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I wonder if anyone can help me track down my great grandfather. Robert James Puttee, I know he was born in 1876, in Peckham and the last document that I have of him on is my grandfather, Robert Cecil Puttee's birth certificate, in 1901, after that I can find no trace of him. The family story, was that he left my grandmother and his two sons and emigrated to America, but I can find nothing to substantiate that. Any help pointing me in the right direction would be lovely. Thanks.

Robert James Puttee
England and Wales Marriage Registration Index, 1837-2005

Name:
Robert James Puttee
Event Type:
Marriage
Event Place:
Woolwich, London, England
Registration District:
Woolwich
County:
London
Registration Quarter:
Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year:
1899
Volume:
1D
Page:
2219
Affiliate Line Number:
212
Possible Spouse:
Amy Clifton
Possible Spouse:
Charles James E Lomas
Possible Spouse:
Williamina White

he could have changed his name

born 1877 or born 1876 late reg' camberwell is district for peckham i lived there

Births Mar 1877 (>99%)
Puttee Robert James Camberwell 1d 825

????

Record Transcription:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

65, Arngask Road, Lewisham, London & Kent, England

Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Baker Puttee Head Married Male 53 1848 Ship Brokers Clerk Horsleydown, Surrey, England
Ernest G Puttee Son Single Male 19 1882 Laborer (Woolwich Arsenal) Peckham, Surrey, England
Amy Puttee Daughter-In-Law Married Female 25 1876 Visitor Lewisham, Kent, England xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Harold R Puttee Grand Son Single Male 1 1900 Visitor Plumstead, Kent, England

not finding your grandfather in census 1911

Record Transcription:
England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
General Register Office. Opens in a new window.
First name(s) AMY
Last name PUTTEE
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1908
Registration month -

MarriageFinder ™


AMY PUTTEE married one of these people

David John Jones, Alfred Robert Cast
District Greenwich
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1D
Volume as transcribed 1D
Page number 1061
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, England

amy married david jones

Record Transcription:
1911 Census For England & Wales

39 Clifton Hill New Cross SE, St Paul Deptford, London & Kent, England

Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
David Jones Head Married Male 33 1878 House Painter Islington London
Amy Jones - Married Female 33 1878 - Catford London
Margaret Jones - - Female 2 1909 - Deptford London
Alfred Jones - - Male 0 1911 - Deptford London
Robert Putter Boarder - Male 8 1903 School Chesham Bucks
Reginald Putter Boarder - Male 10 1901 School Woolwich London

?????
Robert J Puttee

in the U.S. Public Records Index, 1950-1993, Volume 2
U.S. Public Records Index, 1950-1993, Volume 2 No Image

Name: Robert J Puttee
Address: 56 Ave NE, Minot, ND, 58702

but it does not give a date

The 1901 census above is correct.

Birth of the grandson Harold:

PUTTEE, HAROLD REGINALD mms CLIFTON
GRO Reference: 1900 M Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 1382

What was address on 1901 Birth Cert.?...

Chris :)

Edits

Baptism for Harold (London, Ancestry) 1900, April 24th, Born 7th January. 16, Charlotte Street, occ. of Robert, Master Stevedore.


Marriages Sep 1919 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------------------
Barrow Maud M W Puttee Lewisham 1d 2830
Puttee Reginald Barrow Lewisham 1d 2830


1939 Register (Find My Past)

Reginald (H) Putter 1900 Lewisham London England 89 Torridon Road

A Public Family Tree states that Robert died in 1908, without any proof ....... seemingly based on the year of Amy's marriage.

It might be worth buying the certificate for Amy's marriage to David Jones to see how she describes her marital status.

EDIT:-

Found the certificate on Ancestry ............. she describes herself as widow. True or not .......... no-one would ask to see proof of that.

Address given for Amy was 11 Batavia Rd, Deptford Lewisham

????????????????

There is no further information as this sheet if badly burnt. No initial(s) given for this man. The only thing I can see is that he was paid £2-0-0 for something!

from FMP ......

British Army Service Records

First name(s) -
Last name Puttee
Service number P15808
Regiment Military Foot Police
Unit / Battalion -
Originating Record WO 363. P/10973 Herbert Donaldson, Military Foot Police
Series WO 363
Series description Wo 363 - First World War Service Records 'Burnt Documents'
Archive
The National Archives
Record set British Army Service Records
Category Armed Forces & Conflict
Subcategory First World War
Collections from Great Britain, UK None

not finding a death for robert in 1908

death of son

Deaths Jun 1967 (>99%)
Puttee Robert C 65 Woolwich 5e 907

I couldn't find a death in 1908, at least not in England and Wales, but nor have I been able to find his name on an outbound passenger list from the UK or on the Ellis Island site.

Did see below, then saw 54, so not him!...

Chris :)

Burial Register summary

Puttee John J
Burial date 31 January 1905
Location Southwark

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch


Deaths Mar 1905 (>99%)
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Putter John James 54 St Olave 1d 189

(seems Putter name being used also)

I also saw a transcription as Pultee.

Thank you everyone for your efforts. The address on my grandfather's birth certificate is interesting, they were living in a public house, The Blue Ball, Asheridge, Charteridge, which is quite rural and my great grandfather's occupation was commercial clerk. I have often wondered what they were doing living there, and why was my great grandmother living with her father in law on the 1901 census? I guess I will never know. Wish I could go back in time ??

Below was Landlord of the Blue Ball...

Chris :)

1901 (Find My Past)
James Cox Head Married Male 44 1857 Licensed Victualler Buckland, Buckinghamshire, England
Mary Sophia Cox Wife Married Female 27 1874 - Lewisham, Kent, England
Alfred Cox Son - Male 7 1894 - Holloway, Middlesex, England
Edith Gladis Cox Daughter - Female 6 1895 - Catford, Kent, England
Harry Cox Son - Male 4 1897 - Limehouse, Middlesex, England
James Candury Cox Son - Male 0 1901 - Bromley, Middlesex, England
Asheridge, Chartridge, Amersham, Buckinghamshire


Birth
COX, EDITH GLADYS CLIFTON
GRO Reference: 1894 D Quarter in LEWISHAM Volume 01D Page 1196


Marriages Jun 1891 (>99%)
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Clifton Mary Sophia Lewisham 1d 1404
Cox James Lewisham 1d 1404


Birth
CLIFTON, MARY SOPHIA ROPER
GRO Reference: 1874 J Quarter in LEWISHAM UNION Volume 01D Page 925


Birth
CLIFTON, AMY ROPER
GRO Reference: 1876 S Quarter in LEWISHAM UNION Volume 01D Page 966