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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1877 (>99%)
DAW Mary Ann Tenterden 2a 1147
Frampton William John Tenterden 2a 1147 <<<<<<<<<<<<
Martin Frederick George Tenterden 2a 1147
Oliver Mary Ann F Tenterden 2a 1147 <<<<<<<<<<<

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:

FRAMPTON, ERNEST WILLIAM JAMES OLIVER Order
GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in TENTERDEN UNION Volume 02A Page 723

FRAMPTON, WINIFRED DAISY KATE OLIVER Order
GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in TENTERDEN UNION Volume 02A Page 732

FRAMPTON, JOHN ALBERT OLIVER OLIVER Order
GRO Reference: 1881 J Quarter in TENTERDEN Volume 02A Page 737 Order

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Road, Stone, Tenterden, Kent, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Frampton Head - Male 56 1815 - Kent, England Mason, unemployed
Elizabeth Frampton Wife - Female 56 1815 - Kent, England
James H Frampton Son - Male 20 1851 - Kent, England
William J Frampton Son - Male 17 1854 - Kent, England
Albert A Frampton Son - Male 14 1857 - Kent, England
Katherine M Frampton Daughter - Female 10 1861 - Kent, England
William Huggett Grandson - Male 6 1865 - Kent, England

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Work House Yard, Stone Next Tenterden, Tenterden, Kent, England

First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
James Frampton Male 26 1815 Kent, England Transcription
Elisabeth Frampton Female 26 1815 Kent, England Transcription
Susannah Frampton Female 0 1841 Kent, England Transcription

Living close to a William Frampton aged 69 a Bricklayer, Charlotte Frampton aged 64 and Frederick Frampton aged 22

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1840 (>99%)
FRAMPTON James Tenterden 5 481
HOLDSTOCK Elizabeth Tenterden 5 481

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Results:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
FRAMPTON, ALBERT ALFRED HOLDSTOCK Order
GRO Reference: 1856 S Quarter in OF TENTERDEN UNION Volume 02A Page 423

FRAMPTON, WILLIAM JOHN HOLDSTOCK
GRO Reference: 1853 D Quarter in TENTERDEN UNION Volume 02A Page 422

You need certificates to prove each generation

Baptism
County Kent
Place Wittersham
Church name St John the Baptist
Register type Bishop's Transcripts
Register entry number 274
Baptism date 13 Oct 1878
Birth date 10 Aug 1878
Person forename Ernest William James
Person sex M
Person abode Upper Heath Appledore
Father forename William John
Father surname FRAMPTON
Father occupation Bricklayer
Mother forename Mary Ann
Register note DoB & abode - Tenterden Union Vaccination Register


County Kent
Place Stone in Oxney
Church name St Mary
Register type Parish Register
Marriage date 30 Oct 1897
Groom forename Ernest William James
Groom surname FRAMPTON
Bride forename Jane
Bride surname DAW


County Kent
Place Wittersham
Church name St John the Baptist
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 261
Marriage date 27 Oct 1877
Groom forename William John
Groom surname FRAMPTON
Groom age of full age
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom parish Stone in Oxney
Groom occupation Bricklayer
Bride forename Mary Ann Faithfull
Bride surname OLIVER
Bride age of full age
Bride condition Spinster
Groom father forename James
Groom father surname FRAMPTON
Groom father occupation Bricklayer
Bride father forename William
Bride father surname OLIVER
Bride father occupation Labourer
Witness William OLIVER
Witness Julia OLIVER


County Kent
Place Stone in Oxney
Church name St Mary
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 7
Marriage date 11 Aug 1840
Groom forename James
Groom surname FRAMPTON
Groom age of full age
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation bricklayer
Bride forename Elizabeth
Bride surname HOLDSTOCK
Bride age of full age
Bride condition spinster
Groom father forename William
Groom father surname FRAMPTON
Groom father occupation Bricklayer
Witness Thomas MARTIN
Witness Mary MARTIN
Register note Both sign X.


Baptism
County Kent
Place Stone in Oxney
Church name St Mary
Register type Bishop's Transcripts
Register entry number 14
Baptism date 23 Jun 1814
Person forename James
Person sex M
Father forename William
Father surname FRAMPTON
Father occupation Bricklayer
Mother forename Charlotte


(above from below link)

https://www.freereg.org.uk/


http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Kent/Lydd.html

(Charles Walter Frampton on above. Died 17/2/17)

Chris :)

(if below relates)

Deaths Dec 1931 (>99%)
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Pope Rose E 42 Rye 2b 6


Birth
BRYANT, ROSE ELLEN (STONE)
GRO Reference: 1889 D Quarter in RYE Volume 02B Page 10


Marriages Jun 1882 (>99%)
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BRYANT Thomas Rye 2b 5
STONE Elizabeth Jane Rye 2b 5


1901 (Find My Past)
Thomas Bryant Head Married Male 39 1862 Labourer At Water Works Cranbrook, Kent, England
Jane E Bryant Wife Married Female 36 1865 - Mountfield, Sussex, England
George W Bryant Son Single Male 13 1888 Carter On Farm Brede, Sussex, England
Ellen R Bryant Daughter Single Female 11 1890 - Brede, Sussex, England
Florence A Bryant Daughter Single Female 9 1892 - Brede, Sussex, England
Charles L Bryant Son Single Male 7 1894 - Brede, Sussex, England
Reginald A Bryant Son Single Male 5 1896 - Brede, Sussex, England
Orlow F Bryant Daughter Single Female 4 1897 - Brede, Sussex, England
Robert A Bryant Son Single Male 2 1899 - Brede, Sussex, England
Clarence T Bryant Son Single Male 1 1900 - Brede, Sussex, England
Alice J Bryant Daughter Single Female 0 1901 - Udimore, Sussex, England
Pound House, Udimore, Rye, Sussex

Just to say it wasn't unusual for family to be evacuated with the father staying behind

They worked and needed to stay in their jobs
Farming was essential War work
My dad worked at the Woolwich Arsenal so was exempted as he was doing essential War work too
Myself and two elder sibling went first from SE London in sept 1939
Mum came later in 1943 with a brother was born in 1941
Dad wanted them both safe but he still stayed home and worked

I agree with Shirley. I had a friend who spent the war years with her mother with cousins in Devon. Father stayed in London and visited occasionally.

Ernest John (1912) is in some trees on Ancestry that give him as marrying in 1941 in Folkestone.

This looks like the marriage:
Marriages Sep 1941
Frampton Ernest J Heritage Folkestone 2a 4527
Heritage Louisa A Frampton Folkestone 2a 4527

It was her second marriage, born Louisa A Austin.

Thought they must have divorced as Elsie didn't talk much about the family

This looks like her death


First name(s) ELSIE E
Last name FRAMPTON
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1911
Age 55
Death quarter 4
Death year 1966
District Sodbury
County Gloucestershire
Volume 7B
Page 594
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

Louisa Frampton dies in 1982, probate same address as Ernest.

There is a son to the Heritage/Austin marriage, born in 1922, in a tree on here.

Added:
Looks to have died in 2013, according to probate records.

British newspapers holds an account of events.

December 1940 of The Scotsman.

Too personal to put here..

Where did you find that Kay

Are you going to advise Deborah of the article

No Shirley I'll leave it to anyone whos already been helpng to do it,its rather sensitive.

:-)

I have pm,d Deborah

Thank you very much for getting back to me. I am away at the moment but as soon as I get back home I will have a good look at all your reply's.

Thank you
Deborah

Thank you every one that has looked into finding my family, I wish we could find out if there is anything on Elsie and if there is any living family. Can you give me advice on how to trace my mum's family.
Thank you
Deborah

Well this looks like Elsie s birth

POPE, ELSIE ELLEN BRYANT
GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in RYE Volume 02B Page 3 Order

Info about the Bryant family has been posted already

She had several siblings that you can follow up on

Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
Pope George E Bryant Rye 2b 4
Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Pope Muriel E Bryant Rye 2b 8
Births Mar 1915 (>99%)
Pope Charles R Bryant Rye 2b 1
Births Mar 1916 (>99%)
Pope Alice M Bryant Rye 2b 3