Genealogy Chat

As Betsy isn't with the family above in 1851, one of these (as probably previously suggested) is probably her death:

GREENWOOD, BETSY 0
GRO Reference: 1849 J Quarter in TODMORDEN Volume 21 Page 571

GREENWOOD, BETSY 0
GRO Reference: 1849 S Quarter in TODMORDEN Volume 21 Page 498

GREENWOOD, BETSY 1
GRO Reference: 1849 D Quarter in TODMORDEN Volume 21 Page 514

You said you'd never found her on a census.

Yes that is my family in 1851 with Selina who is my main research.

One of those could be my Betsy as unusually for the area I can't find a burial for 2 of them.

This was the Grace I had in 1841 living Baltimore, Todmorden

Name Age
James Greenwood 25
Mary Greenwood 25
William Greenwood 7
Mary Greenwood 4
Grace Greenwood 1

When I originally looked at this family it was back about 2012 and in my inexperience I assumed Grace was a daughter but of course she may not have been. Baptisms in the family do also seem to be very random and in small batches - in the twins case before an older brother & sister! I have never found one for sister Mary.

Ah! You said Grace was only on the 1851 census - no wonder I couldn't find her!

Ancestry suggests that this is the death of that Grace:

Grace Greenwood
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Grace Greenwood
Registration Year: 1841
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Todmorden
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 21
Page: 496


There are 5 possible Grace Greenwoods born in Todmorden (if she was 1 in 1841 as per census) - none of them with mms Butterworth:

GREENWOOD, GRACE REDMAN
GRO Reference: 1839 M Quarter in TODMORDEN Volume 21 Page 701

GREENWOOD, GRACE WADSWORTH
GRO Reference: 1839 M Quarter in TODMORDEN Volume 21 Page 703

GREENWOOD, GRACE HELLIWELL
GRO Reference: 1839 J Quarter in TODMORDEN Volume 21 Page 762

GREENWOOD, GRACE MARSLAND
GRO Reference: 1839 J Quarter in TODMORDEN Volume 21 Page 754

GREENWOOD, GRACE SUTCLIFFE
GRO Reference: 1840 M Quarter in TODMORDEN Volume 21 Page 741



However, there's another birth -

The birth which Ancestry suggests goes with that death and the 1841 census is this:

Grace Greenwood
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Grace Greenwood
Registration Year: 1839
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Todmorden
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 21
Page: 689

The name is indeed Greenwood on the image.

However, GRO website has it just as Green, with no mms (probably because the name's wrong - so no way of knowing if her mother was Butterworth or not.)

GREEN, GRACE ...
GRO Reference: 1839 D Quarter in TODMORDEN Volume 21 Page 689

sorry - please blame it on dyslexic fingers!

I have a feeling that that Grace was buried in Heptonstall which is at the other end of
Todmorden from where nearly all the rest are buried.

I will jsu have to be satisfied with the data I have on her parents and sister Selina, the direct line of my research.

Just trying to tidy up loose ends which sometimes give a hint for another family as they are so intermingled with common names.