stoke Rural, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Deaville Head Married Male 33 1868 Miner Coal Hewer Bucknall, Staffordshire, England Transcription Mary E Deaville Wife Married Female 29 1872 - Bucknall, Staffordshire, England Transcription Hannah Deaville Daughter Single Female 11 1890 - Bucknall, Staffordshire, England Transcription Mary Alice Deaville Daughter Single Female 9 1892 - Bucknall, Staffordshire, England Transcription John Deaville Son - Male 6 1895 - Bucknall, Staffordshire, England Transcription Ada Deaville Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Bucknall, Staffordshire, England Transcription Sampson Deaville Son - Male 2 1899 - Bucknall, Staffordshire, England Transcription George Deaville Son - Male 0 1901 - Bucknall, Staffordshire, England 1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 45 Chapel Street Bucknall Stoke on Trent, Stoke Rural, Staffordshire, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place John Deaville Head Widower Male Coal Miner- Hewe 43 1868 Staffs Bucknall Transcription Mary Alice Deaville Daughter Single Female Potter- Stilt Maker 19 1892 Staffs Bucknall Transcription Lavinia Deaville Daughter Single Female Potter- Stilt Maker 17 1894 Staffs Bucknall Transcription John Deaville Son Single Male Potter- Holloware Apprentice 16 1895 Staffs Bucknall Transcription Ada Deaville Daughter - Female Domestic Work At Home 14 1897 Staffs Bucknall Transcription Sampson Deaville Son - Male School- Butcher's Maid Boy Saturdays 12 1899 Staffs Bucknall Transcription George Deaville Son - Male School 10 1901 Staffs Bucknall Transcription Thomas Gratton Boarder Single Male Coal Miner- Loader Underground 26 1885 Staffs Bucknall
Member Since: December 2003 Posts: 19,535 Send Message	Cynthia	Report	5 Mar 2016 15:34
	Welcome to the Community boards Maureen. (I'll let Maureen know how to find her replies) :-)
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Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,284 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	4 Mar 2016 17:16
	Ann with parents & some siblings in 1861: Edward Whitehouse in the 1861 England Census Name: Edward Whitehouse Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: 1830 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Whitehouse Gender: Male Where born: Great Wyrley, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Bucknall County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Hanley ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 110 Piece: 1933 Folio: 91 Page Number: 29 Household Members: Name Age Edward Whitehouse 31 Mary Whitehouse 32 Rosanna Whitehouse 14 Anne Whitehouse 11 John Whitehouse 8 Harriet Whitehouse 4 William Whitehouse 1
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,284 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	4 Mar 2016 17:13
	Ann's parents and some of her siblings in 1871: Mary Whitehouse in the 1871 England Census Name: Mary Whitehouse Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Edward Whitehouse Gender: Female Where born: Bucknall, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke upon Trent Ecclesiastical parish: Bucknall St Mary Town: Bucknall County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Hanley ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Household schedule number: 2 Piece: 2861 Folio: 4 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Edward Whitehouse 42 Mary Whitehouse 44 John Whitehouse 19 Harriet Whitehouse 15 William Whitehouse 14 Thomas Whitehouse 11 Hannah Whitehouse 7 Joseph Whitehouse 1
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 28,261 Send Message	KathleenBell	Report	4 Mar 2016 17:04
	Ann Gratton in the 1911 census living with one of her sons and his family:- 1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 9 William Street Bucknall Stoke on Trent, Stoke Rural, Staffordshire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Edward Gratton Head Married Male Potters Holloware Presser 32 1879 Stoke Rural Parish Bucknall Staffs Charlotte Gratton Wife Married Female - 30 1881 Staff Hanley Ada Gratton Daughter - Female - 2 1909 Staff Bucknall Charlotte Gratton Daughter - Female - 0 1911 Staff Bucknall Annie Gratton Mother Widower Female Domestic 62 1849 South Staffordshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< William Fournell Uncle Widower Male Coal Miner Hewer 57 1854 South Staffordshire Mary Colclough Niece Single Female Mould Runner 17 1894 Staff Hanley Kath. x
Member Since: July 2008 Posts: 1,570 Send Message	Chrissie2394	Report	4 Mar 2016 17:00
	1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 4, William Street, Stoke Rural, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thos Whitehouse Head Single Male 43 1858 Collier Hewer Bucknall, Staffordshire, England Annie Gratton Sister Widow Female 49 1852 Servant Domestic Bucknall, Staffordshire, England Edward Gratton Nephew Single Male 23 1878 Pot Factory Potters Presser Bucknall, Staffordshire, England Willm Whitehouse Brother Married Male 45 1856 Coal Miner Hewer Thos Gratton Nephew Single Male 17 1884 Coal Miner Hewer Bucknall, Staffordshire, England Levina Deville Niece Single Female 7 1894 - Bucknall, Staffordshire, England Chris
	Researching: Photo is of my nan celebrating her 102nd birthday with her gt gt granddaughter.
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 28,261 Send Message	KathleenBell	Report	4 Mar 2016 17:00
	This s Mary Ellen's mother in the 1891 census living with one of her brothers (by this time Ann is a widow):- 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription William Street, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Whitehouse Head Single Male 31 1860 Labourer General Bucknall, Staffordshire, England Ann Gratton Lodger Widow Female 40 1851 - Bucknall, Staffordshire, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Edward Gratton Lodger - Male 13 1878 Scholar Bucknall, Staffordshire, England Lavinia Gratton Lodger - Female 11 1880 Scholar Bucknall, Staffordshire, England Thomas Gratton Lodger - Male 7 1884 Scholar Bucknall, Staffordshire, England Thomas Colclough Lodger Single Male 34 1857 Coal Miner Bucknall, Staffordshire, England Samuel Johnson Lodger Widower Male 66 1825 Coal Miner Bucknall, Staffordshire, England Kath. x
Member Since: July 2008 Posts: 1,570 Send Message	Chrissie2394	Report	4 Mar 2016 16:54
	Name John Gratton Birth Date 1849 Age 21 Spouse's Name Ann Whitehouse Spouse's Birth Date 1849 Spouse's Age 21 Event Date 1870 Event Place Bucknall Cum Bagnall, Stafford, England Father's Name James Gratton Spouse's Father's Name Edward Whitehouse CITING THIS RECORD "England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N6B6-QFY : accessed 4 March 2016), John Gratton and Ann Whitehouse, 1870; citing Bucknall Cum Bagnall, Stafford, England, reference 2:Z2WJ2G; FHL microfilm 1,278,909. Chris
	Researching: Photo is of my nan celebrating her 102nd birthday with her gt gt granddaughter.

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