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i've paid to be on here GR and the search is useless can't find what i'm looking for, i can find all i want on other sites but can't see it unless i pay again. Why can't GR find information that the other sites can ? i don't really want to pay again.
whats the best way to search ?

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What exactly were you looking for? It possible we can advise you the best way to search on GR, or failing that suggest alternative free sites. Members with subs to other sites are always willing to look there.

Its worth remembering that GR tends to specialise in English & Welsh records. There are a few records sets for Scotland & Ireland but not really that much for 'overseas'.

Sounds like you have basic membership which is cheap compared to other subs sites that holds bmds census etc
It doesn't give you free access to the records as explained in the details of the subs

You can use FreeBMD which is a free site for bmds for sept qtr 1839 to c 1960's

i'm after the wedding of William Seagars and his wife Jemina 1865 in Lanarkshire Scotland.
Looking for her surname and any family information.

Thanks for your help :-)

Ahhh. Well you need Scotlands People site which is the only one that holds Scottish Bmds

It's not a subs site but free to search but you need to purchase units to look at the record

For that time you can look and download the actual record at a very reasonable unit cost

This will be the marriage you mean (per Scotlands People):

SEAGARS WILLIAM
BURGH JEMIMA
1866
644/4 22
22
Calton (Glasgow)


If you buy credits on S, you can view and print the image of the original certificate. It will give you their parents' names and occupations.

Here you are on the free search but you need units to view the info


Surname Forename Spouse Surname Spouse Forename Year Ref Entry Number RD Name Image View
SEAGARS WILLIAM. BURGH JEMIMA 1866 644/4 22. 22 Calton (Glasgow)
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The only Jemima Burgh showing in births on SP was born 1877, so not her.

The image might give clues, with parents' names, or possible mistranscription.

Not sure if it's still the case, but when you first register, you used to be given a certain amount of credits to use.

Just like England & Wales, you can search the index for free, but need to purchase the certificate to view the details

Here they are on the 1871 census

1871 Scotland Census No Image

Name: Jemima Seagars
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : William Seagars
Gender: Female
Where born: Tollcross, Lanark
Registration Number: 644/3
Registration district: Bridgeton
Civil Parish: Glasgow Calton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 56 Harvie Street
ED: 77
Household schedule number: 46
LINE: 9
Roll: CSSCT1871_129
Household Members:
Name Age
William Seagars 28
Jemima Seagars 28
John Seagars 3
James Seagars 1

And the 1881 census

Name: Jemina Seagars
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Wm Seagars
Gender: Female
Where born: Tollcross
Registration Number: 644/2
Registration district: Camlachie
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 301 London Rd.
ED: 51
Household schedule number: 83
LINE: 12
Roll: cssct1881_218
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm Seagars 37
Jemina Seagars 37
John Seagars 13
James Seagars 11


1891 census

Name: Jemima Seagars
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : William Seagars
Gender: Female
Where born: Tollcross, Lanark
Registration Number: 654
Registration district: Rutherglen
Civil Parish: Rutherglen
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 21 Smith Terrace
ED: 27
Household schedule number: 45
LINE: 12
Roll: CSSCT1891_321
Household Members:
Name Age
William Seagars 47
Jemima Seagars 48

Looks like children have left home by 1891

Jemima on the 1851 census
Jamima Burgh
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relationship: Daughter
Mother: Susan Burgh
Gender: Female
Where born: Monkland, Lanark
Parish Number: 622
Civil Parish: Calton
Town: Bridgeton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 143 Main Street
ED: 18A
Page: 16
Household schedule number: 64
LINE: 13
Roll: CSSCT1851_147
Household Members:
Name Age
Susan Burgh 31
John Burgh 9
Jamima Burgh 7
SAVE Cancel
Source Citation
Parish: Calton; ED: 18A; Page: 16; Line: 13; Roll: CSSCT1851_147; Year: 1851

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Jemima Burgess
in the 1861 Scotland Census
Name: Jemima Burgess
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relationship: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Tollcross, Lanark
Registration Number: 644/3
Registration district: Bridgeton
Civil Parish: Glasgow Calton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 143 Main St
Occupation: Steam Loom Cotton Weaver
ED: 72
Household schedule number: 34
LINE: 4
Roll: CSSCT1861_101
Household Members:
Name Age
Ellen Kirkwood 63
Jemima Burgess 18
Jane Clark 28
Agnes Johnston 21

Looks like she went to Canada

Jemima Seagars
Birth Date: 1843
Birth Place: Scotland
Death Date: 3 Apr 1901
Death Place: Yarmouth, Yarmouth County, Nova Scotia, Canada
Cemetery: Yarmouth Mountain Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Yarmouth, Yarmouth County, Nova Scotia, Canada
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: William Seagars
URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...

Possibly her parents' marriage:

KELLY
SUSAN
JAMES BROUGH/FR4708 (FR4708)
06/10/1839
622/
170 700
Barony


A tree on Ancestry says her parents were James De Burgh and Susan Kelley or Keller.


Probably her parents in 1841:

Susan Brugh
in the 1841 Scotland Census
Name: Susan Brugh
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Gender: Female
Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland
Civil Parish: Shettleston
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Cawsewagside
Parish Number: 622
Household Members:
Name Age
James Brugh 25
Susan Brugh 25
John Brugh 2 Mo

???

Mrs Seagars
in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Mrs Seagars
Gender: Female
Age: 49
Birth Date: abt 1844
Departure Date: 10 Feb 1893
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Destination Port: Boston, USA
Ship Name: Peruvian
Shipping line: Allan Line And State Line
Master: J W Nunan

Travelling with James Seagars, 23.

???
Seems to be travelling alone:

J Seagars
in the Massachusetts, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1963
Name: J Seagars
Gender: Female
Age: 55
Birth Date: abt 1843
Departure Place: Yarmouth, Nova Scotia
Arrival Date: 22 Sep 1898
Arrival Place: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Last Residence: Nova Scotia
Ship: Yarmouth

Wm Seagars [Mrs Wm Seagars on image]
in the Massachusetts, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1963
Name: Wm Seagars
Gender: Female
Age: 56
Birth Date: abt 1843
Departure Place: Yarmouth, Nova Scotia
Arrival Date: 7 Oct 1899
Arrival Place: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Last Residence: Nova Scotia
Ship: Prince George


Travelling with Mr J Seagars, 27; Agnes, 3; Mamie, 1.

Wm Seagars
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Wm Seagars
Arrival Date: 2 Aug 1903
Birth Date: abt 1844
Age: 59
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scottish (Scotish)
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Furnessia


Widowed; weaving overseer; last residence Rutherglen; going to North Park Street, Yarmough, NS.