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Found an entry for a Jeremiah Higgins death in the Moston list for that workhouse.

Where would such people have been buried, and what details are contained in the register -ie next of kin. occupation, place of birth? etc

The name is not uncommon, and there are a couple of the same age in the Manchester area. Just trying to sort them out!

:-S

If he was buried in a church grave yard, the entry in the Register would give his name, age, possibly cause of death, and place of death / latest address (address from where he died), ie the workhouse.

No next of kin, parentage etc.

The entry in a cemetery register would be similar.

Even the workhouse entry would not give all the information you want. It MIGHT give the address and sometimes you get the wife's namefrom which he entered the Workhouse, especially if he was admitted to the hospital section not the general workhouse .............

remember the local workhouse had a hospital and that was the only place where poor people could get medical care, even mothers might have to go in there to give birth.

Burial records don't include NOK or birthplace info

The column headings for C of E burials are

Name
Abode
When Buried
Age
By whom the cermony was performed

You haven't given any date info, so we can't really help with lookups or checks

Having said that, is he the one admitted in 1888 from Hulme, aged 49, died 3.1.89?

First name(s) Jeremiah
Last name Higgins
Sex Male
Age 39
Birth year 1838
Marital status Single
Year 1877
Date 24 Dec 1877
Place -
Spouse's first name(s) Annie
Spouse's last name Hirons
Spouse's sex Female
Spouse's age 35
Spouse's birth year 1842
Spouse's marital status Single
Father's first name(s) Jeremiah
Father's last name Higgins
Spouse's father's first name(s) William
Spouse's father's last name Hirons

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
16, Daisey Street, Hulme, Chorlton, Lancashire, England

Jeremiah Higgins Head Married Male 42 1839 Ireland India Rubber Work Transcription
Annie Higgins Wife Married Female 38 1843 Hornton, Oxfordshire, England Charwoman

First name(s) Jeremiah
Last name Higgins
Birth year 1839
Birth parish Garfinny
Birth town Dingle
Birth county Kerry
Birth country Ireland
Service number 185
Rank PRIVATE
Regiment Dragoon Guards
Year 1858
Attestation date 02 Mar 1858
Attestation age years 19
Discharge corps 1st (King'S) Reg Of Dragoon Guards
Discharge service number 185
Document type Discharge
Series Wo 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army Service Records 1760-1913

WOW
That was a greater more informative response that I expected....thank you all so much.

MY problem was i have a Jeremiah Higgins, a weaver, who lived in Barton upon Irwell, Manchester , and who appears to emigrated to America, (1882-1888) with four of his five children - when the were in the late 20's and after his wife Mary, died in June 1/4 of 1886.

They appear in the census for 1900 in Philadelphia, ,Pennsylvania., with the exception of two children Mary and Sarah Ann, who may have married of course.

Thank you so much that was marvellous help. :-D

So, is this your family in 1881?

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
40, Barlow Street, Barton upon Irwell, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Jeremiah Higgins Head Married Male 44 1837 Ireland Cotton Weaver
Mary Higgins Wife Married Female 42 1839 Ireland -
Kate Higgins Daughter Single Female 18 1863 Manchester, Lancashire, England Cotton Weaver
Louisa Higgins Daughter Single Female 15 1866 Manchester, Lancashire, England Cotton Weaver
William Higgins Son Single Male 14 1867 Manchester, Lancashire, England Cotton Weaver
Mary A Higgins Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Manchester, Lancashire, England Scholar
Sarah A Higgins Daughter Single Female 5 1876 Patricroft, Lancashire, England Scholar

And the 1900 Philadelphia census you refer to? The ages for them are all slightly "out"
Said to have been in US for 12 years

All Cloth Weavers apaart form Ann Gagan the Housekeeper

Name: Jermiah Higgins
Age: 60
Birth Date: Mar 1840
Birthplace: Ireland
Home in 1900: Philadelphia Ward 19, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Ward of City: 19th
Street: Nth Orianna St
House Number: 152
Sheet Number: 8
Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 155
Family Number: 155
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1888
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Years in US: 12
Occupation: Weaver Cloth
Months not employed: 0
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
Can Speak English: Yes
House Owned or Rented: R
Farm or House: H
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Jermiah Higgins 60
Louisa Higgins 31
William Higgins 29
Ann Gagan 51

Yes, thats the family -William the son has the correct birth date, born 30 October 1866 bapt at St Chads 4 November, and Ann Gagan was a border at their house in earlier census returns for Barton upon Irwell. Lancs..

The two children seem to have gone to America earlier and the father joined them when the mother died.

There was Mary Ann Higgins born February 1870, and a Sarah Ann also a the eldest -Catherine (kate) born in c1860 who stayed and married here.

A tree on Ancestry says Jeremiah died in March 1900, and is buried in Cheltenham, Montgomery, Pennsylvania.


Pennsylvania and New Jersey, Church and Town Records, 1708-1985
Name Jeremiah Higgins
Event Type Burial
Death Date abt 1900
Burial Date 30 Mar 1900
Burial Place Cheltenham, Montgomery, Pennsylvania, USA
Denomination Roman Catholic
Organization Name Holy Sepulchre Cemetery
Household Members
Name Age
Jeremiah Higgins

The image shows his address as 2533 (or maybe 2555) Orianna Street.

EDIT:

2555 is what the 1900 census image shows.

In other areas the tree isn't so helpful.
It has partly mixed up some of the details for Louisa and Mary Ann.

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1861
HIGGINS Catherine KEEGAN Saint George Archives+, Manchester Central Library STG/75/10

HIGGINS, SARAH ANN GEOGHAN Order
GRO Reference: 1876 M Quarter in BARTON UPON IRWELL Volume 08C Page 681

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1865
HIGGINS Louisa GEEGAN Saint George Archives+, Manchester Central Library STG/90/42

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1866
HIGGINS William GAGAN Saint George Archives+, Manchester Central Library STG/97/2


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1870
HIGGINS Mary A GAGAN Saint George Archives+, Manchester Central Library STG/113/31

So Ann Gagan in 1900 is probably related.

Baptism: 19 Dec 1875 All Saints, Barton upon Irwell, Lancashire, England
Sara Anna Higgins - [Child] of Jeremiah Higgins & Maria (formerly Geoghan)
Born: 7 Dec 1875
Godparents: John Hill; Margaret Mitchell
Baptised by: Canon John Kershaw
Register: Baptisms 1871 - 1898, Page 117
Source: Private Transcription

Marriages Jun 1860 (>99%)
Higgins Jeremiah Manchester 8d 681
Keegen Mary Manchester 8d 681

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1860
HIGGINS Jeremiah KEEGAN Mary Manchester Register Office or Registrar Attended Archives+, Manchester Central Library MCR_RM/46/148

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
14, St Michaels Place, Manchester, Lancashire, England

Jeremiah Riggins Head Married Male 26 1835 Power Loom Weaver Cotton Ireland Transcription
Mary Riggins Wife Married Female 24 1837 Winder Cotton Ireland Transcription
Catherine Riggins Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Transcription
Patrick Gegan Boarder Widower Male 67 1794 Hand Weaver Cotton Ireland Transcription
Ann Gegan Boarder - Female 14 1847 Cotton Winder Ireland

Also at the address - brother's family, is my guess

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
14, St Michaels Place, Manchester, Lancashire, England

Patrick Higgins Head Married Male 21 1840 Hand Weaver Cotton Ireland Transcription
Mary Higgins Wife Married Female 24 1837 Cotton Winder Ireland Transcription
Jeremiah Higgins Son - Male 2 1859 - Manchester, Lancashire, England


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1859
HIGGINS Jeremiah MANTON Saint George Archives+, Manchester Central Library STG/68/99

A sister for Jeremiah

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1862
HIGGINS Catherine MANTON Saint George Archives+, Manchester Central Library STG/80/75

and her death, I imagine
HIGGINS, CATHERINE 1 Order
GRO Reference: 1863 M Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 119


DEATH
Gegan Patrick — 1864 1864 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Manchester, Lancashire, England

It looks as though Patrick and Mary also emigrated - and had another child named Catherine

Information in the record of Cathe...E Mcr...
from Pennsylvania, Philadelphia City Death Certificates
Name Cathe...E Mcr...
Event Type Death
Event Date 15 Jul 1906
Event Place Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Gender Female
Race white
Age 30
Birth Year (Estimated) 1876
Birth Date 16 Feb 1876
Birthplace Phila
Marital Status Widowed
Father's Name Patrick Higgins
Father's Birthplace Ireland
Mother's Name Mary Manton
Mother's Birthplace Ireland
Occupation housekeeper
Address 2605 Memphis St
Cemetery New Cathedral Cem
Burial Date 19 Jul 1906

Oh, how sad - lost two adult daughters in four months

Information in the record of Maggie Higgins
from Pennsylvania, Philadelphia City Death Certificates
Name Maggie Higgins
Event Type Death
Event Date 20 Mar 1906
Event Place Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Gender Female
Race White
Age 25
Birth Year (Estimated) 1881
Birth Date 03 Sep 1880
Birthplace Phila., Pa.
Marital Status Single
Father's Name Patrick Higgins
Father's Birthplace Ireland
Mother's Name Mary Manton
Mother's Birthplace Ireland
Occupation Hosiery Winder
Residence Place Philadelphia, Pa.
Burial Place Philadelphia, Pa.
Burial Date 24 Mar 1906

Maggie Higgins
United States Census, 1900
Name Maggie Higgins
Event Type Census
Event Year 1900
Event Place Philadelphia city Ward 33, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender Female
Age 20
Marital Status Single
Race White
Race (Original) W
Relationship to Head of Household Boarder
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Boarder
Birth Date Sep 1880
Birthplace Pennsylvania
Father's Birthplace Ireland
Mother's Birthplace Ireland

Philip Mcpeery Head M 34 Kentucky
Kate Mcpeery Wife F 24 Pennsylvania
Philip Mcpeery Son M 7 Pennsylvania
Marie Mcpeery Daughter F 0 Pennsylvania
Maggie Higgins Boarder F 20 Pennsylvania

I think Kate is Catherine (Maggie's sister)