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Amy

Amy Report 10 Aug 2016 23:59

Hi +++DetEcTive+++

So I have accessed the records and the address listed on there matches up to Ronalds which is great and also lists another relative which I haven't found, which is very interesting. Again the strange thing is it lists a middle name which I really cant work out, unless she was known as Helen..... it certainly isn't on her birth certificate which I purchased a few months back.... I will have a look into the newspaper articles that's a really good idea. Cost really isn't an issue but the problem I'm finding is almost pin pointing the right Nellie Wright, as you can imagine for the era I am looking at this name was quite common and I don't really want to be buying lots of things for the wrong people. Its just great that there are people like yourself who can provide a little guidance and give people ideas and the confidence to look at other sites and places which I am extremely grateful for :)

Thanks

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 11 Aug 2016 00:09

Glad to have been of service. We all have different ways of thinking and some may not be in the expected linear direction. As said early, there is No Nellie Helen Wright death registered in 1981. If I'd made an error, other members eagle eyes would have picked up on it. Helen was probably added at the Funeral Directors. Alternatively, there could have been a transcription error made at the crematorium. A known relative was copied on to the Register as Edward. He can tell you himself that he isn't nor has he ever been anything like that!

The newspaper suggestion was because of the delay between death as per the cremation record, the death registration and then the cremation.
The later two could just have been the earliest convenient or bookable date - family had prior arrangements or the crematorium was particularly busy.

Death to registration is a bit strange. Could she have gone through a post-mortem? Was there a delay in finding her body? Who knows!

If you're lucky, you might find a death announcement or other relevant article. Do bear in mind that an archivist or librarian charges search fees. If you can't visit in person to under take searches, the DC would be cheaper.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 11 Aug 2016 00:22

A passing thought - did the cremation entry mention the Funeral Directors? If so, it might be possible to trace them to see if they still have the original records. Unlikely but...

Are there any qualifications regarding the Doctor who issued permission to cremate? Eg Coroner for SE London, or similar. Research the address given to see if it was a hospital or surgery.

mgnv

mgnv Report 11 Aug 2016 01:26

DetEcTive - RE: "With no headstone, there's not going to be anything on Billionsofgraves or Findagrave where the details/photo's are uploaded. "

I had the impression that Findagrave mostly noted headstone info, but occassionaly, I've seen records there for some cemeteries that look like they've been taken from the cemetery registers

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 11 Aug 2016 09:30

Mgnv- yes that is true. However the 2 Sourh London crems/cemeteries have only in the last 10 years or so, released their records to deceasedonline. As far as I'm aware, they are not open to public searches, only via DoL.
Eltham Cemetery is Huge! Eltham Crem is actually jointly run by several councils including the London Borough of Bexley in N Kent. Can't comment via personal knowledge about Hither Green.

Amy

Amy Report 11 Aug 2016 09:47

Hi Chris Ho
yes that post did relate, the reason I deleted it is because there are living relatives who may not know about us, I am searching for my grandmothers parents (at her request) who gave her up at birth, the living relatives are siblings. I felt that the best thing would be to deleted the post should they stumble upon it as I don't want to case anyone any stress or heartache.

+++DetEcTive+++ I will have a look at your suggestions that certainly gives me something else to go on :)

Thanks both for your help

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 11 Aug 2016 10:35

(ah, ok, no worries, just that it looked like somebody had been on Probate Index)

Chris :)