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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 May 2016 05:45

Jane in 1871

Jane Hopson Wife - Female 44 1827 - Somerset, England
William G Hopson Son - Male 19 1852 - Kent, England
Richard E Hopson Son - Male 15 1856 - Kent, England
Henry Hopson Son - Male 13 1858 - Kent, England
James Hopson Son - Male 9 1862 - Kent, England
Arthur Hopson Son - Male 7 1864 - Kent, England
Alice Hopson Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Kent, England
Walter Hopson Son - Male 1 1870 - Kent, England

Address:- Charles Street Batch Cottages, St Paul Deptford, Greenwich, London, England


so seems to be a total of at least 6 children. That also seems to have been the address for several years.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 May 2016 05:42

1871 Census

Name: James Patman Hopson
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, London, England
Civil Parish: Gillingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Medway
Sub-registration district: Gillingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 148
Piece: 907
Folio: 73
Page Number: 34

Henry Barret Bishop 38 Engine Driver in Dockyard
Susan Bishop 32
William Bishop 13
Eleanor Bishop 12
Priscilla Bishop 5
Arthur Bishop 11 Months
James Patman Hopson 49 Unmarried, Boarder, Dockyard Labourer




JP's occupation(s) in the censuses

1841 -- Groom
1851 -- Ag Labourer
1861 -- Labourer's Leading Man H.M Dock Yard
1871 -- Dockyard Labourer
1881 -- ???
1891 -- Living on Own Means

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 May 2016 04:37

ah!!!

Interesting ....

this is FMP's transcription of that 1841 Census. Notice the difference in Sarah's age??

James Hopson Male 22 1819 Middlesex, England
Sarah Hopson Female 28 1813 Middlesex, England

looking at the image ....... the FMP transcriber might well be correct!!

I have looked at several pages of the census, and there are about 6 examples of a number that is written in the same manner as Sarah's ....... most easily described as a backwards S lying on its side! ......... has to be an 8. 8 is the only number that is not very clearly written

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 May 2016 01:05

as posted by safc, possible earlier marriage for James

First name(s) JAMES PATMAN
Last name HOPSON
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1839
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ JAMES PATMAN HOPSON married one of these people
MARY MAHON, ENORAH RYAN, SARAH GLAZIER, ELIZA JONES
District KENSINGTON


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1841 Census

Name: James Hopson
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1819
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Church

Piece: 691
Book: 10
Folio: 18
Page Number: 3

James Hopson 22 Groom
Sarah Hopson 20

Address:- Foster Street



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Deaths Jun 1850 (>99%)
HOPSON Sarah Greenwich 5 143


hmmmmmmmm ........... possibly not, unless she really lied about her age!

London, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980

Name: Sarah Hopson
Record Type: Burial
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1808
Death Date: abt 1850
Burial Date: 19 May 1850
Burial Place: St Paul, Deptford, England
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Paul, Deptford
Borough: Lewisham
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 May 2016 00:45

from ancestry

London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: James Patman Hopson
Spouse: Jane Green
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 6 Apr 1853
Parish: St Paul, Deptford
Borough: Lewisham
Father Name: James Hopson
Spouse Father: Charles Green
Register Type: Parish Register

from image:-

James
Full Age
Widower <<<<<<<<<
Occupation:- Lab (=Labourer)
Address:- Of This Parish
Father Occupation:- Coachman

Jane
Full Age
Spinster
no occupation shown
Address:- Of This Parish
Father Occupation:- Carpenter

Witnesses:- Thos Shapcott and Matilda Shapcott (her mark)


so that earlier marriage found by safc is definitely a possibility

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 May 2016 16:12

James Hobson

in the England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970
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Name: James Hobson
Birth Date: 29 Mar 1796
Gender: Male
Event Type: Baptism
Father: Jno Thody Hobson
Mother: Margaret Hobson
Baptism Date: 29 Jun 1796
Baptism Place: Spital Fields, London, England
Denomination: Independent
Piece Title: Piece 4537: Spital Fields, Whites Row Chapel (Independent), 1775-1837

Name: John Thody Hobson
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 22 May 1790
Marriage Place: Saint Botolph Bishopsgate,London,London,England
Spouse: Margaret Botten
FHL Film Number: 380147, 380148, 380149, 547171

John Thody
Last name Hobson
Name note -
Marriage year 1790
Marriage date 22 May 1790
Marriage place London
Spouse's first name(s) Margaret
Spouse's last name Botten
County London
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

JOHN THODY
Last name HOBSON
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year -
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1861
District HACKNEY
County London
Volume 1B
Page 225
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

John Thody Hobson

in the England & Wales, Christening Index, 1530-1980
Record Image No Image
Text-only collection

Report issue

Name: John Thody Hobson
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 7 Mar 1763
Christening Place: St. Mary Magdalen, Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Father: William Hobson
Mother: Elizabeth

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 May 2016 16:10

James Hopson

in the London, England, Non-conformist Registers, 1694-1921

Name: James Hopson
Birth Year: abt 1797
Burial Age: 46
Burial Date: 18 Apr 1843
Burial Place: Camden, Middlesex, England
Church: Whitefield´s Memorial Church

lived in St Pancras

safc

safc Report 27 May 2016 15:44

FreeReg Marriage entry on 27 May 2016
For information about this place follow the link to Frampton
If you believe there to be an error in this transcription then please report it to our data manager.
Field Value
County Lincolnshire
Place Frampton
Church name St Mary the Virgin
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 149
Marriage date 31 May 1790
Groom forename John
Groom surname PATMAN
Groom parish Frampton
Bride forename Mary
Bride surname DONNER
Bride parish Frampton
Witness John GODBEHERE
Witness Edward DOUGHTY
Register note

safc

safc Report 27 May 2016 15:43

FreeReg Baptism entry on 27 May 2016
For information about this place follow the link to Frampton
If you believe there to be an error in this transcription then please report it to our data manager.
Field Value
County Lincolnshire
Place Frampton
Church name St Mary the Virgin
Register type Unspecified
Baptism date 19 Jan 1794
Person forename Rebecca
Person sex F
Father forename John
Father surname PATMAN
Mother forename Mary
Mother surname PATMAN
Witness
Witness
Register note
Transcriber notes

safc

safc Report 27 May 2016 15:41

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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cleveland Street, Saint Pancras, Middlesex, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Rebecca Hopson Head Widow Female 58 1793 Laundress Frampton, Lincolnshire, England
Transcription
Rebecca H Hopson Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1834 Laundress St Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Transcription
Susannah Hopson Daughter Unmarried Female 11 1840 - Harrow, Middlesex, England
Transcription
Mary Potman Sister Unmarried Female 50 1801 Servant Frampton, Lincolnshire, England

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 May 2016 15:41

MARY JANE E
Last name HOPSON
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1896
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ MARY JANE E HOPSON married one of these people
RICHMOND JOHN HARRIS, GEORGE JAMES BALDWIN
District GREENWICH
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1D
Page 1760
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
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Maddie

Maddie Report 27 May 2016 15:38

Name: Alice Hopson
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 33
Birth Date: 1867
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1900
Marriage Place: St Paul, Deptford, Kent, England
Father: James Patman Hopson
Spouse: John Nicholas Wallington
FHL Film Number: 384882
Reference ID: v57 p131 n262

Name: Charles James Hopson
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Age: 40
Spouse: Ellen Clara Green
Spouse Age: 33
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Nov 1894
Parish: St John, Deptford
Borough: Lewisham
Father Name: James Patman Hopson
Spouse Father: William Charles Green
Register Type: Parish Register

Name: Richard Edward Hopson
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 18 Feb 1877
Marriage Place: St. Stephen'S, Lewisham, Kent, England
Father: James Patman Hopson
Spouse: Mary Ann Cole
FHL Film Number: 994177
Reference ID: item 3 p 108
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Name: Henry Thomas Hopson
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Age: 21
Spouse: Fanny James
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 6 Mar 1879
Parish: St Nicholas, Deptford
Borough: Greenwich
Father Name: James Patman Hopson
Register Type: Parish Register

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 May 2016 15:31

James
Last name Hopson
Residence St George Hanover Square
Marriage year 1821
Parish St George, Hanover Square
Spouse's first name(s) Rebekah
Spouse's last name Patman
Spouse residence St George Hanover Square
County Middlesex
Country England
Archive City of Westminster Archives Centre
Record set Westminster Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
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Maddie

Maddie Report 27 May 2016 15:30

1841
parents

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cleveland Mews, St Pancras, Middlesex, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
James Hopson Male 46 1795 Middlesex, England
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Rebecca Hopson Female 47 1794 Middlesex, England
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John Hopson Male 15 1826 Middlesex, England
Transcription
Ann Hopson Female 14 1827 -
Transcription
Mary Hopson Female 12 1829 -
Transcription
Ricd Hopson Male 9 1832 Middlesex, England
Transcription
Rebecca Hopson Female 7 1834 -
Transcription
Sarah Hopson Female 6 1835 -
Transcription
Susan Hopson Female 2 1839 Middlesex, England
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Maddie

Maddie Report 27 May 2016 15:28

marriage of Walter
Name: Walter Hopson
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Age: 24
Spouse: Caroline Tompsett
Spouse Age: 30
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 13 May 1894
Parish: St Paul, Deptford
Borough: Lewisham
Father Name: James Palman Hopson
Spouse Father: Edmund Tompsett
Register Type: Parish Register

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 May 2016 15:24

Name: James Patman Hopson
Year: 1896
County or Borough: Lewisham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Deptford
Street address: 1 Providence place

Name: James Patman Hopson
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Registration Year: 1896
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Greenwich
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 596

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 May 2016 15:21

1861 ???
Name: Jas Patman Hopson
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Hopson
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Deptford St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Deptford
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 122
Piece: 394
Folio: 117
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Jas Patman Hopson 38
Jane Hopson 34
Wm Hopson 9
Chas James Hopson 7
Rich Edwd Hopson 5
Henry Thos Hopson 3
Mary Jane Elizabeth Hopson 1
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Maddie

Maddie Report 27 May 2016 15:19

1851
Name: James Hopson
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Hopson
Gender: Male
Where born: St Martin in the Fields, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Deptford St Paul
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Town: Deptford
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 2f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 35
Piece: 1584
Folio: 302
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
James Hopson 28
Jane Hopson 24 -- born Bridgewater


Maddie

Maddie Report 27 May 2016 15:12

1891

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Patches Cottages, Charles Street, St Paul Deptford, Greenwich, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James P Hopson Head Married Male 67 1824 Living On Own Means London, England
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Jane Hopson Wife Married Female 64 1827 - Bridgwater, Somerset, England
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Alice Hopson Daughter Single Female 24 1867 - Deptford, Kent, England
Transcription
Walter Hopson Son Single Male 21 1870 Butchers Assistant Deptford, Kent, England

safc

safc Report 27 May 2016 14:39


England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription
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First name(s) James Patman
Last name Hopson
Name note -
Marriage year 1853
Marriage date 06 Apr 1853
Marriage place Deptford
Spouse's first name(s) Jane
Spouse's last name Green
County Kent
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain