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Kay
Sorry - in my last read Sophia !!!! not Sarah
David

Kay
Yes the first entry is Sarah dau of Edward who was son of Edward
David

Newspaper--Reading Mercury 20th Aug 1859.

On 12th inst,at Wandsworth
Wm Thomas . 2nd son of late Joseph Hillier High St Battersea to Sophia eldest dau of late Mr Edward Ridgard of Brompton Midd/sex.



Newspaper --Wiltshire Ind.30th August.

1866 at St Mary Church Gt Bedwyn on 23 Aug Edwin Sawyer to Sarah *widow *of late Edward Ridgard of London.

relations.

(was seeing Ellen Ridgyard as witness above, so just wondered!)

Chris :)

Not seeing anything Probate for Edward...

Chris Ho
Thanks - I've got Francis will - which proved very helpful in its details

Not sure about Ann Ridgyard 1807 marriage..........
David

County Middlesex
Place St Marylebone
Church name St Mary le Bone
Register type Transcript
Marriage date 27 Sep 1807
Groom forename Thomas
Groom surname LLEWELLYN
Groom condition Bachelor
Bride forename Ann
Bride surname RIDGYARD
Bride condition Spinster
Witness Thomas PERRIN
Witness Ellen RIDGYARD
Register note By Benj Lawrence.

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

(probably relates as well)

Chris :)

All England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858 (Ancestry)

Francis Ridgard
21 Sep 1850 Kilburn, Middlesex, England

(aboves relates also, has mention of Ranelagh Street, Liverpool, relates to Eleanor 1867)

Thanks Folks - I've got all those census entries and yes that (1840) marriage is the right one. The later lives of the children are worked out - it's just father Edward I am
struggling with.......... the 1817 death looks very promising ..........
Thanks for all your efforts
David

Westminster Marriages Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Edward
Last name Ridgard
Residence St George Hanover Square
Marriage year 1831
Parish St George, Hanover Square
Spouse's first name(s) Sarah
Spouse's last name Bird
Spouse residence St George Hanover Square
County Middlesex

(above has a Mary Ann Ridgard, Witness)


(if relating, one below)

London, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980 (Ancestry)

Edward Ridgard abt 1804 30 Dec 1837 Holy Trinity, Brompton Kensington and Chelsea
(Abode, Somerset Place)

Chris :)

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

(Eleanor on above, 1867)


Edits (also below)

Mary Redgard Burial 1815. Spa Fields (also on Non Conformist Burials, Find My Past. (age 1, St. Andrews)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/

Do you have this record of Francis' baptism, which gives an address?

from Freereg2

County London
Place Farringdon
Church name St Andrew Holborn
Register type Parish Register
Baptism date 17 Jan 1808
Person forename Francis
Person sex M
Person abode Robinhood Court
Father forename Edward
Father surname RIDGARD
Mother forename Eleanor

In case you don't have this, Jessey and Edawrd are still living in Liveprool in 1891

1891 Census

Name: Jessy Hartley
Age: 75
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Edward Hartley
Gender: Female
Where born: St Pancras, London, England
Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 64

Piece: 2936
Folio: 72
Page Number: 28

Edward Hartley 77 b.ca 1814, Liverpool
Jessy Hartley 75
Martha Darley 24

from ancestry

Liverpool, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921

Name: Jessy Ridgard
Age: Full Age
Marriage Date: 20 Sep 1840
Parish: Liverpool, St Philip
Spouse's Name: Edward Hartley
Father's name: Edward Ridgard
Spouse Father's Name: John Hartley
Reference Number: 283 PLP/3/7

from image:-

Edward Hartley
Of Full Age
Bachelor
Occupation:- Hosier
Address:- Whitechapel
Father Occupation:- Shoe Maker

Jessy
Of Full Age
no occupation shown
Spinster
Address:- Ranelagh St, Liverpool
Father occupation:- Jeweller

Witnesses:- Thos Stott (I think, hard to read!) and Maryann Ridgard


It does not say that Edward Ridgard is deceased, but that merely means that Jessy was not asked the correct question!

is this Edward ridgard's parents marriage



Francis Ridgard

mentioned in the record of Francis Ridgard and Barbara Hall

Name Francis Ridgard
Spouse's Name Barbara Hall
Event Date 08 Nov 1780
Event Place Cathedral Saint Peter,Sheffield,York,England

Perhaps this child died as a Francis Ridgard baptised 1808 posted above??

Name: Edward-francis Ridgard
Baptism Date: 1 Jan 1804
Parish: St Bride's, Fleet Street
County: London
Borough: City of London
Parent(s): Edward Ridgard,
Eleanor Ridgard
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register

Note in margin - 16 New Street Square and June 22nd - so perhaps date born, so would have to be prior to 1804

Both records found on Find My Past

Yes I've got those census records. I made an error in my earlier message: the two children baptized in 1820 at St Pancras were born in 1810 and 1816.
Progress !!!
But please tell me which website has those burial records
Many Thanks
David

Is this Jessey and Mary Ann in 1841 - ages would fit as rounded down to nearest 5 in 1841 census (Jessey would be 24 and Mary Ann 30, so has perhaps knocked a year off)

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
White Chapel, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Amelia Chadwick Female 65 1776 Lancashire, England
Harriett Chadwick Female 40 1801 Lancashire, England
Amelia Chadwick Female 30 1811 Lancashire, England
Elizth Chadwick Female 25 1816 Lancashire, England
Edward Hartley Male 25 1816 Lancashire, England
Jessey Hartley Female 20 1821 -
Mary Ridyard Female 25 1816 -
Ann Leyland Female 20 1821 Lancashire, England

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Marriages Sep 1840 (>99%)
COOKE John Liverpool 20 315
CORDALL Ann Liverpool 20 315
HARTLEY Edward Liverpool 20 315
Jones Edward Liverpool 20 315
JONES Margaret Liverpool 20 315
PRESCOTT Ellener Liverpool 20 315
RIDGARD Jessey Liverpool 20 315
WILLIAMS William Barton 20 315
WRIGHT Joseph Liverpool 20 315

Records appear to show baptised as late as 1820, although born earlier for both Mary Ann and Jessy.

Eleanor and Mary Ann appear to have moved to the Liverpool area

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
7 House, 7, Russell Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Eleanor Ridgard Lodger Widow Female 86 1775 Living On Dividents City of London, Middlesex, England
Mary Ann Ridgard Daughter Unmarried Female 50 1811 Drapers Assistant City of London, Middlesex,

Wow -thank you that looks like him. His last child was baptized 1816 at St Pancras.
Many thanks, will follow up
David

The 1820 baptism was for Mary Ann born 1810

Mary Ann Ridgard
England Births and Christenings
Name Mary Ann Ridgard
Gender Female
Christening Date 16 Jan 1820
Christening Place OLD CHURCH,SAINT PANCRAS,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date 09 Jul 1810
Father's Name Edward Ridgard
Mother's Name Eleanor
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and for Jessy Ridgard born 1816

England Births and Christenings
Name Jessy Ridgard
Gender Female
Christening Date 16 Jan 1820
Christening Place OLD CHURCH,SAINT PANCRAS,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date 06 Nov 1816
Father's Name Edward Ridgard
Mother's Name Eleanor

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No birth date for Francis

Francis Ridgard
England Births and Christenings
Name Francis Ridgard
Gender Male
Christening Date 17 Jan 1808
Christening Place SAINT ANDREW,HOLBORN,LONDON,ENGLAND
Father's Name Edward Ridgard
Mother's Name Eleanor

Same person

Greater London Burial Index Transcription

First name(s) Edward
Last name Redgard
Age at death 36
Birth year 1781
Burial year 1817
Burial date 20 Feb 1817
Parish Spa Fields Burial Ground
Address St Pancras
City London
County Middlesex
Source City of London Burials 1754-1855
Record set Greater London Burial Index