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29 May 2016 05:45 |
Jane in 1871
Jane Hopson Wife - Female 44 1827 - Somerset, England William G Hopson Son - Male 19 1852 - Kent, England Richard E Hopson Son - Male 15 1856 - Kent, England Henry Hopson Son - Male 13 1858 - Kent, England James Hopson Son - Male 9 1862 - Kent, England Arthur Hopson Son - Male 7 1864 - Kent, England Alice Hopson Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Kent, England Walter Hopson Son - Male 1 1870 - Kent, England
Address:- Charles Street Batch Cottages, St Paul Deptford, Greenwich, London, England
so seems to be a total of at least 6 children. That also seems to have been the address for several years.
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29 May 2016 05:42 |
1871 Census
Name: James Patman Hopson Age: 49 Estimated birth year: abt 1822 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Middlesex, London, England Civil Parish: Gillingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Medway Sub-registration district: Gillingham ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 148 Piece: 907 Folio: 73 Page Number: 34
Henry Barret Bishop 38 Engine Driver in Dockyard Susan Bishop 32 William Bishop 13 Eleanor Bishop 12 Priscilla Bishop 5 Arthur Bishop 11 Months James Patman Hopson 49 Unmarried, Boarder, Dockyard Labourer
JP's occupation(s) in the censuses
1841 -- Groom 1851 -- Ag Labourer 1861 -- Labourer's Leading Man H.M Dock Yard 1871 -- Dockyard Labourer 1881 -- ??? 1891 -- Living on Own Means
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29 May 2016 04:37 |
ah!!!
Interesting ....
this is FMP's transcription of that 1841 Census. Notice the difference in Sarah's age??
James Hopson Male 22 1819 Middlesex, England Sarah Hopson Female 28 1813 Middlesex, England
looking at the image ....... the FMP transcriber might well be correct!!
I have looked at several pages of the census, and there are about 6 examples of a number that is written in the same manner as Sarah's ....... most easily described as a backwards S lying on its side! ......... has to be an 8. 8 is the only number that is not very clearly written
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29 May 2016 01:05 |
as posted by safc, possible earlier marriage for James
First name(s) JAMES PATMAN Last name HOPSON Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1839 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ JAMES PATMAN HOPSON married one of these people MARY MAHON, ENORAH RYAN, SARAH GLAZIER, ELIZA JONES District KENSINGTON
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1841 Census
Name: James Hopson Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1819 Gender: Male Where born: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Bethnal Green Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Church
Piece: 691 Book: 10 Folio: 18 Page Number: 3
James Hopson 22 Groom Sarah Hopson 20
Address:- Foster Street
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Deaths Jun 1850 (>99%) HOPSON Sarah Greenwich 5 143
hmmmmmmmm ........... possibly not, unless she really lied about her age!
London, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980
Name: Sarah Hopson Record Type: Burial Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1808 Death Date: abt 1850 Burial Date: 19 May 1850 Burial Place: St Paul, Deptford, England Parish or Poor Law Union: St Paul, Deptford Borough: Lewisham Register Type: Bishop's Transcript
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29 May 2016 00:45 |
from ancestry
London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: James Patman Hopson Spouse: Jane Green Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 6 Apr 1853 Parish: St Paul, Deptford Borough: Lewisham Father Name: James Hopson Spouse Father: Charles Green Register Type: Parish Register
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James Full Age Widower <<<<<<<<< Occupation:- Lab (=Labourer) Address:- Of This Parish Father Occupation:- Coachman
Jane Full Age Spinster no occupation shown Address:- Of This Parish Father Occupation:- Carpenter
Witnesses:- Thos Shapcott and Matilda Shapcott (her mark)
so that earlier marriage found by safc is definitely a possibility
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27 May 2016 16:12 |
James Hobson
in the England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970 Record Image View
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Name: James Hobson Birth Date: 29 Mar 1796 Gender: Male Event Type: Baptism Father: Jno Thody Hobson Mother: Margaret Hobson Baptism Date: 29 Jun 1796 Baptism Place: Spital Fields, London, England Denomination: Independent Piece Title: Piece 4537: Spital Fields, Whites Row Chapel (Independent), 1775-1837
Name: John Thody Hobson Gender: Male Marriage Date: 22 May 1790 Marriage Place: Saint Botolph Bishopsgate,London,London,England Spouse: Margaret Botten FHL Film Number: 380147, 380148, 380149, 547171
John Thody Last name Hobson Name note - Marriage year 1790 Marriage date 22 May 1790 Marriage place London Spouse's first name(s) Margaret Spouse's last name Botten County London Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
JOHN THODY Last name HOBSON Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year - Age - Death quarter 3 Death year 1861 District HACKNEY County London Volume 1B Page 225 Country England Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from Great Britain
John Thody Hobson
in the England & Wales, Christening Index, 1530-1980 Record Image No Image Text-only collection
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Name: John Thody Hobson Gender: Male Birth Date: 7 Mar 1763 Christening Place: St. Mary Magdalen, Bermondsey, Surrey, England Father: William Hobson Mother: Elizabeth
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27 May 2016 16:10 |
James Hopson
in the London, England, Non-conformist Registers, 1694-1921
Name: James Hopson Birth Year: abt 1797 Burial Age: 46 Burial Date: 18 Apr 1843 Burial Place: Camden, Middlesex, England Church: Whitefield´s Memorial Church
lived in St Pancras
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27 May 2016 15:44 |
FreeReg Marriage entry on 27 May 2016 For information about this place follow the link to Frampton If you believe there to be an error in this transcription then please report it to our data manager. Field Value County Lincolnshire Place Frampton Church name St Mary the Virgin Register type Unspecified Register entry number 149 Marriage date 31 May 1790 Groom forename John Groom surname PATMAN Groom parish Frampton Bride forename Mary Bride surname DONNER Bride parish Frampton Witness John GODBEHERE Witness Edward DOUGHTY Register note
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27 May 2016 15:43 |
FreeReg Baptism entry on 27 May 2016 For information about this place follow the link to Frampton If you believe there to be an error in this transcription then please report it to our data manager. Field Value County Lincolnshire Place Frampton Church name St Mary the Virgin Register type Unspecified Baptism date 19 Jan 1794 Person forename Rebecca Person sex F Father forename John Father surname PATMAN Mother forename Mary Mother surname PATMAN Witness Witness Register note Transcriber notes
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27 May 2016 15:41 |
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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Cleveland Street, Saint Pancras, Middlesex, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Rebecca Hopson Head Widow Female 58 1793 Laundress Frampton, Lincolnshire, England Transcription Rebecca H Hopson Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1834 Laundress St Marylebone, Middlesex, England Transcription Susannah Hopson Daughter Unmarried Female 11 1840 - Harrow, Middlesex, England Transcription Mary Potman Sister Unmarried Female 50 1801 Servant Frampton, Lincolnshire, England
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27 May 2016 15:41 |
MARY JANE E Last name HOPSON Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1896 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ MARY JANE E HOPSON married one of these people RICHMOND JOHN HARRIS, GEORGE JAMES BALDWIN District GREENWICH District number - County London Country England Volume 1D Page 1760 Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
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27 May 2016 15:38 |
Name: Alice Hopson Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Age: 33 Birth Date: 1867 Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1900 Marriage Place: St Paul, Deptford, Kent, England Father: James Patman Hopson Spouse: John Nicholas Wallington FHL Film Number: 384882 Reference ID: v57 p131 n262
Name: Charles James Hopson Estimated birth year: abt 1854 Age: 40 Spouse: Ellen Clara Green Spouse Age: 33 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 4 Nov 1894 Parish: St John, Deptford Borough: Lewisham Father Name: James Patman Hopson Spouse Father: William Charles Green Register Type: Parish Register
Name: Richard Edward Hopson Gender: Male Marriage Date: 18 Feb 1877 Marriage Place: St. Stephen'S, Lewisham, Kent, England Father: James Patman Hopson Spouse: Mary Ann Cole FHL Film Number: 994177 Reference ID: item 3 p 108 Cancel
Name: Henry Thomas Hopson Estimated birth year: abt 1858 Age: 21 Spouse: Fanny James Spouse Age: 23 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 6 Mar 1879 Parish: St Nicholas, Deptford Borough: Greenwich Father Name: James Patman Hopson Register Type: Parish Register
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27 May 2016 15:31 |
James Last name Hopson Residence St George Hanover Square Marriage year 1821 Parish St George, Hanover Square Spouse's first name(s) Rebekah Spouse's last name Patman Spouse residence St George Hanover Square County Middlesex Country England Archive City of Westminster Archives Centre Record set Westminster Marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
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27 May 2016 15:30 |
1841 parents
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Cleveland Mews, St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place James Hopson Male 46 1795 Middlesex, England Transcription Rebecca Hopson Female 47 1794 Middlesex, England Transcription John Hopson Male 15 1826 Middlesex, England Transcription Ann Hopson Female 14 1827 - Transcription Mary Hopson Female 12 1829 - Transcription Ricd Hopson Male 9 1832 Middlesex, England Transcription Rebecca Hopson Female 7 1834 - Transcription Sarah Hopson Female 6 1835 - Transcription Susan Hopson Female 2 1839 Middlesex, England Transcription Census details
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27 May 2016 15:28 |
marriage of Walter Name: Walter Hopson Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Age: 24 Spouse: Caroline Tompsett Spouse Age: 30 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 13 May 1894 Parish: St Paul, Deptford Borough: Lewisham Father Name: James Palman Hopson Spouse Father: Edmund Tompsett Register Type: Parish Register
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27 May 2016 15:24 |
Name: James Patman Hopson Year: 1896 County or Borough: Lewisham Ward or Division/Constituency: Deptford Street address: 1 Providence place
Name: James Patman Hopson Estimated birth year: abt 1822 Registration Year: 1896 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 74 Registration district: Greenwich Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: London Volume: 1d Page: 596
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27 May 2016 15:21 |
1861 ??? Name: Jas Patman Hopson Age: 38 Estimated birth year: 1823 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Hopson Gender: Male Civil Parish: Deptford St Paul Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Town: Deptford County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Greenwich Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 122 Piece: 394 Folio: 117 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Jas Patman Hopson 38 Jane Hopson 34 Wm Hopson 9 Chas James Hopson 7 Rich Edwd Hopson 5 Henry Thos Hopson 3 Mary Jane Elizabeth Hopson 1 Cancel
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27 May 2016 15:19 |
1851 Name: James Hopson Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1823 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Hopson Gender: Male Where born: St Martin in the Fields, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Deptford St Paul Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish Town: Deptford County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View image Registration district: Greenwich Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford ED, institution, or vessel: 2f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 35 Piece: 1584 Folio: 302 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age James Hopson 28 Jane Hopson 24 -- born Bridgewater
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27 May 2016 15:12 |
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1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Patches Cottages, Charles Street, St Paul Deptford, Greenwich, London, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James P Hopson Head Married Male 67 1824 Living On Own Means London, England Transcription Jane Hopson Wife Married Female 64 1827 - Bridgwater, Somerset, England Transcription Alice Hopson Daughter Single Female 24 1867 - Deptford, Kent, England Transcription Walter Hopson Son Single Male 21 1870 Butchers Assistant Deptford, Kent, England
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27 May 2016 14:39 |
England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription Print transcription First name(s) James Patman Last name Hopson Name note - Marriage year 1853 Marriage date 06 Apr 1853 Marriage place Deptford Spouse's first name(s) Jane Spouse's last name Green County Kent Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
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