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This looks as if it could be the Family in the 1841 Census

Name: James Gibson
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1786
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St George Hanover Square
Hundred: Westminster
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

View image
Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: Belgrave
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 732
Book: 7
Folio: 5
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
James Gibson 55 born IN the County, occ Clergyman
Frances Gibson 20
Jas Edwd Gibson 19
John Gibson 17 occ Clerk
Mary Margt Ann Gibson 15
Thos Gibson 13
Elizh Gibson 12
Louisa Gibson 10
Henry Gibson 8

All the children were NOT born in the County. The address looks to be
No 4 Westbourne Place, St George Hanover Square, Middlesex

Baptism of Thomas Gibson
Date 07 Sep 1827, Worlington, County of Suffolk
Abode Worlington
Father James Gibson
Mother Mary Elizabeth

Oxford University Alumni, 1500-1886 (Ancestry)

(just to add snippet from above)

Gibson, James s. of James, of St. Marylebone, Middlesex, Gent. Wadham College, matric. 29 May, 1802, aged 16. B.A. 1806 M.A. 1811, chaplain to the Lock Hospital, rector of Worlington, Suffolk, 1818, until his death 4 Oct. 1850.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Lock_Hospital

(about the Lock)

Chris :)

Thank you everyone for all of that brilliant news on the Gibson family,I never had any of this my friend will be so pleased she has gone back another generation.

Many Thanks Ellen

From GR:


Reading Mercury Berkshire, England

10 Aug 1901
SALES BY AUCTION. NOTICE OF SALE. "MAYNARDS", HEMEL HEMPSTEAD, HERTS. MESSRS. WM. R. NICHOLAS and CO. beg to announce that

SALES BY AUCTION. NOTICE OF SALE. MAYNARDS, HEMEL HEMPSTEAD, HERTS. MESSRS. WM. R. NICHOLAS and CO. beg to announce that they have just SOLD by Private treaty the above Valuable Freehold Property, comprising the Residence, together with stabling, garden, grounds, etc, having a total area of some 6 acres.

Anne A. Gibson
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Anne A. Gibson
Age: 57
Estimated birth year: abt 1824
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: London, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Prestbury
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address: Winchcomb Rd Prestbury Lodge
Marital Status: Widow
Registration district: Cheltenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2567
Folio: 23
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Anne A. Gibson 57 - widow
James T. Gibson 16
Agnes Gibson 15
Charlotte Chilet 55 - visitor
(plus 5 servants and a governess)


Anne Agnes Gibson
in the Surrey, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1987
Name: Anne Agnes Gibson
Birth Year: abt 1823
Burial Age: 67
Burial Date: 1 Aug 1890
Archive Provided Parish: Dorking, St Martin
Parish as it Appears: Dorking
Reference Number: DOM/4/4


Anne Agnes Gibson
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Anne Agnes Gibson
Probate Date: 13 Aug 1890
Registry: Principal Registry
Death Date: 28 Jul 1890
Death Place: Hertford, Hertfordshire, England

Anne Agnes Gibson - Personal estate: £2250 4s. 11d.
13 August. The Will of Anne Agnes Gibson late of Maynard's Hemel Hempstead in the county of Hertford, widow, who died 28 July 1890 at The Old Hill, Ross, in the county of Hereford was proved at the Principal Registry by James Thornton Gibson of Old Hill, gentleman, the son, the sole executor.

And his wife and children;

Anne Agnes Gibson
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Anne Agnes Gibson
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1823
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Southwark, London, England
Civil Parish: Betchworth
Ecclesiastical parish: Betchworth
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Reigate
Sub-registration district: Reigate
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household schedule number: 101
Piece: 832
Folio: 113
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Anne Agnes Gibson 48 - wife
Charles E Gibson 9 - son - Brighton
James J Gibson 7 - son - Brighton
Agnes Gibson 5 - daughter - Brighton
Eliza Webb 51 - servant
Mary Ann Notley 31 - servant
Anne Roberts 51 - servant
Ellen Long 28 - servant
Tam Seay 30 - servant

James Edward in 1871:

James Gibson
in the 1871 England Census
Name: James Gibson
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Woolington, Suffolk, England [Worlington on image]
Civil Parish: St Anne
Ecclesiastical parish: Lewes
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Registration district: Lewes
Sub-registration district: Lewes
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 69
Piece: 1067
Folio: 6
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
William E Richardson 38 - head
Robert W E Richardson 10 - son
James E Richardson 8 - son
Louisa Gibson 38 - sister-in-law, unmarried
James Gibson 49 - visitor, married
Caroline Saywell 39 - servant
Louisa Ferin 29 - servant
Emma Sparks 24 - servant

1871 41/347 GIBSON Thomas (Relative Name) undefined Adelaide

https://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html

Chris :)

23 February 1861 - The Suffolk Chronicle; or Weekly General Advertiser

Married
On the 19th, St. George’s, Bloomsbury, James Edward, eldest son of the late Rev. James Gibson, rector of Worlington, in this county, to Anne Agnes, only daughter of the late William Devey, Esq.


24 June 1871 - The Suffolk Chronicle; or Weekly General Advertiser

Died.
15th April, at Adelaide, S. Australia, after few days’ illness, in his 42nd year, Thomas, third son of the late Rev. James Gibson, rector of Worlington, Mildenhall, Suffolk.


20 January 1880 - Bury and Norwich Post - Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk

Died.
On the 11th inst., at Southover Rectory, Lewes, aged 48 years. Louisa, third surviving daughter of the late Rev. James Gibson, Rector of Worlington.

Chris :)

edits (below, Daughters mentioned in Will)


1851 (Find My Past)

Mary Gibson Head Unmarried Female 25 1826 Instructress Worlington, Suffolk, England
Frances Gibson Sister Unmarried Female 30 1821 Instructress Worlington, Suffolk, England
Elizabeth Gibson Sister Unmarried Female 22 1829 Instructress Worlington, Suffolk, England
Jane Phillips Aunt Widow Female 50 1801 - -
Eliza Turnbull Visitor - Female 10 1841 - India
Hannah Copsey Servant Unmarried Female 32 1819 Servant (Cook) Worlington, Suffolk, England
Eliza Copsey Servant Unmarried Female 28 1823 Servant (House) Worlington, Suffolk, England
Cornelius Chapman Servant Unmarried Male 17 1834 Groom Worlington, Suffolk, England
Street Church Street
Parish Worlington
County Suffolk
Hamlet Worlington
Registration district Mildenhall
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1793
Folio 76
Page 16


04 February 1896 - Leighton Buzzard Observer and Linslade Gazette

Death
Gibson - On the 27th ult., at St. Augustine’s, Sandown, I.O.W., Frances, eldest daughter of the late Rev. James Gibson, rector of Worlington, Suffolk, in her 76th year


17 April 1858 - Oxford Chronicle and Reading Gazette - Oxford, Oxfordshire

Married
On the 14th inst., at Worlington, Suffolk, the Rev. W. E. Richardson, incumbent of Linslade, Bucks, to Mary Margaret Anne, second daughter of the late Rev. James Gibson, rector of Worlington and chaplain of the Lock Hospital London.


25 January 1876 - Bury and Norwich Post - Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk

Death
On the 22nd inst., at Snower-hill, Betchworth, aged 54, Jas. Edward, eldest son of the late Rev. J. Gibson, Rector of Worlington.

09 October 1850 - Bury and Norwich Post - Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk

Death
On the 4th instant, Worlington, Rectory, Mildenhall, the Rev. James Gibson, in the year his age.


(quite a few other items relating also)

http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/

(also Find My Past, Genes. Subscriptions needed)


12 June 1819 - Oxford University and City Herald - Oxford, Oxfordshire

CLERGYMEN MARRIED.
Rev James Gibson, rector of Worlington, Suffolk, to Mary Elizabeth, second daughter of John Phillips, Esq. of Pall Mall.

(also)

On the 4th instant was married, at St. James's Church, Westminster, the Rev. James Gibson, Rector of Worlington, Suffolk, and late Fellow (of Wadham College, in this University, to Mary Elizabeth, 2nd daughter of John Phillips Esq. of Pall Mall.


14 October 1837 - Norfolk Chronicle - Norwich, Norfolk, England

Died
In Suffolk - Mary Elizabeth, the wife of the Rev. James Gibson, Rector of Worlington, Suffolk


James Gibson in the Oxford University Alumni, 1500-1886 (from Ancestry)


Chris :)


http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D10548

(Will of Reverend James Gibson, Clerk of Worlingham , Suffolk) (should also be on Ancestry. England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858. )

(perhaps should be Worlington?)


National Burial Index for England & Wales Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) JAMES
Last name GIBSON
Birth year 1785
Death year 1850
Age 65
Burial year 1850
Burial day 10
Burial month 10
Place WORLINGTON
Church description ALL SAINTS
Church denomination ANGLICAN
County Suffolk


edits (1819 James Gibson Marriage image, Find My Past (Westminster Marriages)

On the 19th inst., at St. George's, Bloomsbury, James Edward, eldest son of the late Rev. James Gibson, Rector of Worlington, iv this county, to Anne Agnes, only daughter of the late WilKam Devey, Esq.

http://tinyurl.com/zn5rtgd


Marriages Mar 1861 (>99%)
Devey Anne Agnes St Giles 1b 416
GIBSON James Edward St Giles 1b 416

He died aged 66, on the 4th of some month or other, some year , in Worlington Rectory

Several newspaper references to him here:
http://tinyurl.com/j5tnueb


This is the only James Gibson death in Mildenhall on FreeBMD, so presumably the right one:

Deaths Dec 1850 (>99%)
GIBSON James Mildenhall 13 371


Can't see him in 1841.

Rev James Gibson, MA, Rector of Worlington, Suffolk, preached a sermon in the Parish Church of Mildenhall, Suffolk, at the Archdeacon's Visitation , on 13th May 1830.

From this link: http://tinyurl.com/hkttzku

I have found out that James Gibson's 1st wife was a Mary Alice Adelaide Reed (father John Reed ) they married 5th May 1894 at P M Manse Adelaide.

Also found out his Grandfather was ( Rev )James Gibson Rector of Mildenham Suffolk so maybe Thomas (his father ) was born in Suffolk ?

????

Elizabeth Bennetts
in the Australia, Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Elizabeth Bennetts
Spouse Name: Thomas Gibson
Marriage Date: 19 Nov 1853
Marriage Place: Penwortham
Registration Place: Adelaide, South Australia
Page Number: 48
Volume Number: 16

Wow what great information you have given me thanks so much.
When I first posted my message I had the parents of James Gibson as Thomas Gibson & Elizabeth Shepherd,I now believe Elizabeth was actually Elizabeth Bennetts I think that James made a mistake on his marriage certificate with his mothers maiden name. (same as he didn't remember his first wifes name )The only children found are all born to a Thomas Gibson & Elizabeth Bennetts nothing for a Elizabeth Shepherd.

(them below perhaps)

Chris :)

The Daily News (Perth, WA : 1882 - 1950) Friday 24 January 1913 p 3 Article

A SEPARATION CLAIM.
Elizabeth Maria Gibson proceeded against her husband, James Gibson, at
the City Court to-day for a separation, maintenance, and the custody of her
four infant children, on the ground of persistent cruelty.
The evidence showed that the parties had been married for seven years, and
that the defendant had neglected to provide his wife with reasonable maintenance, and had persistently ill treated her. He was a confirmed gambler, and was addicted to drink, .and attended every race meeting 'held about the metropolis'.
The Bench granted the application, fixing maintenance at £1 per week.

you, and therefore us, do not know where james' first marriage took place.

On this site ...........

http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx

There are 2 marriages in WA that took place before his marriage to Elizabeth, one of which took place in Fremantle ...............

Gibson James Male Johnston Elizabeth Female Mingenew 70 1894
Gibson James Male Sweetman Charlotte Female Fremantle 736 1900


no deaths shown in WA for women with those names.

Ellen .............

may I suggest that you add "Australia" to the title of this thread?

We do have some members from Australia who have a much better idea of where information might be found.