Genealogy Chat

Hi again! Sorry CasCas, having probs with this Genes thing (I'm NOT skilled) and have just read your updates! xx

Hi everyone! I am Manuela Hillary (was Kim Greenwood) and have since found out that my birth mum's husband's name (who did not acknowledge that he was my father) is DONALD and not RONALD. I have also got a copy of my sister's birth certificate thanks to CasCas and she was actually born on 18 December 1962 but registered in 1963. I know that Donald's regiment was in Ireland in 1960-61, so given the presumably Irish origin of Elizabeth's maiden name maybe they met and married there? Thank you all for your kind help and support! xx

Unfortunately, this birth will relate to that marriage:

Elizabeth H Heys
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2005
Name: Elizabeth H Heys
Mother's Maiden Surname: Johnson
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1940
Registration district: Oldham
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8d
Page Number: 1320

https://www.facebook.com/groups/489403587858920/


https://www.facebook.com/groups/489403587858920/permalink/1012770762188864/


perhaps someone on the facebook group will have known Ronald personally



Marriages Dec 1960 (>99%)
Greenwood Ronald Heys Oldham 10f 150 Scan available - click to view
HEYS Elizabeth H GREENWOOD Oldham 10f 150 Scan available - click to view.


although HEYS is the name given perhaps it was a married surname and Mcillray/Mcillroy had been the maiden name.?

always a chance they married in Ireland.?

Sorry everyone. I hadnt realised that there had been further posts on here.

The address of Stephanies birth cert was Military Hospital Catterick.

Im afraid we've no idea if Stephanie was baptised but that maybe something o look into.

I have also searched for any Elizabeth marrying any McIlray but nothing found.

Thanks again everyone for all suggestions

Cassie

I've already searched (16 July @ 16:29 ) for a marriage of a McIlray and an Elizabeth, and found none.

They may have married in Germany, as also already suggested.

Hi have you searched to find out where the regiment was before Catterick also wonder if it was a second marriage for Elizabeth and she got married using a married surname?

Is it likely that Stephanie was baptised, ...possibly in Catterick Garrison... if the family were soon posted overseas?

Maybe godparents would show in the parish record and possibly these might be close family.

Hello Cassie, what address is given on Stephanie's birth certificate?

**UPDATE** just received the certificate for the first daughter Stephanie GREENWOOD b. dec 1962

It IS the same mother as mentioned on my first post Elizabeth GREENWOOD formerly MCILRAY and father is DONALD GREENWOOD NOT Ronald as mentioned on the certificate for Kim (Eliz's 2nd daughter).

On Kims cert it states Elizabeth is husband of Ronald Greenwood and his army number 23312699 DWR. Father left blank (believed Ronald/Donald not the father)

On Stephanie's cert it says father DONALD with same army number so I'm 99% certain Kim's birth cert contains an ERROR. I'm sure if Stephanie's cert had the wrong fathers name it would have been picked up but as he wasn't the father of the 2nd child it has probably been left incorrect?

Anyway it doesn't seem to have made much difference to all the searches already done as every connotation was tried for MCILRAY marriages, Greenwoods etc etc.

I thought as we have no idea the dob of either parent it may be easier to try to search for just Stephanie now?

I am unable to find any matches on the elec rolls in parents names living together but may have separated or gone abroad?


Regards
Cassie :-S

Thanks everyone. Yes I beginning to think Elizabeth was born elsewhere and married too.

Hopefully the borth cert for her first daughter will help.

Ill keep everyone posted

Cassie :-D

No sign of her on SP, as already investigated.
Lots of McIlroys and other spellings, but no McIlrays.

We get the feeling that Elizabeth Mcilray may have been born in Scotland?

Finger's crossed the address will prove useful. Keep us updated

Hi Jan. Manuela is the lady Im assisting with this search. She has only just set up the tree along with her friend Bev who has also listed.

Unfortunately they know as much as me and thats not a lot ha ha

Thanks anyway
Cassie :-)

If you check the members trees on here a Manuela Greenwood has the names you are looking for. Don't put in a place of birth in the search for them. You could try sending a message.

I've searched every connotation of spellings even Greenwood's marrying anyone with name beginning with Mc* with no luck.

I'm beginning to think Miss McIlray was herself born overseas ((maybe her own father was in the forces?)

I've now ordered the birth certificate of Stephanie b1963 Yorkshire to see if it gives us any clues. Maybe an address?

I'm very grateful for everyone's efforts - thanks so much

Cass

I have already posted this but am now unable to see it so here goes again. Maylon Im afraid I dont know when or where Ronald was born.

Regards
Cassie

Thankyou everyone for your responses. I seem to be having a problem with Genes this evening and I am unable to read new posts even though Ive had an email to say Ive had new responses or my my own last post.

Sorry if it appears Im ignoring anyone I will get back to you somehow.

Thankyou all for all your interest and searches

Regards
Cassie

Thank you so much for looking that up thank you, ArgyllGran :-)