Genealogy Chat

A person who was naturalised in England in the 1950s would need witnesses, is there anywhere I can find the names of these? I've contacted the archives at Kew but nobody of the name I'm looking for is recorded. Have I hit a brick wall? Would the naturalisation have been done in London? An alien registration card would be issued; can I find record of this? I also cannot find this person on the electoral roll or passenger lists. Thankyou.

Have you also tried the National Archives re Certificates of British Citizenship?

http://tinyurl.com/hp4tfc5

"For information on how to obtain a copy of a certificate of British nationality between 1 January 1949 and 30 September 1986 or a naturalisation issued between 1 January 1981 and 1 January 1986, please read Certificates of British citizenship instead."

http://tinyurl.com/zhr5erv

The National Archives also have alien registration cards:

http://tinyurl.com/zhdmfuo

Thankyou I'll look now.

Thought this might be the case - from one of the links

Naturalisation case papers (1934-1996)
The documents are subject to >>100 year closure<< (although access can be requested under the Freedom of Information Act 2000) and only about 40% of applications in this series have survived.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1339685

(is there a Surname Krilovs on above that relates?)

Chris :)

That other thread is fascinating - though I have to say it doesn't sound as if you're likely to find out anything about him if his name and documentation were all false.

I notice that in your other thread you said that he had told you his name was spelled wrong on the naturalisation papers which he later destroyed.
Could that be a contributing factor to Kew not being able to trace his naturalisation?

It would have been nice if RStar had replied to the last posts in that other thread ...

There was also the much earlier one:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_topics/thread/745343?px=0

And as I noted in that other thread, RStar has made efforts in this case in many places on the internet.

Oh, and quite a few other threads at this very site -- google search:

site:www.genesreunited.co.uk "krilovs" -romany


Vague hypothetical questions that ultimately lead to requests for details in order to help in searching generally do end up ploughing the same fields.

Have replied now, hadn't realised I had new replies. Reapplied to Kew, but nothing so I think it was a different surname. Where I can, I search just using his first and middle name (passenger lists etc) but still nothing. Going to check for new DNA matches today. Thankyou.

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/


have you looked on here Star,

enter Naturalisation in the search archives,, and leave Search all ticked,

There is no facility to a year search to cut down on time but are ramdon by year.

Thankyou for this, I'll look now Kay x

Its a fantastic find, I'll have a busy couple of nights. For anyone else using this, the search on the bottom left side can be narrowed down by putting in dates and selecting which edition of the Gazette (London, Belfast, or Edinburgh). Worth doing with the thousands of results that come up!