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My paternal grandfather was German
He was born c1880 in Germany and by 1889 the family were in Bradford Yorkshire where the last child was born ,I have the cert which I got in 2004 . Very bad copy as the info was photocopied in and was in a dark background
I always thought the mother was Maria MARTEUS because that how it looked
My grandfather and one brother anglised their names and joined the British army in the 1890,s and both served in the second boar war
The family had moved down to London by 1901 and both men were stationed at the woolwich barracks which is the area my family lived in
Grandfather met and married grandmother in 1902 . He sadly died in June 1911 and the other brother early 1911
Their mum died in 1907 in the German hospital Dalston
Sooo it's been a big fat blank on finding where they came from and what happened to three other brothers and the dad
I replied to a thread on find ancestors board asking about German ancestry giving my experience with finding and not finding info and the poster gave a Facebook group who were about German ancestry
Well in two days I have been given the details of the marriage of the grandparents and their full names plus their German names of all the sons
My grandfather was called Fred on the 1891 census and he married as Frederick
Turns out his name was Josef Louis Fritz Fahse Fritz is also the German for Frederick He was born Hamburg
The mother who called hersel Maria. Was Carolina Maria Katherina MARTENS .
The father was Friedrich Auguste Fahse. He went by the name of Auguste
The brother Carl who anglised his name to Charles was Carl F M Fahse born probably in Juterbog
It does match because looking now at the GRO where you can see mmn it's MARTENS !! For the brother reg 1889
So for 14 years I have been at at standstill and in two days I have the family. They married in the Berlin Area
I even have the next generation back because the marriage names birth fathers
So I am on a roll now to try and trace the brothers. Am betting they may have gone to America
To say I am chuffed is an understatement
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??? A crew member:
August Fähse
in the New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name: August Fähse
Arrival date: 1 May 1924
Birth Date: abt 1875
Age: 49
Ethnicity/ Nationality: German
Port of Departure: Bremen
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Columbus
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could be Argyll
most of the family disappear after 1901
grandfather died 1911 .his brother Charles(carl) died 1911
the mum maria died in 1907 three weeks before my dad was born . at the time she and hubby auguste were living with charles and his family but by 1911 he has gone
i have wondered if they went back to germany or emigrated to america
son August was Hermann Friedrich August Fahse born 12th nov 1875
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Really happy to read one of your brick walls has come down Shirley! I'm posting census details for our info.
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Dodd Street, Limehouse, Stepney, London & Middlesex, England
August Fahse Head Married Male 43 1848 Carpenter Germany
Mary Fahse Wife Married Female 43 1848 - Germany
Carl Fahse Son Single Male 18 1873 Labourer Germany
August Fahse Son - Male 15 1876 Scholar Germany
William Fahse Son - Male 12 1879 Scholar Germany
Fred Fahse Son - Male 10 1881 Scholar Germany
Max Fahse Son - Male 2 1889 - Bradford, Yorkshire, England
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
69, East Street, Charlton and Kidbrooke, Woolwich, London & Kent, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
August Fahse Head Married Male 56 1845 Carpenter Germany
Maria Fahse Wife Married Female 56 1845 - Germany
Max Fahse Son Single Male 18 1883 General Laborer Germany
Albert Fahse Son - Male 12 1889 - Bradford, Yorkshire, England
Otto Engelbreoht Boarder Single Male 27 1874 General Laborer Whitechapel, Middlesex, England
So is it Max, William and August you're looking for? Max in 1891 has changed to Albert in 1901?
FAHSE, GOTTLIEB HARRY ALBERT MARTENS Order
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 164
I assume this is Albert so Max was born 1883 in Germany? Strange about the 1891 census, where was Max if he had mistakenly been named instead of Albert?
Fasey Charles F M 1872 1911 1911 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Woolwich, London, England
On Charles' service records he names his father as Charles Fasey, 69 East Street, Charlton, mother, with husband, brothers Fred, Max, Albert and sister, Martha. His attestation date was 29 May 1895 and he married in 1904.
This is the Charles who died in 1909.
Fasey Charles F J 1908 1909 1909 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Woolwich, London, England
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Your grandfather's service records names his father as Albert and mother as Mary, 69 East Street, Charlton. Older brother, Charles and younger brother, Albert still at home.
Attestation date 07 Dec 1897
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Max's birth:
Heinrich Robert Max Fähse
in the Hamburg, Germany, Births, 1874-1901
Name: Heinrich Robert Max Fähse
Gender: männlich (Male)
Birth Date: 30 Mai 1884 (30 May 1884)
Birth Place: Hamburg, Hamburg, Deutschland (Germany)
Civil Registration Office: Hamburg 01
Father: Friedrich August Fähse
Mother: Caroline Maria Katharina Fähse
Certificate Number: 2290
Reference Number: 332-5_2068
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Yes they did use different names on various records
They were trying to seem more English I think
I do have the census and service records
Father used his second name of August mother used her second name of Maria
August junior was Hermann Friedrich August born 1875
Carl was Carl F M born 1873 and used the name Charles . When he died his widow named him as Charles Frederick Max
William was johann Friedrich Willhelm born 1878
Frederick born 1881 was Josef Louis Fritz
Max on the 1891 and Albert on the 1901 was Gottlieb Harry Albert born 1888 Bradford Yorkshire
The Charles f j who died in 1909 was the son of Charles FM and Martha Hellmuth
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